Moscow airport bomb: suicide bombers were part of squad trained in Pakistan

[SpArK]

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[Dance]

India, Iran, Russia etc... they all say the same thing. There are Pakistani citizens planting bombs in every corner of the western world. Why do you Pakistanis deny that you have a problem?
It's like me saying that Iran is a democratic country with the best human rights record on earth

According to the West and Israel, Iran is a sponsor of terrorism around the world. So please spare us the BS. Plus if you had bothered to read the article the people who carried out the attack were NOT Pakistanis

 

[LeGenD]

India, Iran, Russia etc... they all say the same thing. There are Pakistani citizens planting bombs in every corner of the western world. Why do you Pakistanis deny that you have a problem?
It's like me saying that Iran is a democratic country with the best human rights record on earth

Pakistani people are behind 9/11 event too, right?

This stereotypical mentality will serve you typical Pakistani bashers no good.

Pakistan is in a state of war. Things are messed up over here. However, not every act of terror in the world is committed by a Pakistani. You guys need some reality check.

Terrorism existed before 9/11 too. However, WEST has found a scapegoat in the form of Pakistan to blame all acts of EVIL in this world on us.

 

[Dance]

Pakistani people are behind 9/11 event too, right?

This stereotypical mentality will serve you typical Pakistani bashers no good.

Pakistan is in a state of war. Things are messed up over here. However, not every act of terror in the world is committed by a Pakistani. You guys need some reality check.

Terrorism existed before 9/11 too. However, WEST has found a scapegoat in the form of Pakistan to blame all acts of EVIL in this world on us.

Exactly I find it ironic coming from a guy who's country funds groups like hezbollah and is on the list of "axis of evil".

 

[The HBS Guy]

You guys want to get some insight about Pakistani affairs regarding WOT?

No we don't. It might sound harsh but trust me, we don't and I'm being very frank and honest here.

The day 10 pakistani kids came in a rubber dinghy and butchered 200 of our people was the day when I, including many Indians, just lost all belief and hope of ever having, or even wanting, peace with Pakistan.

26/11 left a very deep scar on the psyche of Indians.

You might come up saying that you guys have suffered much more in this WoT and sure you have, nobody can deny that.

BUT! and this is a BIG BUT!

Your are suffering from terrorism because of your own failed policies call them 'strategic depth' or 'bleeding India by a 1000 cuts' or whatever. The truth remains that unless you provide the world some proof of some other country being involved in terrorism in Pakistan, you will remain a victim of your own policies, albeit in a sad way.

Comparing this with 26/11 or other such events, our people did not die because of our failed policies, sure there were security let-ups, but at the end of the day, fact remains that our people died because of the policies of a neighboring country.

In short, Pakistan is a victim of its own policies while India (and even Afghanistan) is a victim of Pakistan's policies.

Now tell me, why should we suffer because of YOUR policies?

Why should we suffer because of Pakistan not controlling people like Hafiz Sayeed?

It's been so long since 26/11 happened, yet Pakistan refuses to act against Hafiz Sayeed and his ilk.

And then you say that we should assist you?

WHY SHOULD WE? WHAT'S IN IT FOR US?

Our people are being killed anyways.

Will co-operating with Pakistan stop such attacks like 26/11?

NO! Not until people like Hafiz Sayeed are out there.

Then why should we co-operate with you?

If you want progress in India-Pakistan relationship, act against Hafiz Sayeed and the other guys involved in 26/11. We have already given you ample amount of proof. Now it's your responsibility to conduct a quick and impartial investigation and bring the perpetrators to justice.

Unless you do that, India or Indians will not view Pakistan from a different angle than the one they currently view it from.

The ball is in your court.

 

[DV RULES]

Terrorism would not put Russia on its knees.

26.01.2011, 23.36

DAVOS, January 26 (Itar-Tass) -- President Dmitry Medvedev said terrorism would not put Russia on its knees.

“Those who carried out this heinous crime by directing the blow against citizens of different countries hoped that the terrorist act would put Russia on the knees and make us go on offensive, and the president will not go to the forum. This is how the place and the time of the crime were chosen. But they were wrong. Russia understands its place in the world and responsibility to its citizens and the international community. This is why I am speaking from this podium today,” Medvedev said.

“What happened only fortified us in our determination to find effective protection from international terrorism,” he said.

“This tragedy shocked Russian society” even though Russia had experienced trials before, the president said.

“Terrorism denies the most valuable thing – the value of human life, tramples upon rights and freedoms, imposes fear and hate, impedes attempts to change and improve the world,” he said.

In his opinion, “what makes the situation so dramatic is that terrorist acts change the usual course of life dramatically and make people adopt very harsh decisions, they radically change mentality of not only the victims of terror but also of all people who live on our planet.”

