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Mullah Omar Is Dead

@Jango .. thoughts ? :partay:

Uh whaaat?

BTW, just a week back somebody (@Viper0011. ) I think, posted a 15 Dec 2014 article, quoting I think a former National Security advisor or someone of that nature, saying that Mullah Omar is being harbored by the ISI b/w Quetta and Karachi...

But here there's Afghan intel claiming he is dead for the better part of 3 years...

So Mr whoever posted that article to me, what have you got to say about that now?

This just proves that nobody knows jackshit about anybody, and everyone just fires into the dark hoping it will be right...and newspapers pick it up and build a false aura, in this case around Pakistan and ISI in particular.
 
Mullah Omar had his uses. He has outlived his usability for any party now.

If he is alive, it will be prudent for him to go in exile, some isolated house over some mountain-top.
If dead, well that solves the problem for all.
If he gets captured alive in the hands of the right authorities, then he will sing like a cuckoo, which will create a lot of problem again!
 
Dawn news is reporting that Afghan talibans have confirmed mullah Omar's death.
 
Uh whaaat?

BTW, just a week back somebody (@Viper0011. ) I think, posted a 15 Dec 2014 article, quoting I think a former National Security advisor or someone of that nature, saying that Mullah Omar is being harbored by the ISI b/w Quetta and Karachi...

But here there's Afghan intel claiming he is dead for the better part of 3 years...

So Mr whoever posted that article to me, what have you got to say about that now?

This just proves that nobody knows jackshit about anybody, and everyone just fires into the dark hoping it will be right...and newspapers pick it up and build a false aura, in this case around Pakistan and ISI in particular.
the Bruce Riedel article, yeah.. that was me in this thread

my point was just to point out that Mullah Omar probably was in Pakistan, and that the US admin thought as much.

check CNN this new bit of info is all over international news now, that Mullah Omar died in Karachi, Pakistan.


so just like his friend osama, turns out he was in Pakistan too !

now what do you say about that ? :big_boss:
 
the Bruce Riedel article, yeah.. that was me in this thread

my point was just to point out that Mullah Omar probably was in Pakistan, and that the US admin thought as much.

check CNN this new bit of info is all over international news now, that Mullah Omar died in Karachi, Pakistan.


so just like his friend osama, turns out he was in Pakistan too !

now what do you say about that ? :big_boss:

First make up your mind friend?

Was he under ISI's care in 2014 or was he dead?
 
Taliban leader Mullah Omar died in a Karachi hospital: Afghan intelligence - The Express Tribune

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Supreme leader of the Afghan Taliban Mullah Omar died suffering from tuberculosis two years ago in a Karachi hospital, Afghanistan’s top intelligence agency, the National Directorate of Security (NDS) confirmed on Wednesday.

“The Afghan government has received confirmed reports that Mullah Omar died nearly two years ago in Karachi,” NDS spokesperson Abdul Haseeb Siddiqui told BBC Pushto. “We are happy that now the foreign sources have also confirmed that Mullah Omar is no more alive.”

“We still have a lot of questions how Mullah Omar died,” he said, adding that, “We have been told that the Taliban leader died owing to an illness.”

The deputy spokesperson for the Afghan President also confirmed that Mullah Omar had died in 2013.

“The government of Afghanistan believes that grounds for the Afghan peace talks are more paved now than before, and thus calls on all armed opposition groups to seize the opportunity and join the peace process,” the statement added.

Earlier, a former Afghan Taliban minister and member of the central leadership council had revealed to The Express Tribune that Mullah Omar had died owing to Tuberculosis, however, he had not disclose the location of his death.

“Mullah Omar died two years and four months ago owing to Tuberculosis. He has been buried on Afghan side of the border,” the former minister had said on the condition of anonymity.

Further, he added, “Mullah Omar’s son had identified the body of his father.”

Meanwhile, some Afghan government officials told the media in Kabul that the Pakistani government has also conveyed to them that Mullah Omar has died.

The Taliban have not yet commented on reports of Mullah Omar’s death, however, they are mulling a formal response to be release later today.

Mullah Omar’s successor

The disclosure came as reports of the Afghan Taliban chief’s death sprung up yet again when the Afghan Taliban summoned a meeting on Wednesday to elect a new chief after some leaders of the militant group confirmed Mullah Omar’s death.

The former minister also disclosed that he was invited to attend the meeting.

Taliban sources told The Express Tribune that consultations for a new leader are under way and a successor will be announced before the next round of peace talks scheduled to be held in Pakistan on July 31.

It is widely speculated that Mullah Baradar Akhund will succeed Mullah Omar as the supreme leader of the Afghan Taliban.

Mullah Omar had appointed Mullah Baradar and Mullah Ubaidullah Akhund as deputy leaders while he was alive.

Mullah Ubaidullah died in a jail in Pakistan, according to the Taliban which leaves Mullah Baradar next in line.

Mullah Baradar was reportedly released by Pakistan along with some other Taliban leaders in 2013; however, some Taliban leaders still insist he has not been allowed to rejoin his family.

Some Taliban leaders told The Express Tribune that Mullah Baradar enjoys the support of Sayed Tayyab Agha, the head of the Afghan Taliban’s political office in Qatar.

