Military Analysis: Face Bangladesh Army At Your Own Risk

[Arefin007]

You can read this: http://www.global.ucsb.edu/punjab/s...tefiles/journals/volume14/no1/14.1_Kamran.pdf.

Just completed reading it. I always thought that Urdu was chosen as national language for it being neutral. I was wrong. Punjabis were already fluent in it. A lot of my perspective has changed on the language issue. Thank you for the eye opener.

 

[Jobless Jack]

how long would it take for iaf to simply flatten the ports at khulna and chittgong and flatten dhaka and park the indian navy in bay of bengal ? less then a day. the govt will surrender with the destruction of the cities

without a proper airforce bangladesh's advantage is nothing in combat against india.
only with a proper airforce / air defense will bd be able to take advantage of the things mentioned in the article

 

[Bilal9]

Guys don't reply or tag trolls.

Especially false-flagger trolls spewing obvious Bangladesh-destruction/domination theories taught at RSS Sangh Shakhas.

how long would it take for iaf to simply flatten the ports at khulna and chittgong and flatten dhaka and park the indian navy in bay of bengal ? less then a day. the govt will surrender with the destruction of the cities

without a proper airforce bangladesh's advantage is nothing in combat against india.
only with a proper airforce / air defense will bd be able to take advantage of the things mentioned in the article

Yup everything will fall like dominoes and flatten like pancakes. Thanks for your input.

 

[Bhupendra Singh_Cyan]

If no military op is peaceful then we really did nothing wrong, we just did what anyone else would do. So thank you for admitting it.

That is the case. It was and is still enforced, people are still against it and guess what? We give them the same response we gave you, but they don't become gun toting animals.

In 1971 over the course of those several months you lost 3,000,000 people and we lost 9,000. If you consider that victory I dread to think what you consider defeat.

Oh and please your little monkey bag heads couldn't do sh!t until India came along. You might have been able to win eventually, but it would have been similar to how the Afghans beat the Soviets. We would have retreated, not surrendered.

Comparison of 3 million civilians with some weapon holders aka mukti bahani with a trained Pakistan army.
God knows why you Pakistani are made fun of it international arena now.
Atleast you are accepting you killed 3, million of them unlike some where else you might say only 1 lakh got killed etc.

 

[danger007]

Your assumption is that India will have such freedom of operation.

My assumption is that BD forces would have certain plan of action. BA philosophy is that Indian forces would be met in Indian territory and it would be imperative to establish a supply route to china and the chicken neck is the obvious choice.

Missiles... what will you hit? Military installation.... fine. Point is India is not strong enough to hold BD.

Bacterialogical weapons against a neighbour... I will leave that with you to ponder on your own.

India does not have a free hand to operate as it chooses. BD will have its responses as will china and Pakistan. Off course the latter won't intervene but if shilguri corridor falls there will be nothing to stop china rolling into Indian territory from the east.

As I said in a war events can not be controlled. India does not have any friends and it is too weak to prosecute any war or invasion. 1971 won't be repeated as the people of Bangladesh would be against you. You should look to your experience in srilanka where your misadventure was thwarted by a tiny guarilla army....

Don't you think your brain exaggerating lot? India doesn't have power to hold on. Are you kidding.. BD armed forces are nothing but joke in front of India and Pakistan. Conventionally India can over run Pakistan but with heavy losses on both sides... We fought 4 wars.. you don't have an navy nor the air force.. do you think, you guys can take NE... people in Assam and nagaland will slaughter.. IIndia doesn't have friends are you sure about that... I rather send kids drones with diwali crackers into BD than MKI or Mig 29 or M25... sending these birds to into your territory is an insult..

 

[Michael Corleone]

It what shit?

east bengal regiment... formed by the british during ww2... they are the people who successfully prevented the japanese invasion of india and stopped the japs at burma... despite the theory of these men being inferior .... they proved themselves both in ww2... the indo pak war of 65 and 71.

