Max G turn rate (approx.) JF-17 14.4 deg/s vs F-16 13.33 deg/s

[Dazzler]

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[CriticalThought]

Actually they've done some tweaking to the engine without a doubt. Also, there was one display where thunder completed the full turn in less than 20 seconds.

I remember in the Paris airshow, at the very beginning the commentator noted the black smoke. They should definitely send it back to Paris next time around.

You see as they say on some forums, it might drop a wing or both, or the engine if pushed harder. It's made of third grade materials so we take caution.

I am quite sure people on those forums are burning hot with jealousy.

But I am curious about this display that @MarvellousThunder@PDC is talking about. When? Where? Will there be a video?

 

[Dazzler]

how come we never seen any video of JF 17 doing better...ever?

You see as they say on some forums, it might drop a wing or both, or the engine if pushed harder. It's made of third grade materials so we take caution.

 

[CriticalThought]

Paris Airshow

From 19 to 25 June 2017

https://www.siae.fr/en/

I hope they attend...

 

[Dazzler]

very very soon and HD video


what u r saying is true or just sarcasm ?

It's true ;(
All parts and joints are made from low quality adhesives and plastics.
can't u let a person have some fun

 

[WarFariX]

It's true ;(
All parts and joints are made from low quality adhesives and plastics.
can't u let a person have some fun

phir dobara sarcasm

 

[Panther 57]

Looking forward to the day when ACM will sit in JF-17B and lead the fly past. That will be the day when officially the reign of F-16 will be over.

Still couple of things to iron out. I guess i can say that much only.

 

[krash]

Well I think I shared a commet before you can buy "Anti Oil burning" chemical agents that prevent oil to burn with fuel and only fuel is burned thus producing no smoke

People use it all time for cars mixed together with oil and added in vehicles , not pretty much the effect is same for Jet Engines as fuel/oil are still used in Jet Engines

Not sure if such chemicals are readily used in Pakistan or Asia
Sold for like 1 buck per bottle effects lasts for 2-3 months normally done together with oil change

The smoke that you see behind a jet engine is not from oil being burnt, instead it's from the incomplete combustion of the fuel itself.

 

[Cool_Soldier]

JF17-B.......appearance....?

 

[messiach]

It does not indicate inefficient engine cycle. It is because of the inherent design of the USSR lo-hi compressor - primary combustor assembly. The air & fuel are mixed and burnt in combustor, a over-richer mixture is easily ignitable and maintainable like diesel under pressure ignition, avoiding chances of flame-outs. That causes generation of particulate matter as black smoke. It only indicates variation in fuel/air ratio below stoichrometrics avoiding turbine meltdown. This is 727,737,DC9 era technology, still relevant today. P&W then introduced the smokeless combustor assembly.

The smoke that you see behind a jet engine is not from oil being burnt, instead it's from the incomplete combustion of the fuel itself.

 

[Thorough Pro]

because you people are blinded by eternal jealousy and darkness in your hearts

how come we never seen any video of JF 17 doing better...ever?

 

[Arsalan]

how come we never seen any video of JF 17 doing better...ever?

Because you lost your eyesight waiting to see a LCA flying!!

Ankhain pathraa gai intezaar mein!!

Feel sorry for you.

 

[CriticalThought]

Because you lost your eye side waiting to see a LCA flying!!

Feel sorry for you.

Good one!

 

[tarrar]

JF17 will keep improving with the passage of time & new upgrades will come for previous version of JF17 when JF17 blk3 roles out.

Because you lost your eyesight waiting to see a LCA flying!!

Ankhain pathraa gai intezaar mein!!

Feel sorry for you.

Don't waste your time with such fools.

 

[Arsalan]

As mentioned, this is most probably because those Facebooks experts saw the video of the plane with less visible smoke and decided that this can be a reason enough to start claiming that the engine is a new one and that there is some friend of there friends friend who actually invented that engine.

If we come back to real world, we do know that JF17 is being test flown with WS13 but do you people here think, ANY ONE OF YOU, that flying the plane with an under evaluation engine that have not been inducted and thus not mastered upon as yet on the most important air display of the year make any remote sense? I do not think it does!! If someone here thinks that it makes any sense please do help me understand it as well. Till then, for me, this new engine theory is based on a simple observation that there was little smoke visible and some fanboys though they have acquired bragging rights just as they have made this all important "observation" about smoke!!

@Zarvan just to confirm, NO the JF17 at the 23 March parade where NOT with WS13. You sources/friends jut based that claim on an observation regarding how the engines produced lesser smoke. NO TRUTH IN THIS. I hope you will believe this and we wont be seeing this reference of new engine on every single tread. AGAIN, the JF 17 was carrying the same engine. Just to be extra sure, look at some of the pictures of the JF17 demonstration and observe the exhaust nozzles, you will realize (i hope so) that these are all same.