Mullah Omar Is Dead
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He has been killed at least 1000 times in last 14 years so grow upDenial is just one of the stages of acceptance
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Well pakistan all along used to keep taliban intact by citing mullah omar, but now they are confirm the information that he is dead. Why now? Answer is quite simple
1) Gain trust of afghans.
2) Daesh is already in afghanistan, as such most of the taliban splinter groups will be merged with daesh. So enemies inimical to afghanistan will still play the old game of destabilizing them. Only this time no finger pointing.
3) Daesh can also be used against india rt?
1) Gain trust of afghans.
2) Daesh is already in afghanistan, as such most of the taliban splinter groups will be merged with daesh. So enemies inimical to afghanistan will still play the old game of destabilizing them. Only this time no finger pointing.
3) Daesh can also be used against india rt?
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Yes, that's what I read that he died of TB.Taliban leader Mullah Omar died in a Karachi hospital: Afghan intelligence - The Express Tribune
Supreme leader of the Afghan Taliban Mullah Omar died suffering from tuberculosis two years ago in a Karachi hospital, Afghanistan’s top intelligence agency, the National Directorate of Security (NDS) confirmed on Wednesday.
“The Afghan government has received confirmed reports that Mullah Omar died nearly two years ago in Karachi,” NDS spokesperson Abdul Haseeb Siddiqui told BBC Pushto. “We are happy that now the foreign sources have also confirmed that Mullah Omar is no more alive.”
“We still have a lot of questions how Mullah Omar died,” he said, adding that, “We have been told that the Taliban leader died owing to an illness.”
The deputy spokesperson for the Afghan President also confirmed that Mullah Omar had died in 2013.
“The government of Afghanistan believes that grounds for the Afghan peace talks are more paved now than before, and thus calls on all armed opposition groups to seize the opportunity and join the peace process,” the statement added.
Earlier, a former Afghan Taliban minister and member of the central leadership council had revealed to The Express Tribune that Mullah Omar had died owing to Tuberculosis, however, he had not disclose the location of his death.
“Mullah Omar died two years and four months ago owing to Tuberculosis. He has been buried on Afghan side of the border,” the former minister had said on the condition of anonymity.
Further, he added, “Mullah Omar’s son had identified the body of his father.”
Meanwhile, some Afghan government officials told the media in Kabul that the Pakistani government has also conveyed to them that Mullah Omar has died.
The Taliban have not yet commented on reports of Mullah Omar’s death, however, they are mulling a formal response to be release later today.
Mullah Omar’s successor
The disclosure came as reports of the Afghan Taliban chief’s death sprung up yet again when the Afghan Taliban summoned a meeting on Wednesday to elect a new chief after some leaders of the militant group confirmed Mullah Omar’s death.
The former minister also disclosed that he was invited to attend the meeting.
Taliban sources told The Express Tribune that consultations for a new leader are under way and a successor will be announced before the next round of peace talks scheduled to be held in Pakistan on July 31.
It is widely speculated that Mullah Baradar Akhund will succeed Mullah Omar as the supreme leader of the Afghan Taliban.
Mullah Omar had appointed Mullah Baradar and Mullah Ubaidullah Akhund as deputy leaders while he was alive.
Mullah Ubaidullah died in a jail in Pakistan, according to the Taliban which leaves Mullah Baradar next in line.
Mullah Baradar was reportedly released by Pakistan along with some other Taliban leaders in 2013; however, some Taliban leaders still insist he has not been allowed to rejoin his family.
Some Taliban leaders told The Express Tribune that Mullah Baradar enjoys the support of Sayed Tayyab Agha, the head of the Afghan Taliban’s political office in Qatar.
Tayyab Agha himself was a close confidante of Mullah Omar. Further, sources say that Mullah Yaqub, the son of Mullah Omar, is also in favour of Mullah Baradar succeeding his father.
Other Taliban sources say that the incumbent Taliban acting chief Mullah Akhtar Mansoor, a former aviation minister, is also among the few aspiring for this position. However, sources added that Mansoor’s position in the Taliban has been widely damaged for spreading news of Mullah Omar’s death.
Another choice for Mullah Omar’s successor could be Mullah Yaqub, his son. Yaqub recently graduated from a religious school in Karachi. However, several Taliban leaders are of the view that Yaqub is too young and may be ‘unsuitable’ for the post. A Taliban leader told The Express Tribune that Mullah Omar never wished for someone from his family to succeed him.
