MOHAN BHAGWAT IS RIGHT: India is a 'Hindu' Nation.

[Vyom]

Do you have an idea what SUPREME COURT of India thinks about Modi Govt ?

https://twitter.com/x/status/520417906555752448

Well the guy tweeting this ran away from power in 49 days. see the replys. Your supreme court didn't have a very bright opiniion on your Prime Ministers. Two of them, serially. Plus its a delayed report The officials will get asses beaten off once they report to the ministry , sadly the minister won't tweet that.

 

[jbond197]

Please show me where did I claim that....? What did I respond to? and in what context....

I take grave offense to statements by some bigoted troll here who are maligning mallus and bengalis or even muslims of India based on thier caste creed religion language... I will take offense to that.... I will take the same offense if some one malligns telegus or christians or dalits or brahmins or any demographics....

You are free to have your political beliefs and fight tooth and nail to that... but singling out a certain group and claiming they are any lesser of Indians, which has been evident on this thread is something I take grave offense to..

Show me where I did what ever you are claiming above that you threatened to get me banned.

Founder of 'Hinduism' ?? I mean you suffer from a defunct ALU in your brain or what ?

He meant Hindutva..

 

[scorpionx]

In 12th century, the Rajputs were the ones who due to internal division failed completely in stopping the Islamic invasion (Maratha Empire came into existence much later- do you think I am talking about Hindutva history here? ) but their resistance was so stiff that Islamic forces when they took the Delhi seat they thought it was wise not to infuriate them and their populace further. They formed alliances with the Rajput Kings to be able to rule with out having to face the collective wrath of all of them and with a promise that their populace will not be forced to convert. So the conversions mostly happened at places which came directly under Muslim rule like Awadh, Bengal, Deccan etc where as the regions which fell under Rajputs, Jats, Dogras ras, Sikhs, Maratha faced least conversion. It was not a change of heart but it was purely out of fear that if various enraged Kings joins hand it will be their end. That saved India from turning into Persia.

The various Rajput Kings did not join hand because of infighting and other issues.

We all know this part of the history. Funny, that you are hinging on political alliances which was devoid of any integrated nationalistic feelings. Some of the Rajputs were even undecided in 1947 whether to join Indian Union or not.

So, I must assume that you believe the major concentration Muslim Converts in North West and Bengal was due to forceful conversion, right?

 

[SanjeevaniButi]

I have many independent jury to testify for my identity and credentials, speak about you, moron.

LOL. Pathetic. ......... papa sheres ka sautela bachcha.

 

[jbond197]

Ok then learn more histories and come here to talk.

Unlike your Bong bros I am not claiming to be the champion of history. The same guy I think skipped a history lesson for claiming that Maratha empire existed in 12th century.

Keep making bong histories!! It's really fun reading some, sounds much like the Pakistani conspiracies coming straight out of Kissa Kawani bazaar publications.

So, I must assume that you believe the major concentration Muslim Converts in North West and Bengal was due to forceful conversion, right?

Yes, I do believe that. I can't believe somebody would debate that as well.. Sickularism, I hate you!!

 

[Skull and Bones]

LOL. Pathetic. ......... papa sheres ka sautela bachcha.

High level of upbringing in display, mama will be so proud.

 

[SanjeevaniButi]

Let me give you a Bihari one... Ja ke doob ja...

 

[scorpionx]

Yes, I do believe that. I can't believe somebody would debate that as well.. Sickularism, I hate you!!

You can hate anything unless you know squat about it.

 

[SanjeevaniButi]

High level of upbringing in display, mama will be so proud.

Now why would anybody need any kind of upbringing while dealing with wild animals ? ...... for that you just need a sharp pointed stick

 

[Skull and Bones]

Now why would anybody need any kind of upbringing while dealing with wild animals ? ...... for that you just need a sharp pointed stick

DRDO is hiring talented people these days for cyber warfare.

 

[jbond197]

You can hate anything unless you know squat about it.

Sure, Thanks for enlightening us, you know it all genius!!

Now I can understand why some folks are hated so much.

 

[scorpionx]

Sure, Thanks for enlightening us, you know it all genius!!

