"Sources told The News that Sufi Muhammad’s release was ensured after it was agreed that he would not speak against the state, Constitution and law-enforcement agencies. The government did not challenge the release order."
"Sufi Muhammad was charged with sedition as he had termed the government, Constitution of Pakistan and the judicial system un-Islamic. He had also allegedly criticised the state of Pakistan."
Both seem to have grievances against constitution of Pakistan, based on their religious beliefs.
You may take a position to tell me that how one is a terrorist and other is peaceful oppressed minority, but the fact remains, both of them share very much similar beliefs for daily life.
The Mormons have done almost the exact same thing in the US and the 'heavens' have not fallen on mainstream Christianity. This is not 'identity theft' any more than the Shia & Sunni accusing each other of 'identity theft' In fact the ideology behind Daesh uses the same types of arguments to declare the Shia 'Kafir' & justify their massacre under 'Quran & Sunnah'.
The Mormons, Christians, Jews, Atheists, Martians, Hindus ...... are irrelevant, there is no similarity between them and this case, their actions and solutions don't set a benchmark for us.
Shia and Sunni don't have a case of identity theft, but disagreement on history of Islam after Messenger Muhammad Peace be upon him. They have no disagreement over who is the last Messenger, but how the companions of Messenger acted after him. Both are sects.
Massacre under Quran & Sunnah (if Sunnah means actions of Messenger Muhammad only and not the sayings related to him) are easy to debunk, under Quran and Sunnah. Quran doesn't permit killing of any human except in case of war and there are very clear conditions laid down in Quran for that war to happen.
At its core this is a theological dispute and the government has no place adjudicating theological disputes. Mainstream Muslims are free to, privately, hold conferences, seminars & perform Tabligh attacking the Ahmadi faith. My point is merely that the government should not be involved in this.
So state should remain mum in case of Daesh justify their acts and speech under Quran & Hear Say? State should let Shia Sunni label each other? State should remain irrelevant to who occupies illegal land for construction of big medrassa and masjid? State should not worry about the number of mosques owned by various sects opened in the same locality?
Islamic state cannot ignore Quran. And Quran only is the solution to division and hatred created by us. Either call yourself Islamic or draft an unIslamic constitution for once and get rid of this confusion.
There is no space for Muslims in Islam to privately hold conferences, seminars and attack other faiths. Recently I heard Dr Arif Alvi where he quoted “The Covenant of the Prophet with the Monks of Mount Sinai” signed and stamped by Messenger Muhammad Peace be upon him,
"It was about this time [after the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah] that the Prophet granted to the monks of the Monastery of St. Catherine, near Mount Sinai, his liberal charter by which they secured for the Christians noble and generous privileges and immunities. He undertook himself and enjoined his followers, to protect the Christians, to defend their churches and the residences of their priests and to guard them from all injuries. They were not to be unfairly taxed; no bishop was to be driven out of his diocese; nor Christian was to be forced to reject his religion; no monk was to be expelled from his Monastery; no pilgrim was to be stopped from his pilgrimage; nor were the Christian churches to be pulled down for the sake of building mosques or houses for the Muslims. Christian women married to Muslims were to enjoy their own religion and not to be subjected to compulsion or annoyance of any kind. If the Christians should stand in need of assistance for the repair of their churches or monasteries, or any other matter pertaining to their religion, the Muslims were to assist them. This was not to be considered as supporting their religion, but as simply rendering them assistance in special circumstances. Should the Muslims be engaged in hostilities with outside Christians, no Christian resident among the Muslims should be treated with contempt on account of his creed. The Prophet declared that any Muslim violating any clause of the charter should be regarded as a transgressor of Allah’s commandments, a violator of His testament and neglectful of His faith. (np)"
Link to one of the souces for extract above.
This is what an Islamic state does and this is how its leader acts. Good luck with separating Islam from a state and country that hardly practices it.
Qadiyani hazraat should take the lead and come public with a statement that they don't believe in Mr Ghulam Ahmed Mirza to be a prophet but Imam Mehdi (who is a fictional character anyways). That way they would become a sect. Though sectarianism in pure Islam has no place but in today's times there is no hope and this remains the only solution.
Or else they can drop calling themselves Muslims and let ALLAH decide it for them.
No my friend ... It is not a case of identity theft by a minority ... it Rather is a case of the Majority infringing on the right to self-identification/personal religious identity of the minority, and refusing them equal rights as the citizens of the state ....
No my friend it's a case where a minority is hell bent on calling themselves something which they are not, without any reasonable grounds, evidence and rationale. Stubbornness to accept it in public and let everyone live in peace. They themselves can't leave it to ALLAH but want other party to leave it to ALLAH.
I had mentioned to my dear friend that we don't want to put our Qadiyani friends in difficult situation(s), they don't have answers to the right questions. For example (this also relates to blasphemy debates we had)
(33:6)
"Surely the Nabi has a greater claim over the believers than they have over each other .................. "
[33:6] "The Nabi is closer to the believers than they are to each other,.............."
Who is superior in eyes of our Qadiyani friends. The Messenger Muhammad Peace be upon Him, His Caliphs and companions .... OR ..... Their Messiah Mr Ghulam Ahmed Mirza, and his caliphs and companions?
At worst they are non Muslims, at best they are a sect ........ If Mr Ghulam Ahmed Mirza is not considered a prophet by them, even then he is guilty of division amongst Muslims in times when they needed unity. We call such people who are responsible for division as Khariji (the ones who exit the unity) and punishment for such people would have been .........
