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how about crap like this:

Prime Minister's Office

by your war lover PM

I would also be happy to know the real meaning of what does the word "cost" mean. another war with Pakistan? or maybe India is asking to have some DF-15 field tests on its land?

You really need to understand politics, do not ignore if's and buts, you need to ponder over history of India and neighbors.

Indian PM's address to nation.

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2008/11/27/arena.india.terrorist.cnn
 
Typically Indian - Ignore your home-grown terrorists and just pretend that they do not exist.

Typically Indian - Blame everything on 'external' hands! Call all terrorists within 'foreigners' in order to pass the blame.

Typically Indian - Shout 'Jai Hind', 'Incredible India' etc etc and live in a self-induced hypnotic illusion that all is well in the Bharat Mata!

Typically Indian - Forget it after a few days of hoopla!

Sorry but I do not buy what Manmohan Singh has said about the element for foreign elements involved in this sad incident. This is an INDIAN HOME-GROWN problem and not something cooked elsewhere in the neighborhood to which the Indian PM has refered so fluently and by force of habit!

Condolences on the loss of life, where ever it may be!

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2008/11/27/arena.india.terrorist.cnn

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Exclusive: LeT terrorist Ismail arrested in Mumbai
LeT terrorist Ismail arrested in Mumbai

smail alias Zakiruallah, a Punjabi from Faridkot in Pakistan who was arrested by the Mumbai police on Wednesday night during the terror attacks, is giving interrogators the complete story of how the sensational terror operation was planned and executed.


He has told the Mumbai police that he has been trained by the Lashkar e Tayiba, said police sources while giving chilling details of the most daring terror attack in India that has so far killed 101 people -- and the horror story is not over, yet.


rediff.com, with help of political and governmental sources in New Delhi [Images] and Mumbai, including from intelligence, has pieced together the government's thinking on the matter.

First and foremost, Indian intelligence is more or less conceding that the shocking attacks in Mumbai represent a major success for the Lashkar.


Second, the operation is not solely directed against foreign nationals in Mumbai, as some reports have claimed. The large number of deaths of Mumbaikars suggests that they have fired indiscriminately, and revenge was on their mind.


The terrorist arrested by the Mumbai police is vehemently opposed to Isreal's action in the Middle-East and is upset about the "treatment" of Muslims in India in general According to sources, the ethnic, Punjabi-speaking Ismail has told the Mumbai police that the issue of "injustice" to Muslims in India by Hindus and the Indian establishment inspired him to pick up arms.

So far, one Greek, one German couple, two American intelligence officials, and a French man are dead, it is confirmed.


Intelligence sources also claimed to redif.com that it is likely that the Pakistani national terrorist wanted to remind Indians that their hotels can also face a similar fate as Hotel Marriott, Islamabad [Images]. In a terror attack in September, a suicide bomber rammed his truck into the Marriott, killing more than 60 people.


It is clear from the selection of the spots attacked that the terrorists wanted to show India in as bad a light as Pakistan. The entire show was to prove that India is facing no less of anarchy than its western neighbour. The Indian system is making its people feel as insecure as Pakistanis feel due to their weak systems, was the message the masterminds of the terror attack wanted to convey.

The high-level sources also say that Al Qaeda's [Images] ideology has been imbibed by innumerable small and regional outfits, but only the LeT can manage a Mumbai kind of operation, so there are more chances of the LeT's hand and brain being behind this operation.


As it has happened many times before, according to sources in the home ministry, in the third week of September India had received information from American sources that there could be a large-scale operation within India by the Lashkar e Tayiba. A source in the home ministry also claimed that the Research and Analysis Wing had passed on this information to the Intelligence Bureau and in turn they had sent this information to the Maharashtra police.


Again, some six days later, the information was circulated from New Delhi to Mumbai police that hotels in Mumbai will be targeted by the Lashkar. The police source claims that the name of Taj Mahal Hotel [Images] was specifically mentioned. Accordingly, the hotel's security had been increased but in two months time that have fallen into a routine, it seems.


Also, on the basis of vague information the local police has no time to build up the entire case of a possible terror act, says the same source. Since information like this is vague, the police now claims that it is very difficult to act upon it.