Off course I am. I am glad to say, I know far far far more than the online Hindutvwadis about my own country and my people.

 

[MilSpec]

Show me where I did what ever you are claiming above that you threatened to get me banned.

that doesn't even make any sense... Let me repeat it again,,,, Any one targeting and maligning any demographics is an offense to Indian nationalism and I will take offense to that... I have nothing against any individuals ....I never issued any threats to you.... only to the trolls who are insulting the certain demographics not that they care much about ratings....

 

[SanjeevaniButi]

DRDO is hiring talented people these days for cyber warfare.

DRDO hires talented people all right, the real deal. Not people who claim to be super achievers

 

[temp1994]

The difference is, the Maratha or Rajput kingdoms didn't really fight for the freedom of India, they fought to save their kingdoms, they were brave, they fought well, but not selflessly for the country called India. Similarly Siraz-Ud-Daulah is not considered a freedom fighter.

Maratha Kingdom was initially envisioned itself as a hindu kingdom fighting a war of reconquista, though later they turned into a typical power hungry empire.

Your assertion about Rajputs is borne out of your ignorance of History.

Yes there were Rajput kingdoms who just fought for their survival, there were even some who aligned with likes of ghori to defeat their neighbour; but such examples are outshone by ones where they fought as one to safeguard Aryavrata from mellechas.

The combined forces of Gujara-Pratihara ( rajput confedracy ) and Chalukyan empires ( mind you these two were at constant war and it would have been politically suitable for Chalukyans to see Pratiharas fail ) along with some marginal small kings defeated forces of Ummayad khalifate which kept India safe from Islamic invasion for 300 years.It was only after the exhausion of three competing empires ( Gujara-Pratihara, Pala , and Rashtrakutas ) due to infighting during Kannauk triangle era that Islam got a toehold in India.

You are probably also unaware of the fact that Rajput fought as one to protect Kabulshahi dynasty ( yes, contrary to perceptions East Afghanistan has historically been a Hindu/Buddhist zone; a part of India ) against Ghaznavi in Battle of Chach. It was only after Ghaznavi shattered combined Rajput army after a heavily contested battle, that he was able to plunder North-West India; and this too occured only because Chola Empire, which has strongest army in subcontinent refused help.


And you are certainly unaware of the fact that Ghaznavi's raid was not standalone event. India was repeatedly attecked by his family, first by sebuktigin ( ghaznavi's father ) which did not materialized due to presence of Kabulshahi dynasty ( though it wrested Kabul from Dharampal ,then by Ghaznavi , then by his nephew Masud Ghazni.

Ever wondered why those raids ended or why there was no Delhi sultunate in 1030?

That is because Masud Ghazni was defeated by a hindu confedracy led by Raja Sukhdev ( Raja Sukhdev + Rai Raib, Rai Saib, Rai Arjun, Rai Bheekhan, Rai Kanak, Rai Kalyan, Rai Makaru, Rai Savaru, Rai aran, Rai Birbal, Rai Jaypal, Rai Shreepal, Rai Harpal, Rai Hakru, Rai Prabhu, Rai Deo Narayan, Rai Narsinha Bais Rajputs,Arkawanshikshatriyas, Kalhans Rajputs, Raikwars and bhar warriors) in battle of Bahraich.

Hindu laws prohibit slaughter of civilians and/or defeated/routed enemy, but the memory of Ghaznavi was so searing that not a single muslim ( including camp followers ) was spared in that battle. Masud Ghazni died in that battle and India was not attacked again until 1192.( that idiot prithviraj chauhan should have learned to finish his enemies to last from this battle ).

But the tragicomedy of this battle has just began. Muslims during delhi sultanate time proclaimed Masud was a Ghazi and elevated his status to a pir. Every year an Urs is organized in his memory ,at the site of battle, which even some superstitious traitor hindus attend so that pir baba could fulfill some of their guttral wish ( did you know that @Indrani @SanjeevaniButi @SarthakGanguly @wolfschanzze ).


So your assertion that Hindu Kings never fought for Independence or idea of India against Muslims is wrong and borne out of your ignorance.