Modi govt keeps Pakistan out of regional plans, signs pacts with other countries

[Paksanity]

What the whole world are fools to prefer cargo by sea and spending trillions for that !

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And China will carve a sea from its east coast to Xinjiang right? Just to keep costs of road travel down you know!

 

[GURU DUTT]

For a total history of about 6 and half decades, Pakistan was ahead of India for 4 decades. You have been ahead for about two. Now don't be shallow.

my friend stop boasting about past glories and start thinking and correcting and investing in present and future if you want to grow

as for bieng shallow wasnt it you who tried to make fun of indian economy and started cheer leading for taking help of chinese experts

 

[Mr.Nair]

And China will carve a sea from its east coast to Xinjiang right? Just to keep costs of road travel down you know!

Gwadar want to connect chinese under developed western region to sea and also avoid risk of naval blockade in case of war like scenario by US/Indian forces which any way highly unlikely.Rest are just hot air.You can post any nonsense but will not change facts.

 

[Paksanity]

Gwadar want to connect chinese under developed western region to sea and also avoid risk of naval blockade in case of war like scenario by US/Indian forces which any way highly unlikely.Rest are just hot air.You can post any nonsense but will not change facts.

Of course you are right. That is why Chinese are building it. Who said it was specifically to benefit Pakistan. But the thing is it does benefit Pakistan. It gives us a developed port, excellent infrastructure and trade route. It also gives us trading fee if any. Not to mention energy plants and industrialized zones. Why on earth we would not take it especially when it has the potential to integrate more countries like Iran and Afghanistan?!

my friend stop boasting about past glories and start thinking and correcting and investing in present and future if you want to grow

as for bieng shallow wasnt it you who tried to make fun of indian economy and started cheer leading for taking help of chinese experts

Called satire not cheap. Showing off wealth is cheap. At least here in Pakistan. Go through threads and see who likes toshow off more often.

If we did it in past we can do it in future as well. You guys aren't even yet. Another two decades to go. And we did it without trading with India. Unfortunately India sees economic recovery and stability of Pakistan as athreat to itself. Your ministers make no effort to hide their hate for our success against terrorism or harmony with new Afghan Govt or even an economic project with China. A god damn road is unacceptable because it runs through GB? A god damn road??!! Wow! Such is the deep rooted hatred. Roads bring connectivity which brings prosperity. Prosperity brings peace and that brings understanding of each other. If India was sincere to increase regional harmony, you would encourage economic development in pakistan coz it will lead to peace and finally opening trade with India. But no. Your new government makes no effort to hide that it wants pakistan embroiled in eternal conflict. With this attitude what on earth not make us look north, west and south west?!

 

[Capt.Haddock]

indians cant even pee in SCS without china permission

India is exploring oil in scs since 2010 or so, we are even doing navy exercises there, where do you think they pee?

 

[bhola singh]

For a total history of about 6 and half decades, Pakistan was ahead of India for 4 decades. You have been ahead for about two. Now don't be shallow.

Pakistan was ahead in growth rate and per capita during the cold war due to US handouts, it may well get ahead of India again but this time due to Chinese handouts.

I am not sure how long pimpin from one strongman to another would work, just in case India may your next benefactor...

It's never been ahead of India in economy, not even with bongladesh put together.

 

[coffee_cup]

Feeling important aren't we?

How many more times Indians are going to brag about this non-event?

2-3 threads almost every week on something, Pakistan dont even give a shyte about,

 

[Desert Fox]

Shouldn't then post the link which suggests otherwise.

That's an indian link (Zee News), so of course they will try to downplay Modis reaction to CPEC.

 

[Super Falcon]

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When a ship dock in indian port the goods meant for India as our imported item, be it coal for power plant ,oil whatever it may be and we also export tech products like automobiles abroad. You developed Gwadar port just as the transit route to chinese to import goods ONLY to western border of china.The majority commodity not intend for pakistan.This never create much pakistan economic activity other than collecting transit fees or can say TOLL FEES.

Go by sea is much cheaper and safer than by land even it take long distance.

Ho said it is entire goods will be for china and pak govt thinking of making it free port of tax so more ships dock here even ships who want to go to india they left induan goods in gwadar due to free port who want to pay money if they have free option

 

[Sinnerman108]

Sleepless nights? You should read your own links before commenting. The objection is because it cuts through Kashmir which India routinely objects to (it's why you get no international funding for any proposed dams in Kashmir) and Pakistan does vice versa.