“Unfortunately, no country in the world is protected against terror today” and “there are no universal recipes for fighting this evil. But there is one thing we are confident about: our solidarity and coordinated decisions are critical to success in dealing with this problem, especially when globalisation has made the world even more interdependent and we have to step up our joint fight against terrorism.” Medvedev said.

He called for “eradicating the socio-economic causes of terrorism – poverty, unemployment, illiteracy, orphanhood” and ensure that “global development becomes sustainable, safe and fair”.



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[Abu Zolfiqar]

India, Iran, Russia etc... they all say the same thing. There are Pakistani citizens planting bombs in every corner of the western world. Why do you Pakistanis deny that you have a problem?
It's like me saying that Iran is a democratic country with the best human rights record on earth

coming from an Iranian, this is quite funny....

buddy, worry for your own country right now, considering every corner of western world is talking about attacking yours on day to day basis --even the Gulf Arabs.

who is denying we have a problem? We are just saying, sensationalist orange-media headlines don't make things true. Read the above post, it may be good for you 'dadash'

you guys are supporting proxies in different countries of the world from Yemen to Lebanon to Afghanistan --even in Pakistan.

so it's best that you not even try to shed light on such a topic


Dorood o Salaam!

 

[DV RULES]

Explosion of the mined car in Dagestan has carried away lives of two persons, five more are wounded

Makhachkala, Dagestan. Russia
On January, 26th, 2011 22:58

According to preliminary data, two persons were lost, five more have got wounds as a result of car explosion in the Dagestan Khasavyurt, has informed "Interfax" a source in ОВД Dagestan.

As the interlocutor of agency has informed, "the mined car has blown up near to one of cafe approximately at 22:15".

"According to the preliminary information, two persons were lost, five are wounded. On a place the operatively-investigatory brigade" works, - the source has told.


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To thread starter, don't believe on yellow newspapers you mentioned in your post with closed eyes.

 

[JonAsad]

No we don't. It might sound harsh but trust me, we don't and I'm being very frank and honest here.

The day 10 pakistani kids came in a rubber dinghy and butchered 200 of our people was the day when I, including many Indians, just lost all belief and hope of ever having, or even wanting, peace with Pakistan.

26/11 left a very deep scar on the psyche of Indians.

You might come up saying that you guys have suffered much more in this WoT and sure you have, nobody can deny that.

BUT! and this is a BIG BUT!

Your are suffering from terrorism because of your own failed policies call them 'strategic depth' or 'bleeding India by a 1000 cuts' or whatever. The truth remains that unless you provide the world some proof of some other country being involved in terrorism in Pakistan, you will remain a victim of your own policies, albeit in a sad way.

Comparing this with 26/11 or other such events, our people did not die because of our failed policies, sure there were security let-ups, but at the end of the day, fact remains that our people died because of the policies of a neighboring country.

In short, Pakistan is a victim of its own policies while India (and even Afghanistan) is a victim of Pakistan's policies.

Now tell me, why should we suffer because of YOUR policies?

Why should we suffer because of Pakistan not controlling people like Hafiz Sayeed?

It's been so long since 26/11 happened, yet Pakistan refuses to act against Hafiz Sayeed and his ilk.

And then you say that we should assist you?

WHY SHOULD WE? WHAT'S IN IT FOR US?

Our people are being killed anyways.

Will co-operating with Pakistan stop such attacks like 26/11?

NO! Not until people like Hafiz Sayeed are out there.

Then why should we co-operate with you?

If you want progress in India-Pakistan relationship, act against Hafiz Sayeed and the other guys involved in 26/11. We have already given you ample amount of proof. Now it's your responsibility to conduct a quick and impartial investigation and bring the perpetrators to justice.

Unless you do that, India or Indians will not view Pakistan from a different angle than the one they currently view it from.

The ball is in your court.

You should have stayed at Bharat Ratshit forum.
We dont care what you think, your pakistanophobia its genetic-- un curable.

 

[Dance]

You should have stayed at Bharat Ratshit forum.
We dont care what you think, your pakistanophobia its genetic-- un curable.

Him and the 95% of the indians on here too

 

[Mutee]

My dear indian friends you have posted some of the most useless set of arguments here to prove that Pakistanis have done it it's not the case at all let me tell you with all honesty Pakistani ppl don't like or support terrorism and this news first appeared in Hindustan times if im not wrong so stop spreading hate no one has oficcaly charged Pakistan with this blame yet even if they do let me again tell you pakitanis hate terrorism we are the ones getting killed in fighting it not u so don't just sit and pass judgements as some poster already mentioned it's indeed a very complicated issue

 

[LeGenD]

No we don't. It might sound harsh but trust me, we don't and I'm being very frank and honest here.

