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consumption led growth is always a short-term boost..we have always witnessed high inflation and massive rise in poverty as soon as this honey-moon ends..also if u want to increase liquidity, it should be accompanied with development projects (esp public sector) so that u dont end up distorting the economy--making it consumption oriented..that reminds me what musharraf once said "we have sold xxx air conditions in one year" as if now he is going to provide electricity for them and the bills will go from his pocket!!
 
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as if now he is going to provide electricity for them and the bills will go from his pocket!!

Why the hell do you want Musharraf to provide electricity and pay for it from his own pocket.

Why don't you ask the people you voted for 2 yrs ago???

I am sick and tired of people who just want to vomit nonsense in this thread.

Do you think that global financial institutions are scams and people running them are nuts???

For many yrs, Pakistan's rupee remained in the sixties and Pakistan's credit rating improved; now how is this possible if there was no economic activity in Pakistan??

Why don't you ask CM Punjab, clsoet Taliban jr, to show some good work in Punjab instead of reading selected paragraphs from books and claiming to be an expert on economy and finance.
 
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^^^ PML(N) is only interested in revenge politics and thats all , they have done nothing for the people of punjab for the last two years.
 
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Why the hell do you want Musharraf to provide electricity and pay for it from his own pocket..
bcoz he sold all those things to improve the GDP figure without planning for future..just as he fixed CNG in thousands of cars n now u dont have gas ready for them..

Why don't you ask the people you voted for 2 yrs ago???.
i dint vote for anyone.. i m already fed up of this "musical chair" democracy

I am sick and tired of people who just want to vomit nonsense in this thread..
if u r sick n tired thats ur problem but u better mind ur tone!!


Do you think that global financial institutions are scams and people running them are nuts???.
nay definitely they arent scams n how can ppl running them b nuts the way they squeeze us..remember the fall outs of SAPs..ok not in pakistan but what about latin america n africa..


For many yrs, Pakistan's rupee remained in the sixties and Pakistan's credit rating improved; now how is this possible if there was no economic activity in Pakistan??.
i never said ther was no economic activity..i just said the approach was wrong..it was "unbalanced growth strategy" in which one sector was emphasized n the other ignored n it was "assumed" that the benefits of this growth would trickle down.. did that happen?1960s..18 families controlled more than 80% of pak resources n did that wealth trickle down to the poor..this approach was repeated n i just said its a short term boost.. that is acknowledged by all development economists


Why don't you ask CM Punjab, clsoet Taliban jr, to show some good work in Punjab instead of reading selected paragraphs from books and claiming to be an expert on economy and finance.
Well he is not my personal acquaintance..why dont u call him??:what:
 
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Nothing to be proud of. I hate self serving I'm-apolitical and I-hate-politics bourgeois more than dictators.

its not about being against-politics..when i use my right to vote i atleast should have some satisfaction that the person was worth it..
and i think u mispercieved me..i meant that only 2 parties with same old faces are dominating the political arena..we want some honest n fresh blood.....lets hope we get genuine leadership very soon Inshallah :pakistan:
 
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its not about being against-politics..when i use my right to vote i atleast should have some satisfaction that the person was worth it..
and i think u mispercieved me..i meant that only 2 parties with same old faces are dominating the political arena..we want some honest n fresh blood.....lets hope we get genuine leadership very soon Inshallah :pakistan:

Just waste your vote by stamping twice or thrice. Not voting allows your vote to be misused and stuffed the way the thugs want.
 
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As I posted Dr. Meekal Aziz's remarks on Dr. Ashfaque's opinion on consumption lend fictitious economic growth (which I do not consider to be a fruitful policy), I believe that objectivity requires that it is necessary to post his reply on the criticism.

Economic growth revisited
Tuesday, March 30, 2010
Dr Ashfaque H Khan

This article is written in response to Dr Meekal Aziz Ahmed's comments (March 27) on my article 'On economic growth' (March 23). Dr Ahmed is back again, "defending the indefensible" 'accomplished economists'. Like in the past, Dr Ahmed's comments are full of verbosity, personal attacks and political in tone, but unfortunately lacking substance. My response is limited to the essence of his comments.

The main thesis of my article was that growth in developing countries including Pakistan would necessarily be consumption-led owing to the dominance of private consumption expenditure in GDP. There is, therefore, nothing wrong in consumption-led growth. If people don't consume why should someone produce? The very act of consumption would encourage private sector to produce, invest and hence propel growth.

Dr Ahmed fully agrees with my main thesis and states that "there is nothing wrong with that. It is a welcome manifestation of a growing economy". But hastily he changes his gear and enters into policy arena, particularly in the domain of monetary policy. He finds fault with the policy of the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) regarding cutting the interest rate sharply and flooding the economy with cheap money which, he thinks, is responsible for the surge in private consumption and a source of other economic problems the country faced thereafter.

As the readers would see, Dr Ahmed dissociates himself from my main thesis and enters into a totally different territory. In so doing, he provided me an opportunity to dwell more on the subject and hence clear his misperception.

I had covered the time period from 1999-2000 to 2006-07 in my article. Dr Ahmed would agree that the type of policy to be pursued by the government would depend on the prevailing economic conditions in the country. So, what were the prevailing economic conditions in 1999-2000 and 2000-01?

It is a well-known fact that the economy of Pakistan had reached to an extremely fragile state by the end of the1990s. The economic growth averaged 2.8 per cent per annum, budget deficit and public debt averaged 6 per cent and 82 per cent of GDP, respectively and as such the annual debt servicing was consuming almost two-thirds of total revenues during the period. Inflation on the other hand, averaged 3.8 per cent.