Tayyab Agha himself was a close confidante of Mullah Omar. Further, sources say that Mullah Yaqub, the son of Mullah Omar, is also in favour of Mullah Baradar succeeding his father.

Other Taliban sources say that the incumbent Taliban acting chief Mullah Akhtar Mansoor, a former aviation minister, is also among the few aspiring for this position. However, sources added that Mansoor’s position in the Taliban has been widely damaged for spreading news of Mullah Omar’s death.

Another choice for Mullah Omar’s successor could be Mullah Yaqub, his son. Yaqub recently graduated from a religious school in Karachi. However, several Taliban leaders are of the view that Yaqub is too young and may be ‘unsuitable’ for the post. A Taliban leader told The Express Tribune that Mullah Omar never wished for someone from his family to succeed him.

Mullah Omar’s brother Mullah Abdul Manan has also been actively involved in Taliban affairs in recent years.

An Afghan government official said that a press conference had been called on the subject of Taliban leader Mullah Omar, amid rumours of his death.

The official, who declined to be named because he was not authorised to give statements to the press, did not provide further details.

Further, the Afghan government is investigating reports of the death of Taliban supremo Mullah Omar, a presidential spokesman said.

The announcement from spokesperson Sayed Zafar Hashemi came after unnamed government and militant sources told media that the one-eyed leader died two or three years ago.

“We have seen reports in the media regarding the death of Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Omar,” Hashemi told a press conference.

“We are investigating these reports… and will comment once the accuracy of these reports are confirmed.”

The elusive leader of the militant group, which ruled Afghanistan in the late 1990s until it was toppled by a US-led offensive in 2001, has not been seen in public for years, leading to speculation he has been dead for some time.

The Taliban has been fighting an insurgency against the Western-backed government in Kabul since its ouster, killing thousands of civilians and security personnel and making significant territorial gains in recent months.

Tentative peace talks have begun aimed at ending the war, with the Taliban split between those who support dialogue and others who want to continue to fight for power.
 
He died 2 years ago in Karachi and this news being broken now ?
 
He died 2 years ago in Karachi and this news being broken now ?
Its all over the news.

Mullah Omar: Taliban leader 'died in Pakistan in 2013' - BBC News

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Mullah Omar, filmed in secret by a BBC crew in 1996, was rarely seen in public

Taliban leader Mullah Omar died two years ago in Pakistan, a spokesman for Afghanistan's security services says.

Abdul Hassib Seddiqi told the BBC's Afghan Service that Mullah Omar had died of health problems at a hospital in Pakistan.

Afghanistan's government says information on his death is "credible".

The latest reports of Mullah Omar's death are being taken more seriously than previous such reports. The Taliban is expected to issue a statement soon.

Sources at the Taliban's two main councils in Quetta and Peshawar in Pakistan told the BBC they were in intensive talks to agree on a replacement for Mullah Omar.

A statement from the office of Afghanistan's President Ashraf Ghani said that it believed, "based on credible information", that Mullah Omar died in April 2013 in Pakistan.

The Afghan government, elected last year, has embarked on a peace process with the Taliban.

In its statement, the government called on "all armed opposition groups to seize the opportunity and join the peace process".

A security official in Pakistan, the country hosting the talks, told AP that the claims of Mullah Omar's death were mere "speculation", designed to destabilise the negotiations.

Pakistan's government and security services have not formally commented on the claims so far. They have always denied that Mullah Omar was in their country.

Who is Mullah Omar?

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The Taliban militia won a series of victories under Mullah Omar's leadership
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The Taliban leader is believed to have suffered a shrapnel wound to his right eye in the 1980s
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Analysis - Dawood Azami, BBC World Service
Mullah Omar has not been seen in public since the fall of the Taliban regime in late 2001.

The absence of confirmed contacts for several years fuelled speculation. His ill-health and even death have regularly been rumoured in the past.

Over the past two years, even some high-ranking Taliban started asking questions, both privately and within the Taliban circles, about their leader's health, life and ability to run the insurgency.

Despite his long absence from the public view, the mystique of the man has been overwhelming. He had become a symbol and a unifying figure within the Taliban. While the day-to-day affairs have been managed by his deputies, everything else revolved around his name.

Questions about his life and whereabouts will only increase, putting pressure on the Taliban to produce credible evidence - if he is alive.

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The US Federal Bureau of Investigation issued a wanted notice for Mullah Omar
Mullah Omar led the Taliban to victory over rival Afghan militias in the civil war that followed the withdrawal of Soviet troops.

His alliance with al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden prompted the US-led invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks on New York and Washington.

Mullah Omar has since been in hiding, with a $10m (£6.4m) US state department bounty on his head.

Over the years, the Taliban have released several messages purported to be from the fugitive leader.

The latest of these statements, from mid-July, expressed support for the peace talks between the Taliban and the Afghan government.

However, the message was in the form of a text published on a Taliban website, rather than an audio or video recording - fuelling rumours that the leader was dead or incapacitated.
 
Indians are playing their dirty game here. He is most likely dead and this is just a desperate attempt to derail the talks between the warring factions. Its in India's best interest to keep Afghanistan burning.
Then why did Pakistan support the Taliban all these years?
 
he was in Pakistan,

So changing your story when it suits you, not a very authentic approach I'd say.

yeh to bakrion wala kaam ho gaya, go where the shepherd makes you go!
 
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