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Minister of Saudi Arabia National Guard is going to Turkey

His fall is a given and out of question but what worries me is Syrian land integrity, I'm afraid he could establish an Alawite state on as much land as he can get. This will not happen if FSA stay united and go after his terrorists everywhere in Syria till they are finished, but if they become territorial and just keen to save their own areas, Syria will be partitioned.

It's highly unlikely that Assad will get his hands own a single town, it's just a matter of time for now :) maybe the allies will take counter measures soon.

Yeah. To be honest, I doubt russia+Iran are strong enough to take on even just the Arab League + Turkey. Not that they couldn't win a military match-up, but it wouldn't be worth it at that point. I wouldn't say a Saudi in a Eurofighter is as scary as a German in one, but it's still a Eurofighter Typhoon they'd have to shoot out of the air nonetheless

Forget about the GCC, and Jordan for now

Both countries have been nothing but nasty and hostile toward Turkey. WhoTF is Putin to dictate what should Turkey do or shouldn't?, Turkey is a sovereign State and she can deploy as many as batteries they wish on their boarders. The best thing the Turks did was to give the cold shoulders for both Iran and Russia.

Iran is only good for big talks, " Erdogan don't play with fire " LoLz

Common Iranian expressions are associated with fire, after all they are Zoro!

He already used more than half of his ballistic missiles on his own people according to Mossad reports and the other thing most of his missiles are in-accurate and with patriot missiles around they would easily take out any missile if he dares to fire into jordan or turkey .

What is most important now is working on containing the so called " Jubhet al nusra " and other alqauda related groups in a post Assad era .

Alqauda is the main threat to Saudi Arabia stability after the mulla regime of iran , I am convinced that both are allied under the table.

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We all want to see a stable syria that will abandon rogue behaviour and be friendly towards its neighbours , that would be better for Syrians , Turks and the whole region.

Assad had lost nearly %60 of his military capability over the last two years, and now he's counting on Hezbollah and Iran.

I'm not worried about the post-Assad Syria at all, the GCC, Jordan, Egypt, Pakistan, and Turkey will put boots on the grounds as soon as he falls, containing them is an objective, it is just a matter of time.

Al-Qaeda-Iraian relations is well-known, however, There has been no evidence that could be used against Iran for having a relation with Al-Qaeda in Yemen. Usually, KSA does develop human-gathered intelligence, but they never confirmed or dismissed any allegations against Iran.
 
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I like our relations with KSA. They got money and we have the tech. Also a good regional partner. Go ahead !!!
 
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I think the National Guard might be interested in acquiring Altays and ANKAs of their own.

I find it a possibility that the SANG will be the one sent to Syria instead of the MoD.
 
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I think the National Guard might be interested in acquiring Altays and ANKAs of their own.

I find it a possibility that the SANG will be the one sent to Syria instead of the MoD.

Why is that? Is the SANG more "expeditionary" because it's the King's force?
 
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Why is that? Is the SANG more "expeditionary" because it's the King's force?

All Saudi Armed Forces are the King's Force, but the national guard is a more light infantry fast attack type of force while the Army is more heavy tanks and armor kind of force.
 
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All Saudi Armed Forces are the King's Force, but the national guard is a more light infantry fast attack type of force while the Army is more heavy tanks and armor kind of force.

Well in that case wouldn't it just be a better idea to send in the Army? Because while much cheaper to send in light infantry logistically speaking, the rebels provide plenty of that, though definitely not at the same level of quality.
 
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Well in that case wouldn't it just be a better idea to send in the Army? Because while much cheaper to send in light infantry logistically speaking, the rebels provide plenty of that, though definitely not at the same level of quality.

The national guard is urban area defense specialist, while the Army is open field conventional war specialist. The National Guard is better equipped and trained to fight in Urban areas, it is what they do, even their main service rifle is chosen because it is urban warfare designed.
 
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The national guard is urban area defense specialist, while the Army is open field conventional war specialist. The National Guard is better equipped and trained to fight in Urban areas, it is what they do, even their main service rifle is chosen because it is urban warfare designed.

Ah okay. You think the battle's going to be won in the cities, gotcha ;)
 
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Ah okay. You think the battle's going to be won in the cities, gotcha ;)

The National Guard has 3 training cities, yes cities full fledged cities with 4-6 neighborhoods each just to train in urban warfare. They also have a strong IFV and Tank hunting As well as howitzer capabilities. They also have 36 Apaches to their name as well as Mistral and Shaheen Air Defense equipment.

The army on the other hand trains for desert and mountain warfare, regarding the Air Force while the Air Force follows the MoD and national guard can also call in Air Strikes during war time with same level army access as the Army.

Currently the SANG is about 150,000 strong, a number not usually counted by many when factoring Saudi military capabilities.
 
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Promote Bilateral relations and Defence Cooperation, Of course.

This is great news that Turkey is finally getting close to its Muslim Neighbours.

I guess Erdogan decided to stop playing second fiddle to Europe and the West and realigned Turkey's Foreign Policy towards the Islamic World. We Pakistanis support Erdogan's Pivot towards its Muslim Neighbours wholeheartedly.

Welcome Turkey. Ahlan wa Sahlan wa Merhaba.....:D

With the discrimination Turkey had gone though over the years because of the EU, I don't think the EU deserves to be spoken to about it again.
 
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