A senior officer of the ministry told rediff.com that one of the top Lashkar operatives, Yousuf Muzamil, has most probably directed the entire terror attack. The Lashkar has changed its name to Jamaat ud Dawa and is headed by Hafeez Mohammed Saeed and is headquartered in Muzaffarabad, Pakistan Occupied Kashmir.

According to information collected by the police, on Wednesday evening, around 10 Pakistanis came by speed boats to the coast near Colaba in South Mumbai from Karachi. From fishing trawls they shifted to dinghies to reach Mumbai, and the transfer took place somewhere near Gujarat. Alert and smart fisherfolk could notice that some unknown characters in casual clothes had alighted. They were surprised to see unknown faces and the unusually large bags they were carrying.


Immediately they drew the attention of the local policemen from the nearby police post at Budhwar Park, Colaba. Within two hours of the fishermen's complaint to the police the terrorists had struck at Taj Mahal Hotel and at Trident hotel, Nariman House owned by Jews, and in Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus [Images] and a few other places. It was a meticulous and well-planned operation which has given the perpetrators of the horrific act a tremendous boost.


While in Trident hotel between four and seven terrorists were involved, while in Taj Mahal hotel three to four terrorists created havoc. According to Ismail, there no Arabs in their group.


The Mumbai police has got information that some six-seven days back terrorists had made a dry run also. This act leads to them believe that some local people could be involved in the terror attack, too.


At this point in time the police believes that at least one terrorists has managed to escape.

You guys even faked attacks or ID's... You guys come up with an Atlantique being dangerous above the Pakistani swamp. You guys keep our soldiers in jail and either torture or slit their tongue... I hardly believe our statements oand frankly I have some doubts in the intellectual capcity of these journalists... If you torture a person long enough he will say that he was born as a chicken but now is mother cow...
 
is upset about the "treatment" of Muslims in India in general According to sources, the ethnic, Punjabi-speaking Ismail has told the Mumbai police that the issue of "injustice" to Muslims in India by Hindus and the Indian establishment inspired him to pick up arms.

source here

see, everything is now against your policies.

:coffee:
 
This is a clear attack by terrorist......not militants,insurgents,freedom fighters.
The indian govt should shoot the whole bunch of bast*rtds and send therm to hell.

My only concern is the quickness in which the indians started blaming pakistan....no proof no evidence...nothing.

I am pretty sure this attack involves indian army/RAW......they planned it and carried it out to take the media light off the indian army bombing the train ect.
 
These arrested Terrorists should be hanged infront of India Gate.
 
Chopra: Attack prompts tough questions Story Highlights

"This is a global problem," author Deepak Chopra says

Barack Obama must use chance to get Muslims' help, he says

Officials must not go after the wrong people, Chopra says

(CNN) -- The Indian city of Mumbai exploded into chaos early Thursday morning as gunmen launched a series of attacks across the country's commercial capital, killing scores of people and taking hostages in two luxury hotels frequented by Westerners.


Deepak Chopra says extremists could be reacting to Barack Obama's gestures toward Muslims.

CNN's Larry King spoke with author Deepak Chopra about the situation.

Larry King: Let's go to Dr. Deepak Chopra, the physician, philosopher. His new book is "Jesus: A Story of Enlightenment."

Where were you born in India, Deepak?

Deepak Chopra: I was born in Delhi, but I have been in these hotels many, many times. I have stayed there, so I know the scene; I know the restaurants. I have been trying to get in touch with my friends and relatives, some of whom I have spoken to, some of whom I can't speak to. The lines are jammed. We're texting each other.

A friend of mine from Egypt was in the restaurant at the Taj hotel when the firing started, and somehow she managed to avoid the fray, hid in a basement and is now holed up in a room which is right next to the Taj hotel and is waiting to be told what to do.

The situation is complex, Larry, because it could inflame to proportions that we cannot even imagine. It has to be contained. We now recognize that this is a global problem, with only a global effort can solve this.

And you know, one of the things that I think is happening is that these militant terrorist groups are actually terrified that [President-elect Barack] Obama's gestures to the rest of the Muslim world may actually overturn the tables on them by alienating them from the rest of the Muslim world, so they're reacting to this.

You know, this is Obama's opportunity to actually harness the help of the Muslims.

You know, there's 1.8 billion Muslims in the world. That's 25 percent of the population of the world. It's the fastest-growing religion in the world. We cannot, if we do not appease and actually recruit the help of this Muslim world, we're going to have a problem on our hands.