 

[Avicenna]

Hey I would advise the Bangladeshis on here to temper their thoughts of the BD military having any sort of significant capability.

At the same time, a strong BD military is not out of the realm of reality.

We are fortunate that the situation currently allows BD to focus on things that not militarily related.

The economy, infrastructure and development are key.

Remember independence was 1971. That's a shorter timeline than the other two major states in the subcontinent.

I am optimistic that the inherent capabilities of Bangladeshis will allow the nation to flourish in the future only if we can approach things intelligently and work for the common good instead of having things be derailed by selfish interests such as corruption and the like.

As for the trolls.....f*ck off.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Initially,i respected you for being neutral but you are too biased and dumb who takes this personally.

India's war with China has what to do with Bangladesh?

Instead of telling me things about how and when why dont you instead post some of the great operations your Army has done in the past.

I can guarantee you that your BD Army personnel come to India on a regular basis for training.I have met many of them.

I dont mean to insult you,your race or your country in any way but Bangladesh doesnt have the Army to stop an Indian attack just like we cannot with US or China.

And it was you who made the claim of defeating India becoz bangladeshis were guerilla fighter..or martial people??

In the British Army also the bravest of the brave regtts are still with India like the Gurkhas,Rajputana,Sikhs!!

India doesnt want a war with you..and respect that fact because the reason is that your muscles dont bother us but we are peaceful.

India can roll over most of its neighbors including BD if it puts it full military might.


Naval blockade and AF bombing will be enough for you without putting a single soldiers life at risk if we were interested at all!!

well i still have been... i criticise mukhtis, paks and indians when appropriate with facts... it's that you have been jabbing me a lot.

i say that india's no.1 priority is china and pakistan... and bangladesh being friendlier towards them... it would be impossible for india to sustain war in many fronts... impossible for any/ most / all tbh

insurgency in chittagong hilltracts...
kilo flight
operation jackpot is the most daring and my favorite.. to name a few...
2004 era terrorist huntdowns
and many others...

the thing is we faced less threat maybe because our border isn't with an hostile nation... but we did deal with certain threats appropriately

i know bd military personnel go to india for excercise and indian personnel come here too... for some reason the SF excercises are conducted near to the border areas or in bd mainland... while the infantry excercises mostly in india... i guess that's just a coincidence

you can do whatever you want if you believe in it... the vietnamese people didn't give up... they kept fighting until america gave up... i am sure your people can too if such a situation arises. only thing you need is hope and believe.

nah nah... i didn't or you might have had the wrong impression... the reason i put forward as to why a conventional land warfare is impossible in bd is becasue of effective use of climate... tactics and guerrilla warfare.

india, pakistan and bangladesh have actually inherited a lot of skill, honor, praise and respect... i sometimes wonder... how strong would this army be if the nation was one and never divided? but then ofc... we saw their bravery and skills because they divided.

bd doesn't want a war either... just stop seeing us as hostile... we never advocate the use of war, but we always say... we won't let our heads down if external threat is met... we won't wage war against any nation... but any nation who dares to against us will have a tough time.... this is our principle.

again... you're not fighting (if you guys create such a situation... as e won't ever wage war according to our policy) 3 patrol boats and over arrogant men of 1971 who thought 1 of them is equal to 13 of the indians.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

This entire thread is very childish. I do not see a situation where there can be a war between BD and India. As the adage goes democracies do not go to war against one another. However having said that without doubt BD has a plan for such an eventuality and has always planned for it.

A war is fought on many stages beyond the battlefield. BD recognises it faces an enemy in India that is many times larger. As such we have sought alliances with global powers that stands against India. This was so post Mujib through to the 90's where BD aligned itself with US. As US itself has realigned itself after the collapse of USSR by closing ranks with India BD has smoothly shifted to an alliance with China.

BD has specifically ensured it is part of the global economy and has vast linkages accross economic, social, diplomatic, people to people, educational arena. These soft linkages will have their part to play.

