'Match made in heaven,' says Netanyahu as India-Israel sign 7 pacts

[Zhukov]

Can a Pakistani ever think beyond religion? Pathetic

What else is the point of this Israel India love affair except religion?
Whats so special about Israel?
England France Germany Japan Sweden South Korea Australia Canada
What these countries dont have that israel have except sheer venomous enemity toward Islam and Muslims?
France is way way way ahead of Israel in Military and civil technology. Why isnt France holy mate of India?
Hell why not even USA?

Kindly dont reply me with your Pathetic "India is always right" Implicational reply.

Tell me exactly what i asked. What makes Israel different from other developed technological powers except enemity toward Muslims.
And dont lecture me on Good terms of india will all countries. Specify the reason of these close ties.

 

[T-72]

The reference you showed from Quran is the answer to your question itself.

yep, "strive hard" against the disbelievers, yes ?

 

[Zen0]

What else is the point of this Israel India love affair except religion?
Whats so special about Israel?
England France Germany Japan Sweden South Korea Australia Canada
What these countries dont have that israel have except sheer venomous enemity toward Islam and Muslims?
France is way way way ahead of Israel in Military and civil technology. Why isnt France holy mate of India?
Hell why not even USA?

Kindly dont reply me with your Pathetic "India is always right" Implicational reply.

Tell me exactly what i asked. What makes Israel different from other developed technological powers except enemity toward Muslims.
And dont lecture me on Good terms of india will all countries. Specify the reason of these close ties.

Israel is a defense hub they make the best drones , weapons money can buy.

and its a economic goldmine , literally second to silicon valley. They are itching to pore billions in investment to India to tap into our 1.2 billion populations consumer market.


Considering India is the silicon vally of asia , there is a lot to be gained.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Dear India, we want your blood and by the grace of God we will get it. : )

Don't pull god into your petty business. Allah is above your puny mind.

 

[Azadkashmir]

India sells its independence to Israel.
From the cow becomes Rabbi.

both worship the golden cow.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Seems you are talking here about Abdullah bin Ubai , when he changed his ranks along with 300 fighters and showed his true colors.

Oppressors were not forgiven during that time by the Supreme Creator and even now the oppressors will be not spared , when they are misusing the technology and making life hell in Darul Harb.

In Darul Islam and Darul Aaman , things will not be same and human rights violators will not be spared in any of our nations including United States of America.

I am Talking about the Tribes like Banu Qurza and others who betrayed the Prophet and break their Treaty After the Constitution of Madina was mutually signed .

Nice try...not everyone views the world through the lens of identity. Jews, gentiles, kuffar, etc. mean little if you wish to disassociate yourself from these.

You can ask Jews about it , We Muslims believe Idol Worshipers and Atheists are Sinners but we don't call them or consider them as Animals or savage or not our equals .. they might not have Iman ( faith ) , but they are as equal Human being as we are according to Islam but Judaism has a different approach , even their morning prayer say something serious about Women if you read it

that may be true
individual Israelis appreciate the fact they can visit India as tourists. It is the only large state they can visit in the region

The enemy of my Enemy is my Friend

 

[Jacob Martin]

You can ask Jews about it , We Muslims believe Idol Worshipers and Atheists are Sinners but we don't call them or consider them as Animals or savage or not our equals .. they might not have Iman ( faith ) , but they are as equal Human being as we are according to Islam but Judaism has a different approach , even their morning prayer say something serious about Women if you read it

Suras 2:65, 5:60, and 7:166...apes and pigs


And you surely know about the context of the phrases ‘those who have incurred your wrath” and “those who have gone astray” : Surah 2:61 and Surah 4:44 respectively.

This is no place to play hide-the-ball with the articles of faith. Unless, of course, you either reject them or put them in the correct context.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Suras 2:65, 5:60, and 7:166...

This is no place to play hide-the-ball with the articles of faith. Unless, of course, you either reject them or put them in the correct context.

every single Sura in Quran been Debunked specially the one's talk about War or Violence .. i am not here to lecture you on that, its easy to find on Google or Youtube ..

 

[wiseone2]

The enemy of my Enemy is my Friend

I do not consider Pakistan and Israel enemies despite public pretenses

 

[Jacob Martin]

every single Sura in Quran been Debunked specially the one's talk about War or Violence .. i am not here to lecture you on that, its easy to find on Google or Youtube ..

Good, then get in with the reformation project if you really believe that. You would do more good talking to fellow Muslims about these things than to others.

However, If you try and append such stuff as how the Jews hate gentiles etc., I doubt it will do much good. There is a real challenge of countering hate among millions of Muslims and you should be focused on that project, and not on what 20-25 million Jews think.