Mullah Omar’s brother Mullah Abdul Manan has also been actively involved in Taliban affairs in recent years.
An Afghan government official said that a press conference had been called on the subject of Taliban leader Mullah Omar, amid rumours of his death.
The official, who declined to be named because he was not authorised to give statements to the press, did not provide further details.
Further, the Afghan government is investigating reports of the death of Taliban supremo Mullah Omar, a presidential spokesman said.
The announcement from spokesperson Sayed Zafar Hashemi came after unnamed government and militant sources told media that the one-eyed leader died two or three years ago.
“We have seen reports in the media regarding the death of Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Omar,” Hashemi told a press conference.
“We are investigating these reports… and will comment once the accuracy of these reports are confirmed.”
The elusive leader of the militant group, which ruled Afghanistan in the late 1990s until it was toppled by a US-led offensive in 2001, has not been seen in public for years, leading to speculation he has been dead for some time.
The Taliban has been fighting an insurgency against the Western-backed government in Kabul since its ouster, killing thousands of civilians and security personnel and making significant territorial gains in recent months.
Tentative peace talks have begun aimed at ending the war, with the Taliban split between those who support dialogue and others who want to continue to fight for power.
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I don't think I posted such article......besides, ISI works with the US intelligence community very closely. After that drama on OBL, I doubt that there could be secrets kept out of the US teams as such a situation would really damage relationships between the two countries IMO. So not sure who posted that article.
Plus, I think on the current developments, you have to wait for the US to confirm through various means. Afghan intelligence is as credible as my ex-girlfriend talking hate on people she didn't like
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Hmm, got you confused then.
Plus, I think on the current developments, you have to wait for the US to confirm through various means. Afghan intelligence is as credible as my ex-girlfriend hating about people she didn't like
Haha, well said!
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no, not changing my story at all, re-read my posts here and in the original thread from some days ago (which is why I tagged you here)
my point is that news of another most wanted guy surfaces, and it turns out he was in Pakistan as well.. just like bin laden was, and just as they'd been saying and everyone'd been thinking all this while.
but in all seriousness,
IMO the events of the past few years may have made it so for the ISI that getting rid of him was the expedient thing to do.
what are your thoughts, another "conspiracy" like the bin laden raid or RAW at work trying to somehow sabotage the AF-Pak-taliban dialogue maybe ?
also, considering that you are at war with the TTP, how is this being seen in Pakistan, are people happy to see news of his passing ?
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meh..US will want to see some action for all the money the spend on Pakistan after all. No Zarb-Gajab before US intervened and shared a picture of stone age with Pakistan.
So, basically it's like this, Pakistan kills it's own people and US gives money for that.
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No Zarb-Gajab before US intervened and shared a picture of stone age with Pakistan.So, basically it's like this, Pakistan kills it's own people and US gives money for that.
Your knowledge about the topic is mesmerizing.
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hahahaha....good. You can take a joke..
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It is likely that the Pakistani establishment released this information now to try and make it clear that Mullah Omar does not (can not since he's dead) oppose the peace talks. Pakistan's (and China's) strategy in Afghanistan has been working very well over the last few months, but it is a very high risk strategy. If it works, everyone except the US, China and Pakistan will be squeezed out of Afghanistan. If not, there are two scenarios which will be very bad indeed for Pakistan:
1. The talks drag on, violence continues and Ghani looses public support. Abdullah postures as the statesman who gave up power and is now willing to take it, only to rescue Afghanistan from the hands of Ghani. He puts NA leaders in important positions and creates loose alliances with the likes of Dostum and cancels the talks. The South stays incredibly unstable with the Taliban splintering and there's a free for all along the Pakistani border.
2. Several factions of the Taliban don't agree to the outcomes of the talks. They form new militias or pledge support to ISIS. Enough Taliban aren't on board for the outcome of the talks to be meaningful. Ghani continues in power but over a country that's disintegrating even faster than before. The breakaway factions of the Taliban target Pakistan. The South is in chaos.
While I think Pakistan has put its best foot forward in the current scenario, it's a far riskier approach than the sort of 'wait and watch' strategy other countries have adopted.
1. The talks drag on, violence continues and Ghani looses public support. Abdullah postures as the statesman who gave up power and is now willing to take it, only to rescue Afghanistan from the hands of Ghani. He puts NA leaders in important positions and creates loose alliances with the likes of Dostum and cancels the talks. The South stays incredibly unstable with the Taliban splintering and there's a free for all along the Pakistani border.