How to revive economic growth under the circumstances was the greatest challenge faced by the then policymakers. The economic growth could have been revived either by pursuing an expansionary fiscal policy or easy monetary policy. The former was not an option because budget deficit was high and the country was facing serious debt crisis. The only option left was to pursue an easy monetary policy to kick-start the economy as inflation was under control (3.8 per cent). Accordingly, the SBP gradually started reducing the discount rate from as high as 14.0 per cent on June 7, 2001 to 7.5 per cent by November 18, 2002 in five periodic interventions. In other words, an easy monetary policy was pursued for a limited period of less than three years (until April 13, 2005) to revive economic growth. During the period of low interest rate the real private consumption expenditure grew at an average rate of 0.8 per cent per annum. While investment-to-GDP ratio remained stagnant at around 16.7 per cent, real GDP growth moved up to 4.7 per cent in 2002-03 owing to the existence of excess capacity in the economy.

The real private consumption expenditure grew by 10.1 per cent and 12.9 per cent in 2003-04 and 2004-05, respectively. In this period, investment rate also started rising sharply and economic growth surged to 7.5 per cent and 9.0 per cent, respectively with inflation moving upward to 9.3 per cent in 2004-05. What happened thereafter? Quite naturally, the SBP started tightening the monetary policy and the discount rate was raised to 9 per cent (an increase of 150 bps) on April 14, 2005 and further by 50 bps each on July 31, 2006 and August 1, 2007.

What was the outcome? The real private consumption growth decelerated to a mere 1.0 per cent in 2005-06 but improved to 4.7 per cent in 2006-07. Investment continued to maintain its upward movement with investment rate rising gradually to a peak of 22.5 per cent in 2006-07. With deceleration in private consumption growth, the real GDP growth also moderated to 5.8 per cent and 6.8 per cent, respectively. Both exports and imports continued to grow at high double-digit rates. Imports grew at a relatively faster pace than exports on account of price effect.

What is the morale of the story? Dr Ahmed agrees with my main thesis that growth in developing countries would necessarily be consumption-led. He then raised the issue of the domain of monetary policy. In answering his questions, I described the prevalent economic conditions during 1999/00-2000/01 and the policy options that were available. Given the prevailing conditions, the pursuance of an easy monetary policy was the only option available. The SBP pursued such a policy for a limited period of less than three years. This policy not only encouraged private sector to come forward but succeeded in reviving economic growth. Once growth accelerated, the SBP started tightening the monetary policy to check inflationary pressure. Both consumption and economic growth returned to moderation but investment continued to rise to meet the growing demand for goods and services.

Dr Ahmed may disagree on the degree of tightening of monetary policy but I am sure he would agree with the choice of instrument and the direction of policy. What happened in 2007-08 requires another article and I promise that I would write on the subject as I am the eye-witness. Suffice it to say that unprecedented surge in food and fuel prices, deterioration in security environment, and run-up to the election resulting in policy paralysis are the root causes of macroeconomic difficulties in 2007-08.

The writer is director general and dean at NUST Business School, Islamabad.
 
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Imran Khan's challenge is still on, he n mush in any area of Pakistan, he doesn't have the guts to come back..... Traitor!!!!
 
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And again in the interest of objectivity, I bring to you Dr. Meekal Aziz's reply to Dr. Ashfaque Ahmed's opinion about consumption led economic growth that was championed by him as Special Secretary, Ministry of Finance and DG Debt Office, Ministry of Finance

Boom, bubbles, bust
Thursday, April 01, 2010

Since Dr Ashfaque Hasan Khan says I am verbose (March 30), I will try to be brief. I have no problem with maintaining a tight fiscal stance while allowing monetary policy the flexibility to guide the economy. What I do object to is a forced regime of negative interest rates. It is bad policy as first-year economics teaches and will get you into trouble. As interest rates were cut, inflation started to accelerate once economic slack was taken up. When interest rates were later raised to cool the economy, inflation had reached almost unstoppable dimensions. Throughout the period it would seem that interest rates were negative after adjusting for inflation. That creates a boom, bubbles and bust. The world has learnt this lesson, but not Dr Khan, the ever-loyal spokesperson for the decamped duo.

Dr Khan has known me for 35 years. I served Ayub Khan, Yahya Khan, Z A Bhutto, Zia, Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif and never wavered in my loyalty to the government of the day as a completely non-political civil servant.

Meekal A Ahmed
 
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Imran Khan's challenge is still on, he n mush in any area of Pakistan, he doesn't have the guts to come back..... Traitor!!!!

hahah ... what a joke? IK can't even win in Pindi ... I am sure you are a patriotic deendar Pakistani because everyone else is either a traitor or a kaafir.

Gen. Musharraf fought at the borders in multiple occasions, now how many wars did IK fought for Pakistan?? Tell IK to grow up and act mature.
 
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hahah ... what a joke? IK can't even win in Pindi ... I am sure you are a patriotic deendar Pakistani because everyone else is either a traitor or a kaafir.

Gen. Musharraf fought at the borders in multiple occasions, now how many wars did IK fought for Pakistan?? Tell IK to grow up and act mature.

Keep in mind that he (Musharaf) also lost couple of times.
 
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hahah ... what a joke? IK can't even win in Pindi ... I am sure you are a patriotic deendar Pakistani because everyone else is either a traitor or a kaafir.

Gen. Musharraf fought at the borders in multiple occasions, now how many wars did IK fought for Pakistan?? Tell IK to grow up and act mature.
kindly read what i wrote, just mush vs imran.... even JI can beat mush anywhere in pakistan

so fighting war makes u more patriot? my father was in army, he fought wars but i cant say that he is more patriotic than a shop keeper down the street... everyone has his role to play in society bro!!!
 
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