Another demonstration of typical Indian arrogance regarding affairs inside Pakistan. Fine! If you do not want to understand our problems then do not expect too much from us either in your hour of need.

The day 10 pakistani kids came in a rubber dinghy and butchered 200 of our people was the day when I, including many Indians, just lost all belief and hope of ever having, or even wanting, peace with Pakistan.

26/11 left a very deep scar on the psyche of Indians.

So one sad event was enough to put a dent on your nation's morale?

Hello? Pakistani government did not send those idiots to Mumbai to carry out these acts of terror. Pakistan banned organizations like Lashkar-e-Taiba long ago. These organizations are not free to carry out their agenda within Pakistani space. And Pakistan is also cooperating with India in regard to alleged infilitrations from our border in to Kashmir.

You guys are not even interested in recognizing the kashmir dispute, so why blame us? Kashmiri people are being killed on almost daily basis by your troops. Do the math.

You might come up saying that you guys have suffered much more in this WoT and sure you have, nobody can deny that.

Yes! It is a legitimate point. It shows our concern in addressing the fundamental issue of terrorism inside Pakistan. And unlike, Indians, we have strong moral urge to deal with this menance. The frequent bomb blasts in various Pakistani regions (including in cities) have failed to demoralize Pakistani people. It is a testament of our resiliance.

You Indians need to learn a few lessons from us.

BUT! and this is a BIG BUT!

No! Ifs and Buts please.

Try to resolve all oustanding issues with us.

Your are suffering from terrorism because of your own failed policies call them 'strategic depth' or 'bleeding India by a 1000 cuts' or whatever. The truth remains that unless you provide the world some proof of some other country being involved in terrorism in Pakistan, you will remain a victim of your own policies, albeit in a sad way.

100% wrong.

We are suffering from terrorism due to blunders of COLD WAR era committed by foreign elements. USSR and USA have equal share in our suffering.

Comparing this with 26/11 or other such events, our people did not die because of our failed policies, sure there were security let-ups, but at the end of the day, fact remains that our people died because of the policies of a neighboring country.

Really? What about Kashmir dispute? No wait! You will claim that Kashmir is integral part of India. Then why deport the BJP activists from there? Something is not right?

In short, Pakistan is a victim of its own policies while India (and even Afghanistan) is a victim of Pakistan's policies.

Yeah right!

Why China is not a victim of Pakistan's policies then?

Now tell me, why should we suffer because of YOUR policies?

Why should we suffer because of Pakistan not controlling people like Hafiz Sayeed?

It's been so long since 26/11 happened, yet Pakistan refuses to act against Hafiz Sayeed and his ilk.

People like these find justification in kashmir issue. Not that I support them, but you guys are turning a blind eye towards this major bone of contention between our countries.

And then you say that we should assist you?

WHY SHOULD WE? WHAT'S IN IT FOR US?

Is a stable and terror free Pakistan not in your interest? Or you wish to see Taliban style leadership with nuclear weapons?

Guess what? Even Obama said in your country that you Indians need to treat your neighbours good.

Our people are being killed anyways.

And your state policies are not less responsible than some Pakistani elements. Now dont tell me that Pakistan funded Maiost movement too.

Will co-operating with Pakistan stop such attacks like 26/11?

YES!

NO! Not until people like Hafiz Sayeed are out there.

Then why should we co-operate with you?

Ask your government. It needs to interact more with our leadership.

And why not establish a 26/11 commission to probe lapses in your security apparatus?

If you want progress in India-Pakistan relationship, act against Hafiz Sayeed and the other guys involved in 26/11. We have already given you ample amount of proof. Now it's your responsibility to conduct a quick and impartial investigation and bring the perpetrators to justice.

Unless you do that, India or Indians will not view Pakistan from a different angle than the one they currently view it from.

The ball is in your court.

Pakistan is probing this case but is tightlipped on the issue. You Indians need to address our concerns also.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

the funny thing is, indians were involved in that attack too --and nobody has yet asked about hotel workers who were obviously complicit in the plan; indians have also been involved in acts of terror ---who was the dude who crashed that explosives laden Jeep Cherokee into the airport in Glasgow back in '07?

2 can play at this silly game......though its a waste of time.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Lol @ abii.... did u read ur countrys name mentioned in the news? Dude ur an exclusive member of the"AXIS OF EVIL" Club!

@indians.... stop trollin ppl.........