2. Several factions of the Taliban don't agree to the outcomes of the talks. They form new militias or pledge support to ISIS. Enough Taliban aren't on board for the outcome of the talks to be meaningful. Ghani continues in power but over a country that's disintegrating even faster than before. The breakaway factions of the Taliban target Pakistan. The South is in chaos.
While I think Pakistan has put its best foot forward in the current scenario, it's a far riskier approach than the sort of 'wait and watch' strategy other countries have adopted.
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The White House is reporting that reports of Omar's death are "credible."
White House Says Reports of Taliban Leader Mullah Mohammad Omar's Death Are Credible - ABC News
White House Says Reports of Taliban Leader Mullah Mohammad Omar's Death Are Credible - ABC News
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Taliban supremo Mullah Omar died in 2013 in a Karachi hospital, claims Afghan intelligence
KABUL: Taliban supremo Mullah Omar died two years ago in Pakistan, Afghanistan said on Wednesday, after unnamed government and militant sources reported the demise of the reclusive warrior-cleric.
The insurgents have not officially confirmed the death of the supreme leader of the Taliban, who has not been seen publicly since the 2001 US-led invasion of Afghanistan that toppled the Taliban government in Kabul.
Rumours of Omar’s ill-health and even death have regularly surfaced in the past, but the latest claims — just two days before fresh peace talks with the insurgents — mark the first such confirmation from the Afghan government.
“The government of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, based on credible information, confirms that Mullah Mohammad Omar, leader of the Taliban died in April 2013 in Pakistan,” a statement from the presidential palace said.
Haseeb Sediqi, the spokesman for the National Directorate of Security, told AFP that Omar died in a Karachi hospital “under mysterious circumstances”.
Omar’s death would mark a significant blow to an almost 14-year insurgency, which is riven by internal divisions and threatened by the rise of the Islamic State group in South Asia.
The official announcement comes after unnamed government and militant sources told media, including AFP, that the one-eyed leader died two or three years ago, and after the Afghan government said it was investigating reports of the death.
“We can confirm that Mullah Omar died two years ago… in Pakistan due to an illness,” a senior official in Afghanistan’s national unity government told AFP earlier.
“He was buried in Zabul province (in southern Afghanistan),” said the official, citing Afghan intelligence sources.
Omar’s death could trigger a power struggle within the Taliban, observers say, with insurgent sources claiming that Mullah Mansour, the current deputy, and Omar’s son Mohammad Yakoub are both top contenders to replace him.
Taliban faultlines
The insurgents in April published a descriptive biography of the “charismatic” supreme leader in a surprise move apparently aimed at countering the creeping influence of the Islamic State group within their ranks.
The Taliban have reportedly seen defections to IS in recent months, with some members expressing disaffection with the low-profile leader Omar.
The biography, posted on the Taliban’s official website to commemorate Omar’s apparent 19th year as supreme leader, described him as being actively involved in “jihadi activities” — trying to dispel speculation that he had died.
Earlier this month in a message released in Omar’s name, the leader was quoted as hailing the peace process as “legitimate”.
The comments, the first reputedly made by Omar on the nascent dialogue, eased concerns at the time that the process lacked the leadership’s backing.
But a member of the Quetta Shura, the Taliban’s governing council, voiced doubt over whether that message — released just before the Muslim festival of Eid-ul-Fitr — was from Mullah Omar himself.
“For the last few years he has not attended any big gathering, neither has he sent any audio message to his followers,” the member, who requested anonymity, told AFP on Wednesday.
“That gives us reason to believe that he has died.”
Waheed Muzhda, a Kabul-based analyst who served in the 1996-2001 Taliban regime’s foreign ministry, said any confirmation of his death from the militants would bode ill for the unity of their movement.
“It would mean that messages sent out in the name of Mullah Omar in the last two years were all lies and deception,” Muzhda told AFP.
Afghan officials sat down with Taliban cadres earlier this month in Murree, a tourist town in the hills north of the Pakistani capital Islamabad, for their first face-to-face talks aimed at ending the bloody insurgency.
They agreed to meet again in the coming weeks, drawing international praise, but many ground commanders openly questioned the legitimacy of the Taliban negotiators, exposing dangerous faultlines within the movement.
Afghan officials are set to meet Taliban militants later this week for a second round — expected to take place in Pakistan — with the government pledging to press for a ceasefire.
