Mumtaz Qadri's shrine: In memory of Salmaan Taseer’s assassin

[Sawaar]

Absolutely no proof of your version of events.
Most likely a lie just like that two bit moulvi made during his funeral about Qadri opening his eyes and rising up and talking to him when he being taken to his grave.
A lie made to justify a murder.....Just be brave and own up to what your man did, why invent lies???

The thread is about opening a shrine for someone who in your own words did the deed because he was in RAGE.


And here you are for the past couple of posts justifying it.

Is this what we have become??

Don't you remember Hazrat Ali (R.A)'s example???

Tomorrow if every other Tom, Dick and Harry start chopping off people in a heat of moment....should we build shrines for them???

Those people whom hearts sealed by Allah for following shaitan as their mesiah they can't accept the truth they will not listen any thing truthful and will leave the world as ignorant heretics.

 

[Tamilnadu]

A big example is your P.M Modi and Israel.

Whats wrong with our PM,did he ask for D.A.D.....i never saw or read him calling for one,if you have provide the source.

 

[Winchester]

Those people whom hearts sealed by Allah for following shaitan as their mesiah they can't accept the truth they will not listen any thing truthful and will leave the world as ignorant heretics.

Indeed.

 

[Sawaar]

Whats wrong with our PM,did he ask for D.A.D.....i never saw or read him calling for one,if you have provide the source.

To fresh your memories "He was responsible for the killings of nearly 2500 innocent Muslims.

 

[Hyde]

The honorable Governor not killed because of his non-Halal dietary habits

Then why do you malign his personal life? Simply because you have insufficient evidence? If he was not killed for the above mentioned reasons then better his followers not use the same argument again n again.

but a person named Qadri killed him in a fit of rage when he (Governor) replied him (Qadri) that blasphemy law is worse than human feces.

So its got nothing to do with his public statements? He said to him on his face? and what authority did it have to kill somebody? Was he declared murtid by any scholar who had authority to do so? No right?

In that case its simply a murder based on his personal vendetta / be it foolishness, stupidity or whatever you wanna call it. When the murderer is arrested he often claims that he didn't kill.. But in his case he had surrendered, so how do we even know that if he is saying truth or not? Who knows if he had to pay debt to him? just speculating... There would have an authority to investigate that matter right?

If yes then no evidence was found against Salman Taseer's blasphemy then why do people praise an assassin?

For your info all Gulf and most of the Muslims countries have similar laws even stricter then why only Pakistan is being criticize?

The problem is, he said The blasphemy law in Pakistan is "kala qanoon". People took his statement out of context and idiots like Qadri went ahead to kill him. When he said Kala Qanoon he used to give various examples and two of such examples have been given by me in the previous post. He claimed that people are making a political issue into religious issue, he is only talking about the law made by Zia Ul Haq's government and certain provisions need to be reviewed, we have got video evidences available on YouTube where he claims that he is not against the blasphemy law but how its implemented under the constitution and further goes on to give an example that out of thousands of people convinced under blasphemy law, 90% or so are killed inside the prison whilst their cases are pending in the court and went to reveal his idea that an ordinary officer should not be allowed to register a case against Blasphemy law and an SSP ranked officer should investigate the matter, if convinced only then register a case. Also the person who accused should also be clearly named in the FIR so the trend of fake cases should be discouraged...

It was all about politics but people turned into Religion simply because they heard him calling it "Kaala Qanoon". It is beyond my wisdom why people ignore his whole statement and just take 2 words out of context. It is like if I say arrest him, you will run away to arrest 4 billion men in the world as I just said arrest him and wouldn't spare a minute to ask whom to arrest or whom am I pointing my finger at.

I am out as there was a lot of weight to this discussion when the incident took place and the pro-Qadri scholars were heavily embarrased on the TV when they couldn't give any proof of allegations but there are many videos of him on YouTube with examples of how the law was abused and needs to be reviewed.

 

[Zarvan]

Then why do you malign his personal life? Simply because you have insufficient evidence? If he was not killed for the above mentioned reasons then better his followers not use the same argument again n again.


So its got nothing to do with his public statements? He said to him on his face? and what authority did it have to kill somebody? Was he declared murtid by any scholar who had authority to do so? No right?

In that case its simply a murder based on his personal vendetta / be it foolishness, stupidity or whatever you wanna call it. When the murderer is arrested he often claims that he didn't kill.. But in his case he had surrendered, so how do we even know that if he is saying truth or not? Who knows if he had to pay debt to him? just speculating... There would have an authority to investigate that matter right?

