Mandela called Jinnah his hero

[Tair-Lahoti]

Don't the Muslims in the current India prove the Pak's Founding Fathers to be correct with every breath two-thirds of the Muslims in the sub-continent are taking?????

Even the level-headed Indians are now saying Jinnah was right......

You don't know our liberal seculars..

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

You don't know our liberal seculars..

Let them have some "excursions" in the Muslim ghettos in India, where deaths are celebrated and births are cursed....

 

[Tair-Lahoti]

Neutral sources suggest Jinnah never admired Iqbal.

"The letters which form the subject of this booklet were written to me by the sage, philosopher and national poet of Islam, the late Dr. Sir Muhammad Iqbal, during the period May 1936 to November1937, a few months before his death. "

foreword written by Muhammad Ali Jinnah on 13 letters by Iqbal to him.

Jinnah was biased towards Iqbal.
He won't accept it, even if he has to declare Jinnah a Biased person.

He will only accept neutral sources sitting outside the borders of this country.

I can bet.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Bahi Jinnah was a strong supporter of Hindu Muslim Unity it was Nehrus double game and Iqbals who changed Jinnahs mind

Spot on

 

[Mujahid Memon]

People will argue over who was bigger leader but will never follow either's footsteps.

 

[khansaheeb]

Pakistanis are so delusional that it is not cute anymore.

Iqbal is the guy who was Knighted by the Queen and never uttered a word against British rule. All what he might have said is the "British must depart" or "we must all work hard" as if this was not pretty obvious already. He is a perfect example of what mirza ghulam ahmad was to British empire. They used "freedom of expression" as a tool to give local illusion that these leaders are truly against British rule.
And then Jinnah is the guy who was brought into highlight by Freemasons, and goras who were looking to empower some local individuals that would serve their exit strategy by dividing nations according to their interest.

Pakistan needs to ditch all their so called "founding fathers", throw every single corrupt system that was left by British masters and also ditch Pakistani education system that serves the rich and makes the poor even more poor thanks to that santa "SIR" syed ahmad who we are taught to believe that he transformed education system for Pakistan. Yes he indeed transformed the education system that now Pakistan is a super power.


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Iqbal achieved with his brain what millions couldn't do with their brawns, which is fuel the fight for freedom with clear messages of strategy and inspiration. How can you compare Iqbal with Ahmad you despicable hindjew?

 

[Chakar The Great]

Jinnah was a great leader.

 

[عقاب]

Well that was in his last year's of life when he became a separatist. Before that he was the ambassador of Hindu Muslim unity and fought for united far more than anyone.
He once said about Iqbal when he talked about a Muslim nation "poets are just dreamers"
@Ahtisham Ullah Karamat

The right description is not even "secular Nationalist", but "Nationalist Idolator"

 

[YeBeWarned]

Jinnah is very underrated, its not that I feel bad that he dont get much attention from Western Think tanks , but they prefer a Racist and Child molester like Gandhi over Jinnah ..

 

[ShazzadAhmedMahdi]

Every leader in South Asia has been a puppet since the fall of Mughals and Afghan Durrani people. There has not been any patriotic person except for Zia Al Haq who was assassinated for trying to keep the land from being turned into a freemason jinn/demonic dump. The greatest achievement from these world leaders is the United States and petrodollar system.

Jinnah is very underrated, its not that I feel bad that he dont get much attention from Western Think tanks , but they prefer a Racist and Child molester like Gandhi over Jinnah ..

Jinnah and Ghandi were two sides of the same coin. The fact that a remote island all the way from the north of Europe was able to sail all the way to south india as a trading company, fool the Mughals that they were there just for business, exploit the power vacuum and multiple village power struggles within within the land and unite them under one country called India shows the British were great strategist, were able to strike at the right moment and knew how to keep the masses brainwashed. The British never interfered with the caste system. They just allied themselves with brahmins saying that brahmins were caucasian invaders like them and they both should rule the land. The British ended up taking $42 trillion and the brahmins were just sepoy dark middle men slaves who kept their superiority complex over the unmixed aboriginal dark skin races of India

 

[Myth_buster_1]

look what you are saying even if I agree for a moment even if I agree with your theory