BD from its perspective will seek to avoid any conflict but will fight if needed should it deem the situation to be an existential crisis.

BD planners would have run various model and have war gamed many scenario but the gist in my opinion is as follows:

BA - Will shoulder the entire responsibility for the war. Their first aim would be to take the chicken neck and establish a corridor between BD and china. The secondary objective would be to pacify seven sisters. It is likely the first objective would be difficult to achieve but seven sisters will fall. BD will face a one front war.

BA would expect the politicians and the world bodies to agree deescalation means by this point, as any advantage would be short lived as BA would not want to be holding any Indian territory in the long run

Ultimately one would expect India to move into BD proper as BA fall back probably everywhere except the shilguri corridor to keep IA occupied and keeping a supply route open.
BA would fall into standard people resistance mode which is our primary strategy.

India will defeat BA formally on its soil but once in BD they will not be able to control it. They will bleed for every inch of BD and for every day they stay. There will be no victory for IA. BA won't be surrendering like the PA which essentially at that point was a foreign force.

BAF - will have a very short window where it would have operational freedom given IAF numbers. BAF will be have several days at maximum. Their primary effort would be to do as much damage as the can to Indian assets in the BoB and in the seven sisters state. They will provide as much support as possible to the BA and then seek to fly and escape to china. Our transport asset would relocate with the heads of service to Malaysia and Indonesia as per arrangements that exists from the Pakistan era.


BN- will do what it can to damage IN and whilst it will remain operational for weeks it will not be able to hold the line. Like the BAF it will disengage to save the assets by sailing to safe ports east.

From an Indian perspective a conflict with BD derives no benefit. First whilst it can win the initial battles it can not do so without reducing its strength in other potential theatres of war where they face enemies like china who are significant more stronger than India or Pakistan where they are on par. Reducing assets there significantly reduces indias overall security.

Secondly if they are able to establish any territorial control which is doubtful.... the losses would be significant and continuous to hold a country of 170m. It takes a half of Indian forces to keep Kashmir with negligible population.

India is not US it's not even Russia, BD is not Crimea. We have a solid foundation as a nation and against external foes the internal political differences will vanish. India has not cultivated friends in the region. It was successful in 1971 because the people of BD desired independence. A war against BD Indian forces will face BD forces and its people with singular purpose to thwart its ambitions.

There is no scenario where a conflict leaves BD or India in a better position so it will not happen.

BD can survive a war with India and come out the other side whatever happens. For India it needs to be a a short sharp war, if it becomes one of occupation like USSR in Afghanistan it will end the Indian union as the cost in money and manpower it can not afford.

A war takes a lot of effort and without clear strategy and goals one should not entertain such moves. One can very rarely control events once it's in motion. Bonafide global powers have always been defeated by people's army and the story is always the same.... an invader can not stand long when the people are united.... in this instance the difference in power that India can bring to the BD theatre whilst keeping china and Pakistan in bay is not that much. Victory even rudimentary for India is not certain.

IAF has the number?..So which plane in your AF can last several days against SU-30MKI and Rafale?Coz i was trying to think in terms of a war game and i dont think it can last even 12 hours to be honest.

Cruise missiles and Anti airfield weapons would be rocking BD in the first few hours.Followed by taking out other infrastructure.

Since we are the bad guys in the situation let us use all our evil might properly.

Squadrons and Squadrons of SU-30 and rafale will be flying over BD..followed by attack helicopters.SF would be destroying SAM sites.

Naval blocade,hitting electric powerhouse, destroying dams and other infra would ensure the super duper Bengali sunderban viking or Spartan doesnt fight with a full stomach.

Then comes the objective..Why did we attack?

If it was to teach a lesson..Objective completed!!

