Manzoor Pashteen: The voice of Pashtuns for many in Pakistan - aljazeera

[H!TchHiker]

There is no local government in FATA. That will happen once FATA reforms are approved.

FC and levis can do the better job well aware of local customs and mostly are recruited from same region..Army should not do this policing job

 

[Kabira]

this is what I am saying, TTP was not for Pushtun...

But Manzoor is using pashtun card. TTP were mostly pashtuns from Waziristan, must of the times they used to blow up in Peshawar killing other pashtuns. Since pashtuns are only ethnicity spread all over Pakistan, even in recent Raiwind blast 2-3 out of 9 people who died were pashtuns from FATA and KP. So chances are no matter where TTP strike in Pakistan some pashtun will get killed. They are not getting killed for being pashtun hence using ethnicity card is oxymoron.

For him pashtuns in army are not one of them. Looks like his definition of pashtun is someone on payroll of Afghanistan/India like himself.

 

[Pak-Americanos]

I swear this Al Jazeera bukhwas is no better then propaganda spewed by NK n that PissTv from iran. Pakistan should ban these terrorist channels and block their access from the internet. Even the US have blocked them. They only create n instigate turmoil with their reporting.

 

[ziaulislam]

But Manzoor is using pashtun card. TTP were mostly pashtuns from Waziristan

and some from punjab..
i thought there should be none from punjab given how far punjab is from the boarder and that pushtoon liveacross while punjabis dont..yet you see pretty decent number of punjabi talibans

where is the sympathy fro FC which nearly entirely pushtoon

 

[Winchester]

Here is his interview on Dawn News

Two things stand out

a) Pushtun soldiers and officers "hum me se nhe"

b) He didn't deny peddling Army behind APS theory and based his whole argument around video of a soldier......that soldier as the host pointed out was wanted in a murder case and absconded to join the Taliban in Afghanistan who use him for propaganda purposes.

Land mines are being cleared in SW but again those in the movement mentioning no where it was the TTP who laid out those mines. They are blaming the Army as of it is the Army who is using toy IEDs hence involved in killing Pushtun children, negating the fact that those IEDs were the biggest killers of our soldiers.

There will be missing persons obviously. Lets face it the dramatic decrease in terrorist attacks meant that thousands involved in militancy had to be "disappeared" and there is a chance that some will be innocent among them but we fought a full blown war. The organizers of PTM are however claiming the Army has abducted 1400 women.

Slowly a narrative is being built about Pushtun children and women not being safe from the Pakistan army. This is how you lay the groundwork for a rebellion in our region.

 

[Kabira]

and some from punjab..
i thought there should be none from punjab given how far punjab is from the boarder and that pushtoon liveacross while punjabis dont..yet you see pretty decent number of punjabi talibans

where is the sympathy fro FC which nearly entirely pushtoon

Yes from south punjab because of deoband/wahabi idiology which make them natural allies of taliban. Deoband are followers of political islam. Barelwis mostly care about prophet (PBUH) honour etc. Taliban used to target minority barelwi pashtuns in FATA though its not much known about it as people only payed attention to FATA shias.

 

[ziaulislam]

Yes from south punjab because of deoband/wahabi idiology which make them natural allies of taliban. Deoband are followers of political islam. Barelwis mostly care about prophet (PBUH) honour etc. Taliban used to target minority barelwi pashtuns in FATA though its not much known about it as people only payed attention to FATA shias.

there is constant fierce battle between shia pushttons and sunni pushtoons in some areas of FATA..most is now settled but things were very bad in orkazai and parachinar region

 

[django]

I wonder if folk like Manzoor or ANP ever condemn chauvinistic policies of Ghani and co against Tajiks of Afghanistan, remember the so-called satanic dossier which aimed to prevent non-Pashtuns from getting prominent posts in Afghan institutions, the hypocrisy of these ethno-fascist is despicable.

 

[Haris Mansoor]

1/3 army is pushtoons so your aurgument dies right there

No, no, no. it strengthen my argument of Pushtun being more Pakistani than other groups, even my father is serving in Army, and that's the reason I know what happens on ground level.

So you didn't listen the speeches ? or the people claim ? they claim all true and demanding to produce "8,000" lapta qabali men and "1400" women...