I know Iqbal never said that I want to divide the country , he only wanted separate states for Muslims in India

But The seed of hatred that brithish sowed between Muslims and Hindus for 200 years had become a full grown tree in the form of RSS Shudhi and Sangtan.
now it was inevitable that the future would be chaos in either case.
Are you aware ?What words did Iqbal utter about West and it civilization? How did he describe west and its materialistic society?
give me some numbers, how many poems of Iqbal have you read? To Justify your theory you have to tell us that you have read this much what Iqbal said...
Dont see with only one eye

What Pakistan need to do is to implement the slogan and reason which they raised to obtain a separate country, otherwise there was no other need for some independent home,
Death to Nationalism

So what event led Iqbal to change his mind that Muslims need a separate state when his whole life was in favor of one "Hindustan" that he so much loved? Were muslims were not being persecuted and mistreated when he was in "Hindustan"? Someone as knowledgeable as him should know from beginning that Muslim MUST have their OWN land with their own system. But instead 90% of his life he was in favor of either British or Hindustan.
Also its a little known fact among most of delusional Pakistanis that Iqbal was a Qadiyani. Even if he was at one point and later converted to Islam, what transformation can we notice in him? Did he even perform Hajj, or Ummrah or did he even go to mosque? Most of converts are so influenced by the religion that they pray 5 times a day, become very religious, and become a total different person that even their friends and family dont recognize them.
Thats why when Pakistani muslims accuse Qadiyanis of their leader being a British agent then they have even a better argument that it was Qadiyanis who initiated pro Pakistan movement and Jinniah had closer ties with British empire then Mirza. LOL

Now watch this. According to Ahmadis Iqbal was a Qadiyani until 1931 and according to non-Ahmadi Muslim researchers he was a Ahmadi until 1908.
Even Dr. Israr and Iqbal's son believe that Iqbal was inspired by Mirza Ghulam Ahamd.

Take Malcolm x for example. He was a follower of Nation of Islam which is not really Islam but later during his life he converted to Islam. He took a bullet because he exposed Nation of Islam and we also know he became a Muslim and he even performed Hajj. All these attribute to be a Muslim is absent in Iqbal.
Thats why I believe that Iqbal was indeed a Ahamdi but had to declare himself non-Ahmadi simply to appease non Ahmadi or else he would lose all credibility and following so he had to throw some words against Ahmadis that had no impact. Not only that, but he also belonged to group of so called "Muslims" including Mirza who were recruited by British empire to serve their interest.

Am I against creation of Pakistan? Not really....
By creating Pakistan, British empire actually did India a huge favor other wise India would have been in constant struggle with current major internal problems times 100 and it would be just massive land with two group of religion fighting each other.
I am not suggesting One Hindustan but a Pakistan 2.0 and defuse ticking time bombs that British empire left. First it was a wonderful gift inform of East Pakistan that made no sense to be included with Pakistan that was not only 1000 miles away but also with India smack in the middle . its like designing your house with bedroom in one town and bathroom in another, then kashmir because of which Pakistan may soon end up in stone age while India is in world top 5 economy (yah they dont have enough toilet is what will keep pakistanis in denial of its failure, and another gift would soon be in form of provinces war and then it will be and then you can read wonderful poems written by "SIR" Alama Iqbal and wipe your butt with it.

 

[عقاب]

So what event led Iqbal to change his mind that Muslims need a separate state when his whole life was in favor of one "Hindustan" that he so much loved? Were muslims were not being persecuted and mistreated when he was in "Hindustan"? Someone as knowledgeable as him should know from beginning that Muslim MUST have their OWN land with their own system. But instead 90% of his life he was in favor of either British or Hindustan.
Also its a little known fact among most of delusional Pakistanis that Iqbal was a Qadiyani. Even if he was at one point and later converted to Islam, what transformation can we notice in him? Did he even perform Hajj, or Ummrah or did he even go to mosque? Most of converts are so influenced by the religion that they pray 5 times a day, become very religious, and become a total different person that even their friends and family dont recognize them.
Thats why when Pakistani muslims accuse Qadiyanis of their leader being a British agent then they have even a better argument that it was Qadiyanis who initiated pro Pakistan movement and Jinniah had closer ties with British empire then Mirza. LOL

Now watch this. According to Ahmadis Iqbal was a Qadiyani until 1931 and according to non-Ahmadi Muslim researchers he was a Ahmadi until 1908.
Even Dr. Israr and Iqbal's son believe that Iqbal was inspired by Mirza Ghulam Ahamd.