More importantly it is to neutralise Chinese objections to Indian projects in the South China sea. You go through territory India considers disputed, shouldn't expect china's concerns to be heard in the SC sea.

From your link:

Answering queries at a press conference, she said the government had summoned the Chinese envoy over the $46 billion economic corridor that is to run through Pakistani Kashmir.


She said the Indian envoy in Beijing had also raised the issue. Chinese President Xi Jinping had announced the ambitious 3,000 km-long China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) during his visit to Pakistan in April.


"Prime minster during his visit took up the issue very firmly and spoke very strongly that the CPEC going through Azad Kashmir (Azad Kashmir) is unacceptable," she said.

Bhutan , Nepal, Bangladesh are no more than Indian provinces.

The only country from India's neighbors who India couldn't subdue was and is Pakistan.

So, no points there for the article writer.

Secondly, the more India alienates / draws a line between Pakistan and the rest of south asia the better.

China IS an economic power house, and it IS the world's industrial production center.
Everyone, including India will need cheaper ways to trade with China.

Pakistan will extract it's pound of flesh then, once the CPEC is complete.

 

[saadee]

Is it a news or you are telling us a joke of the century? WHO CARES? I hope poster is not serious.

 

[Anuj Tagra]

Nobody is stopping you go ahead. India is the one raising objections over CPEC.

They will do the same to others in the region when something doesn't suit their interests.

Pakistan will have no part in this. Your reign of terror stops at your western border so I suggest you continue to look East for your next minion.

We will certainly do that because it passes through disputed territory.

We dont need to do any reign of Terror in the west,Pakistanis do it on the inside only.

 

[coffee_cup]

That is silly. The point is made. You don't think Kashmir is disputed? Excellent news!
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What about you? Do you think Kashmir is disputed?

 

[Paksanity]

Pakistan was ahead in growth rate and per capita during the cold war due to US handouts, it may well get ahead of India again but this time due to Chinese handouts.

I am not sure how long pimpin from one strongman to another would work, just in case India may your next benefactor...

It's never been ahead of India in economy, not even with bongladesh put together.

Economic aid of US was negligible. Military aid, yes. I see there is an impression in India fed constantly by media and polticians that Pakistan at its own is nothing. Has achieved nothing in history. Here are the facts. If foreign aid is any measure to go by then Pakistan can continue to receive aid at the same rate for next one century and yet not match aid India has received since 1947. That's the amount of foreign aid India has received just to keep its poor alive and is still receiving because Indian government just won't spend on its marginalised sections of society. Get the picture? 100 years more and you can't bring foreign aid into discussion.

For first three decades of its existence, Pakistan's economy grew so rapidly that it was considered as a model for the world. If you are into unbiased research, please do so and have that moment of clarity. We left India way way behind us in just about everything. There is section on this forum titled Pakistan before 90s. See those pictures and compare India of that era and you will know. We continued on this trajectory till disastrous struck when Z.A. BHUTTO decided to nationalized industry and then Zia ul Haq happened. So let's cut the crap of nationalism. Pakistanis are talented hard working bunch of people. Given a fair atmosphere we will show you again that we don't need SAARC or something. While your leaders feed you crap of Pakistan about to crumble, they are well aware what this nation can do if they put their house in order. And they are doing everything possible to keep Pakistan in its internal problems by stoking rifts and violence in our society. They are also doing their utmost to deny economic opportunities and activities to take root in my country. I, however find it funny that you, the recipient of enormous foreign aid in history will come and raise the issue of Pakistan's dependence on foreign country. You did not bother to research Pakistan's economy in first four decades after 1947, right?

We will certainly do that because it passes through disputed territory.

We dont need to do any reign of Terror in the west,Pakistanis do it on the inside only.

We built Karakorum highway through same territory. Were you able to stop us? You think there is a weight in the argument that a road, yes a GOD DAMN ROAD can not be built in a disputed territory? And China-pakistan give a sh*t what you think?

 

[sathya]

We do not intend to hamper Pakistan s growth..

We want to develop the region and don't want to get delayed because of Pakistan..

You are always welcome to grow and develop with us..