If yes then no evidence was found against Salman Taseer's blasphemy then why do people praise an assassin?

The problem is, he said The blasphemy law in Pakistan is "kala qanoon". People took his statement out of context and idiots like Qadri went ahead to kill him. When he said Kala Qanoon he used to give various examples and two of such examples have been given by me in the previous post. He claimed that people are making a political issue into religious issue, he is only talking about the law made by Zia Ul Haq's government and certain provisions need to be reviewed, we have got video evidences available on YouTube where he claims that he is not against the blasphemy law but how its implemented under the constitution and further goes on to give an example that out of thousands of people convinced under blasphemy law, 90% or so are killed inside the prison whilst their cases are pending in the court and went to reveal his idea that an ordinary officer should not be allowed to register a case against Blasphemy law and an SSP ranked officer should investigate the matter, if convinced only then register a case. Also the person who accused should also be clearly named in the FIR so the trend of fake cases should be discouraged...

It was all about politics but people turned into Religion simply because they heard him calling it "Kaala Qanoon". It is beyond my wisdom why people ignore his whole statement and just take 2 words out of context. It is like if I say arrest him, you will run away to arrest 4 billion men in the world as I just said arrest him and wouldn't spare a minute to ask whom to arrest or whom am I pointing my finger at.

I am out as there was a lot of weight to this discussion when the incident took place and the pro-Qadri scholars were heavily embarrased on the TV when they couldn't give any proof of allegations but there are many videos of him on YouTube with examples of how the law was abused and needs to be reviewed.

The women he was supporting was a convicted Blasphemer. Secondly yes he and his daughters are known for partying and other crap they do even he didn't denied. I know some people personally who have attended several of his parties. But if would have been removed from his post from day one things wouldn't have reached that point. He was not only kept on that position but PPP people like Aitzaz Ahsan kept poking people by lines such as Governor has immunity. As for scholars every major scholar asked Government to remove this guy from his post but no one heard them including the Usmani brothers and other various scholars.

 

[Sawaar]

Then why do you malign his personal life? Simply because you have insufficient evidence? If he was not killed for the above mentioned reasons then better his followers not use the same argument again n again.


So its got nothing to do with his public statements? He said to him on his face? and what authority did it have to kill somebody? Was he declared murtid by any scholar who had authority to do so? No right?

In that case its simply a murder based on his personal vendetta / be it foolishness, stupidity or whatever you wanna call it. When the murderer is arrested he often claims that he didn't kill.. But in his case he had surrendered, so how do we even know that if he is saying truth or not? Who knows if he had to pay debt to him? just speculating... There would have an authority to investigate that matter right?

If yes then no evidence was found against Salman Taseer's blasphemy then why do people praise an assassin?

The problem is, he said The blasphemy law in Pakistan is "kala qanoon". People took his statement out of context and idiots like Qadri went ahead to kill him. When he said Kala Qanoon he used to give various examples and two of such examples have been given by me in the previous post. He claimed that people are making a political issue into religious issue, he is only talking about the law made by Zia Ul Haq's government and certain provisions need to be reviewed, we have got video evidences available on YouTube where he claims that he is not against the blasphemy law but how its implemented under the constitution and further goes on to give an example that out of thousands of people convinced under blasphemy law, 90% or so are killed inside the prison whilst their cases are pending in the court and went to reveal his idea that an ordinary officer should not be allowed to register a case against Blasphemy law and an SSP ranked officer should investigate the matter, if convinced only then register a case. Also the person who accused should also be clearly named in the FIR so the trend of fake cases should be discouraged...

It was all about politics but people turned into Religion simply because they heard him calling it "Kaala Qanoon". It is beyond my wisdom why people ignore his whole statement and just take 2 words out of context. It is like if I say arrest him, you will run away to arrest 4 billion men in the world as I just said arrest him and wouldn't spare a minute to ask whom to arrest or whom am I pointing my finger at.

I am out as there was a lot of weight to this discussion when the incident took place and the pro-Qadri scholars were heavily embarrased on the TV when they couldn't give any proof of allegations but there are many videos of him on YouTube with examples of how the law was abused and needs to be reviewed.

First of all thanks for the lengthy reply and I acknowledge your seriousness on this matter but brother there are some reasons and causes which led to the person to make spontaneous reaction in a fit of rage.
You know the term coldblooded murder (A planed murder in US they call 3rd degree) and a spontaneous action led to the death of other person both have different punishments.
I hope you got my point and no body knows who is at fault from my side if Governor make such comments even I would kill that man but since can't prove what he said so leave it only Allah knows whatever happen between the two both departed and Allah knows the best. I just want that don't become a judge of Akhira since you are not by declaring his Akhira status of being jahanumi.