If it was to rule the country then excuse me..who are you?..Oil rich Iraq or kuwait?You are an overpopulated country which is a mess for us AND THERE IS NOTHING TO GAIN AT ALL.

well i still have been... i criticise mukhtis, paks and indians when appropriate with facts... it's that you have been jabbing me a lot.

i say that india's no.1 priority is china and pakistan... and bangladesh being friendlier towards them... it would be impossible for india to sustain war in many fronts... impossible for any/ most / all tbh

insurgency in chittagong hilltracts...
kilo flight
operation jackpot is the most daring and my favorite.. to name a few...
2004 era terrorist huntdowns
and many others...

the thing is we faced less threat maybe because our border isn't with an hostile nation... but we did deal with certain threats appropriately

i know bd military personnel go to india for excercise and indian personnel come here too... for some reason the SF excercises are conducted near to the border areas or in bd mainland... while the infantry excercises mostly in india... i guess that's just a coincidence

you can do whatever you want if you believe in it... the vietnamese people didn't give up... they kept fighting until america gave up... i am sure your people can too if such a situation arises. only thing you need is hope and believe.

nah nah... i didn't or you might have had the wrong impression... the reason i put forward as to why a conventional land warfare is impossible in bd is becasue of effective use of climate... tactics and guerrilla warfare.

india, pakistan and bangladesh have actually inherited a lot of skill, honor, praise and respect... i sometimes wonder... how strong would this army be if the nation was one and never divided? but then ofc... we saw their bravery and skills because they divided.

bd doesn't want a war either... just stop seeing us as hostile... we never advocate the use of war, but we always say... we won't let our heads down if external threat is met... we won't wage war against any nation... but any nation who dares to against us will have a tough time.... this is our principle.

again... you're not fighting (if you guys create such a situation... as e won't ever wage war according to our policy) 3 patrol boats and over arrogant men of 1971 who thought 1 of them is equal to 13 of the indians.

Good to know your thought my friend.

I dont think BD deserves a war after seeing so much in late 60s till 71.

Peace and prosperity is the way and you have a bigger threat than India ie extremism to deal with just like us.

 

[Avicenna]

IAF has the number?..So which plane in your AF can last several days against SU-30MKI and Rafale?Coz i was trying to think in terms of a war game and i dont think it can last even 12 hours to be honest.

Cruise missiles and Anti airfield weapons would be rocking BD in the first few hours.Followed by taking out other infrastructure.

Since we are the bad guys in the situation let us use all our evil might properly.

Squadrons and Squadrons of SU-30 and rafale will be flying over BD..followed by attack helicopters.SF would be destroying SAM sites.

Naval blocade,hitting electric powerhouse, destroying dams and other infra would ensure the super duper Bengali sunderban viking or Spartan doesnt fight with a full stomach.

Then comes the objective..Why did we attack?

If it was to teach a lesson..Objective completed!!

If it was to rule the country then excuse me..who are you?..Oil rich Iraq or kuwait?You are an overpopulated country which is a mess for us AND THERE IS NOTHING TO GAIN AT ALL.


Good to know your thought my friend.

I dont think BD deserves a war after seeing so much in late 60s till 71.

Peace and prosperity is the way and you have a bigger threat than India ie extremism to deal with just like us.

Yea I agree with the above.

 

[Michael Corleone]

IAF has the number?..So which plane in your AF can last several days against SU-30MKI and Rafale?Coz i was trying to think in terms of a war game and i dont think it can last even 12 hours to be honest.

Cruise missiles and Anti airfield weapons would be rocking BD in the first few hours.Followed by taking out other infrastructure.

Since we are the bad guys in the situation let us use all our evil might properly.

Squadrons and Squadrons of SU-30 and rafale will be flying over BD..followed by attack helicopters.SF would be destroying SAM sites.

Naval blocade,hitting electric powerhouse, destroying dams and other infra would ensure the super duper Bengali sunderban viking or Spartan doesnt fight with a full stomach.

Then comes the objective..Why did we attack?

If it was to teach a lesson..Objective completed!!

If it was to rule the country then excuse me..who are you?..Oil rich Iraq or kuwait?You are an overpopulated country which is a mess for us AND THERE IS NOTHING TO GAIN AT ALL.