The split within the Taliban between those for and against talks has been worsened by the emergence of a local branch of IS, the Middle Eastern jihadist outfit that last year declared a “caliphate” across large areas of Iraq and Syria that it controls.
The Taliban warned IS recently against expanding in the region, but this has not stopped some fighters, inspired by the group’s success, defecting to swear allegiance to IS chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi instead of the invisible Mullah Omar. -AFP
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Taliban supremo Mullah Omar died in 2013 in a Karachi hospital, claims Afghan intelligence
KABUL: Taliban supremo Mullah Omar died two years ago in Pakistan, Afghanistan said on Wednesday, after unnamed government and militant sources reported the demise of the reclusive warrior-cleric.
The insurgents have not officially confirmed the death of the supreme leader of the Taliban, who has not been seen publicly since the 2001 US-led invasion of Afghanistan that toppled the Taliban government in Kabul.
Rumours of Omar’s ill-health and even death have regularly surfaced in the past, but the latest claims — just two days before fresh peace talks with the insurgents — mark the first such confirmation from the Afghan government.
“The government of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, based on credible information, confirms that Mullah Mohammad Omar, leader of the Taliban died in April 2013 in Pakistan,” a statement from the presidential palace said.
Haseeb Sediqi, the spokesman for the National Directorate of Security, told AFP that Omar died in a Karachi hospital “under mysterious circumstances”.
Omar’s death would mark a significant blow to an almost 14-year insurgency, which is riven by internal divisions and threatened by the rise of the Islamic State group in South Asia.
The official announcement comes after unnamed government and militant sources told media, including AFP, that the one-eyed leader died two or three years ago, and after the Afghan government said it was investigating reports of the death.
“We can confirm that Mullah Omar died two years ago… in Pakistan due to an illness,” a senior official in Afghanistan’s national unity government told AFP earlier.
“He was buried in Zabul province (in southern Afghanistan),” said the official, citing Afghan intelligence sources.
Omar’s death could trigger a power struggle within the Taliban, observers say, with insurgent sources claiming that Mullah Mansour, the current deputy, and Omar’s son Mohammad Yakoub are both top contenders to replace him.
Taliban faultlines
The insurgents in April published a descriptive biography of the “charismatic” supreme leader in a surprise move apparently aimed at countering the creeping influence of the Islamic State group within their ranks.
The Taliban have reportedly seen defections to IS in recent months, with some members expressing disaffection with the low-profile leader Omar.
The biography, posted on the Taliban’s official website to commemorate Omar’s apparent 19th year as supreme leader, described him as being actively involved in “jihadi activities” — trying to dispel speculation that he had died.
Earlier this month in a message released in Omar’s name, the leader was quoted as hailing the peace process as “legitimate”.
The comments, the first reputedly made by Omar on the nascent dialogue, eased concerns at the time that the process lacked the leadership’s backing.
But a member of the Quetta Shura, the Taliban’s governing council, voiced doubt over whether that message — released just before the Muslim festival of Eid-ul-Fitr — was from Mullah Omar himself.
“For the last few years he has not attended any big gathering, neither has he sent any audio message to his followers,” the member, who requested anonymity, told AFP on Wednesday.
“That gives us reason to believe that he has died.”
Waheed Muzhda, a Kabul-based analyst who served in the 1996-2001 Taliban regime’s foreign ministry, said any confirmation of his death from the militants would bode ill for the unity of their movement.
“It would mean that messages sent out in the name of Mullah Omar in the last two years were all lies and deception,” Muzhda told AFP.
Afghan officials sat down with Taliban cadres earlier this month in Murree, a tourist town in the hills north of the Pakistani capital Islamabad, for their first face-to-face talks aimed at ending the bloody insurgency.
They agreed to meet again in the coming weeks, drawing international praise, but many ground commanders openly questioned the legitimacy of the Taliban negotiators, exposing dangerous faultlines within the movement.
Afghan officials are set to meet Taliban militants later this week for a second round — expected to take place in Pakistan — with the government pledging to press for a ceasefire.
The split within the Taliban between those for and against talks has been worsened by the emergence of a local branch of IS, the Middle Eastern jihadist outfit that last year declared a “caliphate” across large areas of Iraq and Syria that it controls.
The Taliban warned IS recently against expanding in the region, but this has not stopped some fighters, inspired by the group’s success, defecting to swear allegiance to IS chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi instead of the invisible Mullah Omar. -AFP
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Very good news. Rot in hell.
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