 

[DV RULES]

Original news link
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Translation version

26.01.11 17:48

he part of the terrorist grouping which have blown up the airport of Domodedovo, has been detained in December. It was declared by the councilor of federation Vladimir Kulakov. The senator became the first official who has recognized that special services knew about acts of terrorism preparing in capital region. Prime minister Vladimir Putin has declared that explosion at the airport, most likely, doesn't concern the Chechen Republic.
Putin also has declared that Russia will never carry on negotiations with terrorists. «Any country respecting in the world doesn't go on this way. Such attempts of negotiations with terrorists and extremists have in the early nineties led us to the first and second Chechen wars, – he has declared to journalists. Is a world practice of fight against terrorism. As soon as we enter negotiations with terrorists, aggression increases – and the quantity of victims increases. World practice – anybody with terrorists doesn't conduct negotiations». Answering a question that should do the state in a present situation, Putin has noticed that first of all it is necessary to develop first of all social and economic base in the North Caucasus.

Also on Wednesday the first official statement that special services could know about preparing in the Domodedovo airport has sounded. It was made by the senator from the Magadan area Vladimir Kulakov. According to the councilor of federation, a part of the terrorists involved in explosion, have been seized by employees of FSB in December, 2010. «I am not assured that those groups which have been thrown in Moscow for fulfillment of act of terrorism (and they actually have been thrown – the part from them has been isolated about New year), couldn't make conceived in other places», – quotes words of Kulakova "Interfax".
According to the senator, a principal cause of that special services have missed the bailed terrorists, there was a corruption in law enforcement bodies.


Earlier in FSB and the Municipal Department of Internal Affairs of Moscow, making comments on messages of mass-media that about act of terrorism in Domodedovo was known in advance, asserted that any information on explosion preparation didn't possess. Representatives of power departments have been compelled to act with similar comments after a number of editions referring to sources in law enforcement bodies have informed that three prospective helpers домодедовского the condemned man have been put on the wanted list even before act of terrorism and could disappear in Moscow or Moscow suburbs. As wrote on the eve of "Gazeta.Ru", indirect signs of that FSB has begun active work on search of insurgents in capital region, have appeared even in the autumn of last year. As representatives of human rights organization "Memorial", in Moscow and area have declared there has passed a series of abductions of the armed people, presumably employees of FSB. Such method, has told a member of "Memorial" Alexander Tcherkasov, is more characteristic for agents of national security in the North Caucasus, and similar detention in capital region pass for the first time. «It can speak about serious operative work which was illegal and all the same hasn't given results», – Tcherkasov has told. On the night of September, 25th, 2010 at the Historical mosque in Moscow three natives from the North Caucasus – Zelimhan Chibiev, Magomed Israpilov and Dzhamal Magomedov have been stolen. Their destiny is unknown till now. A month later in Moscow two more natives of Dagestan, arrived to capital on earnings have completely disappeared. As eyewitnesses of abduction have told to legal experts, Daghestanis were taken away with themselves «by militiamen in a camouflage».
Legal experts notice that these abductions coincide on time with an active phase of special action against the insurgents involved in May act of terrorism in Stavropol and August in Pyatigorsk.


In October the director of FSB Alexander Bortnikov at a meeting with president Dmitry Medvedev has reported about bandit group liquidation in the North Caucasus. Its participants, according to Bortnikova, have a direct bearing on explosion in Pyatigorsk. «It is established that this gangster group concerns the acts of terrorism which have occurred on August, 17th in Pyatigorsk when a considerable quantity of peace citizens was lost, and to preparation of not taken place act of terrorism in Stavropol on September, 30th», – he has told. During special action two insurgents have been killed, four more are detained and этапированы to Moscow for interrogations.

In November the Investigatory committee has reported about capture of the Daghestani suspected of the organization of act of terrorism in Stavropol. Without naming his name, inspectors have informed that they managed to establish participation in the Stavropol explosion of two more natives of Dagestan – Farida Misrieva and Abibully Abdullaev. Both have been killed – Misriev during special action in June, 2010, and Abdullaev during armed assault on shop in September.

As on Tuesday has informed "Rosbalt", act of terrorism in Domodedovo could become the answer to these special actions. According to the source of agency, after October spot-checks of FSB three participants have gone to Moscow so-called ногайского a battalion. This fighting structure of North Caucasian insurgents has been generated during the second Chechen war by Shamilem Basayev, and then operated in territory of Stavropol Territory, the Chechen Republic and Dagestan. It is not excluded that explosions in Pyatigorsk and Stavropol could be business of their hands. To find the participants who have left in capital «ногайского a battalion» operatively it was not possible. Employees of FSB left on them only after on December, 31st in a guest small house of shooting club in Kuzminkah who was removed by terrorists, in hands of one of смертниц the self-made bomb has blown up. After that in Volgograd its prospective accomplice has been detained. Thus on freedom, according to special services, there were four more fighters of "battalion". It is not excluded, what exactly they are involved in explosion at the airport.