And we cannot go after the wrong people, as we did after 9/11, because then the whole collateral damage that occurs actually aggravates the situation.

In India, this is particularly inflammatory, because there's a rise of Hindu fundamentalism. We saw what that did in Gujarat, where, you know, Muslims were scorched and they were killed, and there was almost a genocide of the Muslims.

India has 150 million Muslims. That's more Muslims in India than in Pakistan. So this is an opportunity right now for India and Pakistan to recognize this is their common problem. It's not a Muslim problem right now; it's a global problem.

King: Do you think that this is just the beginning, that there's a potential impact, or more?

Chopra: There is a potential impact of a lot more carnage. But it can be contained. And right now, one of the questions, you know, after I heard Barbara Starr talking about how coordinated this is, that there are militant groups that cross international boundaries, is who is financing this? Where is the money coming from? We have to ask very serious, honest questions. What role do we have in this? Are our petrodollars funding both sides of this war on terrorism? Why are we not asking the Saudis where that money is going that we give them? Is it going through this supply chain to Pakistan?

It's not enough for Pakistan to condemn it. Pakistan should cooperate with India in uprooting this. They should be part of the surgery that is going to happen.

It's not enough for Indians to blame Pakistanis. Indians should actually ask the Pakistanis to help them.

And it's not enough for us to worry about Westerners being killed and Americans being killed. Every life is precious over there. We have got to get rid of this idea that this is an American problem or a Western problem. It's a global problem, and we need a global solution, and we need the help of all the Muslims, 25 percent of the world's population, to help us uproot this problem.

King: What does India immediately do?

Chopra: India at this moment has to contain any reactive violence from the fundamentalist Hindus, which is very likely and possible. So India has to condemn that by not blaming local Muslims. They have to identify the exact groups.

And the world has to be very careful that they don't go after the wrong people. Because if you go after the wrong people, you convert moderates into extremists. It happens every time, and retribution against innocent people just because they have the same religion actually aggravates and perpetuates the problem.

King: Are you pessimistic?

Chopra: I think Mr. Obama has a real opportunity here, but a challenging opportunity, a creative opportunity.

Get rid of the phrase "war on terrorism." Ask for a creative solution in which we all participate.

King: Is it because the war on terrorism really can never be won because the terrorists (inaudible)?

Chopra: Because it's an oxymoron. It's an oxymoron, Larry, a war on war, a war on terrorism.

You know, terrorists call mechanized death from 35,000 feet above sea level with a press of a button also terror. We don't call it that, because our soldiers are wearing uniforms. They don't see what is happening, and innocent people are being killed. So, you know, terror is a term that you apply to the other.

King: Thanks, Deepak Chopra, as always, extraordinarily enlightening.
 
You guys even faked attacks or ID's... You guys come up with an Atlantique being dangerous above the Pakistani swamp. You guys keep our soldiers in jail and either torture or slit their tongue... I hardly believe our statements oand frankly I have some doubts in the intellectual capcity of these journalists... If you torture a person long enough he will say that he was born as a chicken but now is mother cow...

What do you want to believe attacks never happened ?
News of terrorist arrested has been out since early morning If you read my earlier post investigation agencies will surely grill him but he may not be the mastermind behind the attacks.
 
Terrorist are cowards period. The only shoot and kill innocent and unarmed people including women and kids.

agreed , but they cant be potrayed only muslims, muslims doesnt kill "INDRA GHANDHI", "RAJEEV GHANDHI" WHO DID IT? i guss everybody knows?:eek:
 
Here is my gut feeling about this episode (don't ask me for evidence because I am saying upfront that it is a gut feel):

I think the Pakistani establishment would have been smart enough not to attack the Jewish Chabad center. So I don't think that this operation was officially approved (unlike the 1993 bombings by Tiger Memon and Dawood, which probably had the bessings of the establishment).

However, I also think it very likely that the arming, training, financing was done by organizations like the LeT, although some of the foot-soldiers may have been Indian recruits. (For those who deny that this happens I will remind them of the Ishrat Jehan case of 2004.)

Yet the Pakistani establishment is certainly not blameless because these Jihadi organizations are supported at least partly by the establishment.
 
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