I haven't listen before, I am listening right now. for the "8000 lapta qabaili men" yes there are a lot of missing men I know but I don't know the number and for women, I haven't listen about missing women before.

 

[Haris Mansoor]

But Manzoor is using pashtun card. TTP were mostly pashtuns from Waziristan, must of the times they used to blow up in Peshawar killing other pashtuns. Since pashtuns are only ethnicity spread all over Pakistan, even in recent Raiwind blast 2-3 out of 9 people who died were pashtuns from FATA and KP. So chances are no matter where TTP strike in Pakistan some pashtun will get killed. They are not getting killed for being pashtun hence using ethnicity card is oxymoron.

For him pashtuns in army are not one of them. Looks like his definition of pashtun is someone on payroll of Afghanistan/India like himself.

Yes he can, he is a Pushtun, should he use Muhajir card or Punjabi card??? He is a Pushtun and rising voice for the rights of Pushtun, leave him for a sec, according to your definition, anyone who talk of Pushtun's right is on payroll of Afghanista/India???
What will you call Muslims in Indian Army??? are there no Kashmiri in Indian Army? what is your stance about them?

 

[Sheraz Patriot]

Salam, all seniors and everyone.
It is not fare to blame him and call him scumbag for what he says.
I am a Pakistani and Pashtun by ethnicity. My grandfather was one of the many suicide bombers in the Indo-Pakistani war to stop the indian tanks.
To call him an indian agent or a traitor is not fare as most of us do not know the situation on ground, they have the right to express their problems and sufferings.
We must acknowledge their sacrifices and respect them like all of other Pakistanis and do not add catalyst to the fire which is the main goal of our enemies. I respect our armed forces but we must all accept that there are some people who do not respect their job as a serviceman of our respectable forces.
I have personal experience at CMH Nowshera with two soldiers first misbehaving and then pointed gun at me.
The other incident of motorway police beaten by army men may be known to all.

 

[SherDil]

This Pashteen guy has nothing to do with Pakistani Pakhtuns, He's a stupid and scum and working in the hands of Achakzai aka famous Pro Afghani hound with Anti Pakistani Agenda.

 

[Mian Babban]

According to Manzoor ,PTM it is army who has killed and massacred APS kids...His movement was initially focused and right for justice of Naqeeb until hijacked by PKMAP and ANP..I supported his islamabad protest but now in his gathering the slogans are "Lawr or Bar", "Dhashatgardi k peechay wardi" while the subject is lost somewhere..1400 sa zaid qabaili women are missing ..I don't know who is feeding him with all this

Could be the females of Taliban.......Taliban before zarb-i-azab were demanding the release of their female family members.

 

[H!TchHiker]

Could be the females of Taliban.......Taliban before zarb-i-azab were demanding the release of their female family members.

I don't know , if such demand were made...TTP drafted a 15 points for pre-conditions as talked before zarb-e-azb that were published and handed over. There was not a single point where they demanded or even mention "that female or women are to be released or captured..."

 

[ziaulislam]

Here is his interview on Dawn News

Two things stand out

a) Pushtun soldiers and officers "hum me se nhe"

b) He didn't deny peddling Army behind APS theory and based his whole argument around video of a soldier......that soldier as the host pointed out was wanted in a murder case and absconded to join the Taliban in Afghanistan who use him for propaganda purposes.

Land mines are being cleared in SW but again those in the movement mentioning no where it was the TTP who laid out those mines. They are blaming the Army as of it is the Army who is using toy IEDs hence involved in killing Pushtun children, negating the fact that those IEDs were the biggest killers of our soldiers.

There will be missing persons obviously. Lets face it the dramatic decrease in terrorist attacks meant that thousands involved in militancy had to be "disappeared" and there is a chance that some will be innocent among them but we fought a full blown war. The organizers of PTM are however claiming the Army has abducted 1400 women.

Slowly a narrative is being built about Pushtun children and women not being safe from the Pakistan army. This is how you lay the groundwork for a rebellion in our region.

this is the difference between pakistani, british and India media
while pakistani media is anti state and will not even question valid point as you questioned, british media is kinda neutral and india media is prostate that it will even spin the most obvious things around

now its rating and pakistani people who fuel it, remeber that, so dont blame them..most media will twist news per their viewer wishes

now job is to discredit him or ignore him