 

[YeBeWarned]

I do not consider Pakistan and Israel enemies despite public pretenses

I don't either , but as the bitterness existed between Pakistan and Israel for Obvious reasons , India and Israel see this as opportunity , India Hate Pakistan, we have WARS together , Israel Fought with Arabs and Pakistan fight besides them , they see Pakistan as Threat or at least Future Threat .. so milking India is quite understandable

 

[The Sandman]

What is going on in this thread? @waz @The Eagle people are quoting Quranic verses completely out of context to suite their agenda calling our founding father crook? can't you guys ban these people? already reported them.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Good, then get in with the reformation project if you really believe that. You would do more good talking to fellow Muslims about these things than to others.

However, If you try and append such stuff as how the Jews hate gentiles etc., I doubt it will do much good. There is a real challenge of countering hate among millions of Muslims and you should be focused on that project, and not on what 20-25 million Jews think.

I am doing it , I posted it and in fact a Indian member Posted a verse from Quran that how its say that we should not take Jews and Christians as FRIENDS , those who are Zualimun .. so its so brilliant that how Allah has asked us Muslims to be careful of those Zalimun Jews and Christians and don't make them friends as they will bite you in the back .. and if you see around what is happening , you can see how things turned out for Muslims who take Christians and Jews who are Zalimun as their Friends ..

as for Reformation the lectures, logic , speeches are there, those who are lost cause no one can help them ( AQ/ISIS/TTP ) kind , their logic is simple anyone who isn't us is our enemy and they kill them, Isn't it true in case of them ? you argue and they kill you , you make peace with them they kill you , you don't do anything they kill you, you fight they kill you , you are Muslim , Kaffir , Jews , Christian , whatever they kill you .. and i doubt that Quran has on any occasion say that kill em all so no one actually lives to see the other day ..

as for Jews and what their position on Gentiles is very simple and clear , for us Non Believers are sinner but we don't consider them as inferior or like Animals .. there is a difference .. my focus is that world see the peace, i don't care if a Jew takes the lead or Muslim but thing is Jew think that all non Jewish ( gentiles )Are as equal as Animals, how you want to deal with that ? that is even in their scripture .

 

[faithfulguy]

This is more like a rip off made in heaven.

Israel will rip off India and India will thank them.

 

[Jacob Martin]

I am doing it , I posted it and in fact a Indian member Posted a verse from Quran that how its say that we should not take Jews and Christians as FRIENDS , those who are Zualimun .. so its so brilliant that how Allah has asked us Muslims to be careful of those Zalimun Jews and Christians and don't make them friends as they will bite you in the back .. and if you see around what is happening , you can see how things turned out for Muslims who take Christians and Jews who are Zalimun as their Friends ..

as for Reformation the lectures, logic , speeches are there, those who are lost cause no one can help them ( AQ/ISIS/TTP ) kind , their logic is simple anyone who isn't us is our enemy and they kill them, Isn't it true in case of them ? you argue and they kill you , you make peace with them they kill you , you don't do anything they kill you, you fight they kill you , you are Muslim , Kaffir , Jews , Christian , whatever they kill you .. and i doubt that Quran has on any occasion say that kill em all so no one actually lives to see the other day ..

as for Jews and what their position on Gentiles is very simple and clear , for us Non Believers are sinner but we don't consider them as inferior or like Animals .. there is a difference .. my focus is that world see the peace, i don't care if a Jew takes the lead or Muslim but thing is Jew think that all non Jewish ( gentiles )Are as equal as Animals, how you want to deal with that ? that is even in their scripture .

Good to hear your views. You are obviously intelligent and compassionate. So it won't be difficult for you to understand that just as Islam has gone through interpretation and reformation, so has Judaism. In fact, of all the religions, Judaism has the largest proportion of adherents who do not take their scriptures literally. Those Jews should be your friends and collaborators; don't waste your energy butting heads with them.

As for understanding any scripture, the context is all important. The Indian member who you are referring to may not have known either context or interpretation, and made the mistake of taking the verses literally. It is our duty, in the interest of the greater good, to inform such people. Maybe he won't listen, but others reading it will surely understand and learn.

I am in the middle of writing an article about Islamic Jurisprudence, as I think it is one of the most relevant subjects about which people are extremely ill-informed. Interpretation is everything, and people should be aware of the various schools of interpretation that Islam allows, giving rise to a diversity of belief among its followers.

What is going on in this thread? @waz @The Eagle people are quoting Quranic verses completely out of context to suite their agenda calling our founding father crook? can't you guys ban these people? already reported them.

No one is posting anything out of context, relax. We are just having a friendly discussion.