Manufacturing Details Stall Franco-Indian MMCRA Negotiations

[Abingdonboy]

@Abingdonboy @sancho @DrSomnath999 pls comment on this news, can the deal get delayed beyond this fiscal???

It can be but it is highly unlikely it will IMHO.

 

[DrSomnath999]

One defense official suggested to AIN that if decisions are deferred beyond the election, the MMRCArequirement might be cut to around 60 aircraft as newer solutions–such as the Indo-Russian fifth-generation fighter aircraft, and unmanned combat air vehicles–become available.

Manufacturing Details Stall Franco-Indian MMCRA Negotiations | idrw.org

one word

My A$$

We all know FFGA would not be inducted before 2018.Still 5 more years left & watching the crash rate of mig 21 i hope only Su 30 Mki & mig 29 & mirage 2000 would only be left in indian skies.Meanwhile u never know what our neighbours have installed for us

@DrSomnath999 pls comment on this news, can the deal get delayed beyond this fiscal???

well i dont have a crystall ball which i can see future but
chances are slim that this year may not be signed ,But lets see What mr MMS does???
i wish they sign it

 

[Abingdonboy]

@arp2041
+ guys why are we all taking this news as gospel? This is from IDRW after all! Hardly the NYTs!



Read through their past articles and see how many of their nonsensical predications come to fruition.

And don't forget it will be this FINCAIL year ending March not this CALENDER year ending December. We are still a good 4 months away from the signing IMHO.


And let's not forget that this particular deal has been shadowed by media outlets across the world spelling doom and cancellation but each and every time these naysayers have been proven wrong.

 

[SinoChallenger]

J-20 will enter service before indian Rafale.

 

[Abingdonboy]

J-20 will enter service before indian Rafale.

Why set yourself up for a massive fall mate?

 

[conworldus]

Why set yourself up for a massive fall mate?

It is possible, just not likely. The MMRCA buy was proposed 12 years ago, and not even the contract is signed. After signing the contract, there would be few years to set up new production line as well as personnel training. The potentially Indian made Rafale would probably roll out near 2020 if India encounters any manufacturing problem. If the J-20 keeps progressing as it is, it might just enter service together with the Russian T-50.

 

[rahul_rao]

Yes Indian Kid will see for sure …What about yours…?

hmm let them show some nuisance then their kids will too see mmrca

 

[zaxcolix]

It is possible, just not likely. The MMRCA buy was proposed 12 years ago, and not even the contract is signed. After signing the contract, there would be few years to set up new production line as well as personnel training. The potentially Indian made Rafale would probably roll out near 2020 if India encounters any manufacturing problem. If the J-20 keeps progressing as it is, it might just enter service together with the Russian T-50.

conworld / SinoChallenger .....is it true that the chinese eats pigs ?

 

[Sergi]

Anybody interested in Rumers the current rumer mill say the contract will be signed in the last week of Feb or first week of March.
---- source long ears

 

[zaxcolix]

Anybody interested in Rumers the current rumer mill say the contract will be signed in the last week of Feb or first week of March.
---- source long ears

....before financial year end would be the obvious guess.

 

[conworldus]

conworld / SinoChallenger .....is it true that the chinese eats pigs ?

I prefer beef. It is high protein. Maybe you should try it.

 

[Sergi]

....before financial year end would be the obvious guess.

Yup. You are right.

 

[3Idiots]

I prefer beef. It is high protein. Maybe you should try it.

so, we can assume that your protein content is high. right?

 

[Abingdonboy]

It is possible, just not likely. The MMRCA buy was proposed 12 years ago, and not even the contract is signed. After signing the contract, there would be few years to set up new production line as well as personnel training. The potentially Indian made Rafale would probably roll out near 2020 if India encounters any manufacturing problem. If the J-20 keeps progressing as it is, it might just enter service together with the Russian T-50.

So the J-20 will enter service before 2015/6? This is when the Rafale will enter service for sure wih all the infrastructure and training completed. Wrt you remarks on the 12 year time frame of the MMRCA this is factually incorrect. Do some reads arch, the MMRCA in its current firm has only been going on for ~4 years now. Even Wikipedia will tell you this friend.


It has been said time and again but I'll say it again- what the IAF has been able to do in this time frame is nothing short of amazing ie all the different parameters all the different trails etc the IAF has gotten praise from many including the losing contenders for this efficient process.The selection process has even been patented by the IAF and many AFs around the world are eager to get the info from he IAF to hell them wih their selection process. There are only a handful of AFs in the world who could have done such a comprehensive, proffesional and efficient a job as the IAF did.

 

[The A-5]

It is possible, just not likely. The MMRCA buy was proposed 12 years ago, and not even the contract is signed. After signing the contract, there would be few years to set up new production line as well as personnel training. The potentially Indian made Rafale would probably roll out near 2020 if India encounters any manufacturing problem. If the J-20 keeps progressing as it is, it might just enter service together with the Russian T-50.

That MMRCA was the one that included aircraft like MiG-29M2 and Mirage 2000-9.

It was scrapped in 2008 and a fresh tender which listed these aircraft as contenders was presented -

1) Dassault Rafale
2) Eurofighter EF-2000 Typhoon
3) Mikoyan MIG-35 Fulcrum-F
4) SAAB JAS-39 Gripen IN
5) Lockheed F-16IN Super Viper
6) Boeing F/A-18IN Super Hornet

This new tender's evaulation process started only 3 yrs ago.