Good to know your thought my friend.

I dont think BD deserves a war after seeing so much in late 60s till 71.

Peace and prosperity is the way and you have a bigger threat than India ie extremism to deal with just like us.

tbh fighting extremism should be the number 1 goal of countries of this region as all of us are affected by it... however i don't see india and pakistan working towards this cause because they wont let go of their past... just like us bangladeshis.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

tbh fighting extremism should be the number 1 goal of countries of this region as all of us are affected by it... however i don't see india and pakistan working towards this cause because they wont let go of their past... just like us bangladeshis.

True..there are more chances of you and me dying of a terrorists bullet than dying of a Bangladeshis or Indian soldiers bullet.

Its sad the entire world has become so unsafe.

 

[Avicenna]

That being said, I think if and only if the economy continues to improve, BD can drastically improve its military capabilities.

I would assume the objective would be:

A sembelenace of deterence for India.

An ability to succefully engage any hostile activity by Myanmar.

Protection of the EEZ.

A small modern military with improved training would be able to fulfill that especially combined with the inherent jungle characteristics of the Bangladesh landscape which would probably be beneficial in defending the homeland in case of invasion.

The above is just the most general of rationals for a sovereign nation such as Bangladesh for maintaining a military.

 

[Shajida Khan]

well i still have been... i criticise mukhtis, paks and indians when appropriate with facts... it's that you have been jabbing me a lot.

i say that india's no.1 priority is china and pakistan... and bangladesh being friendlier towards them... it would be impossible for india to sustain war in many fronts... impossible for any/ most / all tbh

insurgency in chittagong hilltracts...
kilo flight
operation jackpot is the most daring and my favorite.. to name a few...
2004 era terrorist huntdowns
and many others...

the thing is we faced less threat maybe because our border isn't with an hostile nation... but we did deal with certain threats appropriately

i know bd military personnel go to india for excercise and indian personnel come here too... for some reason the SF excercises are conducted near to the border areas or in bd mainland... while the infantry excercises mostly in india... i guess that's just a coincidence

you can do whatever you want if you believe in it... the vietnamese people didn't give up... they kept fighting until america gave up... i am sure your people can too if such a situation arises. only thing you need is hope and believe.

nah nah... i didn't or you might have had the wrong impression... the reason i put forward as to why a conventional land warfare is impossible in bd is becasue of effective use of climate... tactics and guerrilla warfare.

india, pakistan and bangladesh have actually inherited a lot of skill, honor, praise and respect... i sometimes wonder... how strong would this army be if the nation was one and never divided? but then ofc... we saw their bravery and skills because they divided.

bd doesn't want a war either... just stop seeing us as hostile... we never advocate the use of war, but we always say... we won't let our heads down if external threat is met... we won't wage war against any nation... but any nation who dares to against us will have a tough time.... this is our principle.

again... you're not fighting (if you guys create such a situation... as e won't ever wage war according to our policy) 3 patrol boats and over arrogant men of 1971 who thought 1 of them is equal to 13 of the indians.

The million dollar question is still there, why will India like to occupy BD? BD has no oil, BD has no uranium etc. In case of war with China, BD's ports if they were offering support to Chinese warship will be put out of commission pretty fast with missile and air attacks.

 

[asad71]

There is an interesting story about 1965 that Bangladeshis like to tell every now and then, that the Bengali soldiers jumped in front of the Indian tanks with mines in hand. I would like to know about it more. I guess @asad71 will be able to tell us and also clarify the following post about khemkaran

That may be a bit of exaggeration. However, Bengalis fought bravely for Pakistan and Islam in 1948, Op Gibraltar and 1965 War. In fact many did so in 1971 in W Pak also. For instance Maj Rahman, FF had won his second SJ in Kashmir - posthumously this time. 1 E Bengal, deployed in Luliani, Bediani had emerged as the most decorated PA unit in the war.