 

[Jungibaaz]

The guy was a murderer and he got what he deserved for breaking the law to its fullest. No sympathy from me.

 

[Hyde]

only Allah knows whatever happen between the two both departed and Allah knows the best. I just want that don't become a judge of Akhira since you are not by declaring his Akhira status of being jahanumi.

Exactly,

I don't want people to judge the destiny of Taseer either. It is the matter between him and Allah. The last thing I would like to say is, somewhere in your heart you will agree that we people have made joke out of shrines. If we will make shrines for all the pity reasons in the world, we are maligning the image of good people of Allah and in my opinion commercialising the business of Shrine.

 

[Sawaar]

somewhere in your heart you will agree that we people have made joke out of shrines.

Shrine I believe not allowed in Islam.
Agreed.

 

[BATMAN]

In the last decade Muslims have killed more Muslims than the Christians, Hindus and 'evil' Jews could ever dream of...

On all those places where Muslims are killed, we have seen US occupation, followed by Iran Revolution Guards and their brain washed pedllars.
Northern Allaince filled pashtoon youth in locked containers and shot from outside, while Indian doctors collected body organs.
Mulla Saddar lead death brigades in Iraq and Now Qasim Sulemani is leading gang of rapists and baby killers.
So it's clear what kind of Muslims are killingwhat kind of Muslims, state by state, one by one and who were partners in crime.

in my opinion commercialising the business of Shrine.

Nothing new.. it has been going on from decades.

 

[LfcRed]

Unfortunately Pakistan has become a powerhouse of shrines and it is one of the major causes of innovations and shirk. It is no surprise that killers like MQ are idolized in Pakistan where many (not all) ignorant muslims follow a flawed version of Islam.

Secondly Salman Taseer was no saint but saying what he said in Pakistan always was going to backfire. No Muslim or Non muslim has the right to be the judge or executioner and take the law in his hand. It is HARAAM in Islam. It is only the right/responsibility/duty of the government to impose any punishment. Any such cases are considered as a murder and the murderer should get the Hadd punishment if not pardoned by the victim's family. MQ got what he deserved and according to the religion when the Hadd punishment is established the person has paid for his sin in this world. His other deeds will be judged and no one can judge whether he would be in jannah or not.

 

[Russell]

On all those places where Muslims are killed, we have seen US occupation, followed by Iran Revolution Guards and their brain washed pedllars.
Northern Allaince filled pashtoon youth in locked containers and shot from outside, while Indian doctors collected body organs.
Mulla Saddar lead death brigades in Iraq and Now Qasim Sulemani is leading gang of rapists and baby killers.
So it's clear what kind of Muslims are killingwhat kind of Muslims, state by state, one by one and who were partners in crime

I'm not getting into this anti Shia rhetoric...I guarantee Shia members on this forum can also point out a million examples of Sunni extremists.

One off hand example is the killing of close to 1700 Shia recruits.

AQ and ISIS weren't brainwashed by Iran or the IRG.

To put it simply, I don't care who the 'invisible' hand was...when suicide bombers walk into mosques and blow up ppl on a Friday - they are Muslims killing other Muslims.

 

[BATMAN]

I'm not getting into this anti Shia rhetoric...I guarantee Shia members on this forum can also point out a million examples of Sunni extremists.

One off hand example is the killing of close to 1700 Shia recruits.

AQ and ISIS weren't brainwashed by Iran or the IRG.

To put it simply, I don't care who the 'invisible' hand was...when suicide bombers walk into mosques and blow up ppl on a Friday - they are Muslims killing other Muslims.

If you don't care than don't make statements about Islam and Muslims, just confine your self to Indian rapes, and cow piss threads.
Now i wonder if i reply to your falsification or not?

 

[Chauvinist]

Jaahliat ki agar koi had hai to wo ayse Pakistani Ilhaaj pay khatam ho jati hai a k..

Qadri tere janisaar beshumar beshumar...

Sab ko saath le ke jatay... akele hi chalay gaye...

He was just an idiot/fool who murdered somebody in his sheer ignorance. I would't even want to comment on his supporters...

Zaki do something like this.. Kill Zardari or Gnja .. Your name which is of two words will become long to 7 words...
Direct ticket to Jannat..