Take Malcolm x for example. He was a follower of Nation of Islam which is not really Islam but later during his life he converted to Islam. He took a bullet because he exposed Nation of Islam and we also know he became a Muslim and he even performed Hajj. All these attribute to be a Muslim is absent in Iqbal.
Thats why I believe that Iqbal was indeed a Ahamdi but had to declare himself non-Ahmadi simply to appease non Ahmadi or else he would lose all credibility and following so he had to throw some words against Ahmadis that had no impact. Not only that, but he also belonged to group of so called "Muslims" including Mirza who were recruited by British empire to serve their interest.

Am I against creation of Pakistan? Not really....
By creating Pakistan, British empire actually did India a huge favor other wise India would have been in constant struggle with current major internal problems times 100 and it would be just massive land with two group of religion fighting each other.
I am not suggesting One Hindustan but a Pakistan 2.0 and defuse ticking time bombs that British empire left. First it was a wonderful gift inform of East Pakistan that made no sense to be included with Pakistan that was not only 1000 miles away but also with India smack in the middle . its like designing your house with bedroom in one town and bathroom in another, then kashmir because of which Pakistan may soon end up in stone age while India is in world top 5 economy (yah they dont have enough toilet is what will keep pakistanis in denial of its failure, and another gift would soon be in form of provinces war and then it will be and then you can read wonderful poems written by "SIR" Alama Iqbal and wipe your butt with it.

Why are you disrespectful ? Don't you believe in the day when you will be brought again to life ?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Neutral sources suggest Jinnah never admired Iqbal.

Mostly Ego issues.. but it was Iqbal who bought Jinnah back into Muslim League

Pakistanis are so delusional that it is not cute anymore.

Iqbal is the guy who was Knighted by the Queen and never uttered a word against British rule. All what he might have said is the "British must depart" or "we must all work hard" as if this was not pretty obvious already. He is a perfect example of what mirza ghulam ahmad was to British empire. They used "freedom of expression" as a tool to give local illusion that these leaders are truly against British rule.
And then Jinnah is the guy who was brought into highlight by Freemasons, and goras who were looking to empower some local individuals that would serve their exit strategy by dividing nations according to their interest.

Pakistan needs to ditch all their so called "founding fathers", throw every single corrupt system that was left by British masters and also ditch Pakistani education system that serves the rich and makes the poor even more poor thanks to that santa "SIR" syed ahmad who we are taught to believe that he transformed education system for Pakistan. Yes he indeed transformed the education system that now Pakistan is a super power.


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Every leader in South Asia has been a puppet since the fall of Mughals and Afghan Durrani people. There has not been any patriotic person except for Zia Al Haq who was assassinated for trying to keep the land from being turned into a freemason jinn/demonic dump. The greatest achievement from these world leaders is the United States and petrodollar system.

Jinnah and Ghandi were two sides of the same coin. The fact that a remote island all the way from the north of Europe was able to sail all the way to south india as a trading company, fool the Mughals that they were there just for business, exploit the power vacuum and multiple village power struggles within within the land and unite them under one country called India shows the British were great strategist, were able to strike at the right moment and knew how to keep the masses brainwashed. The British never interfered with the caste system. They just allied themselves with brahmins saying that brahmins were caucasian invaders like them and they both should rule the land. The British ended up taking $42 trillion and the brahmins were just sepoy dark middle men slaves who kept their superiority complex over the unmixed aboriginal dark skin races of India

All of you guys who are spreading disinformation about Allama Iqbal and Quaid e Azam, please educate yourselves.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Why are you disrespectful ? Don't you believe in the day when you will be brought again to life ?

Sorry I hurt your feelings.

 

[عقاب]

Sorry I hurt your feelings.

As far as I remember PDF also give us the opportunity to erase/edit any wrong actions.