Malaysia’s snap election could break any number of ways

[epebble]

The speak Malayo-Polynesian languages. Today Bahasa Malayu and Bahasa Indonesia is mutually intelligible. In comparison, Chinese Mandarin and Chinese Taiwanese are totally no intelligible,

Indonesia is lucky to start off with communist Sukarno as leader. He hate all these superstitious and want people to be undivided. The reason communist can be leader of Indonesia is because Indonesia win her independence through fighting the Dutch. West hate Sukarno and ask Suharto in convenience alliance with Islam group to take to Sukarno and in the process killed lots of Chinese,

Malaysia got independence when British hand over power to Malays. Expectedly British chose the worst scvm of the country, the most superstitious person as leader. British hate Chinese. So all these Malaysia policies has support and even instigation of West.


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So, if you ignore the minor language differences, Can I say the main difference is Indonesians are more secular due to their communist origin while Malaysians are traditionalists/conservative due to British history?

Can I make these translations?

"He hate all these superstitious" = Secular
"the most superstitious person" = Islamic

 

[Song Hong]

So, if you ignore the minor language differences, Can I say the main difference is Indonesians are more secular due to their communist origin while Malaysians are traditionalists/conservative due to British history?

Can I make these translations?

"He hate all these superstitious" = Secular
"the most superstitious person" = Islamic

Many Muslims are not so superstitious or fanatic unless they are under west payroll directly or indirectly. Hashimite, the real keeper of Mecca and Medina want advancement for Muslims. Below is their outlook.

Jews and West hate them and put the sand nigger barbaric bandit Al Saud as the top boss of holy land.

 

[Nan Yang]

Can you expand on this? What are the fundamental differences between Malaysia and Indonesia, demographically? I know both of them as Islamic majority nations, generally peaceful. Also, what is the difference between these two and Philippines, besides religion?


Are there no such policies in Indonesia? If so, why not? They don't have same concerns?

In Malaysia, the Chinese makes up a very large minority 20% and we Chinese dominates the economic activities.
Our contribution to Malaysia's development is no secret.
If we obtain political power as well, we can take over the country. This is what the ethnic Malay's fear. I do not blame them. Politicians plays into this ethnic Malay fear.

During the good old days the unwritten rule is that the Chinese will have economic power but the Malays will have the political power. Nobody is happy, but this unwritten rule brought stability for over 40 years.

Indonesia is different. Chinese only makes up 2% and ethnic Indonesian do not feel threaten at all. So Chinese are able to have more power.

This is what I mean by demographics.

As for Philippines or Thailand or Vietnam, Chinese are very well assimilated. Only in Malaysia and Indonesia Chinese do not assimilate well.

 

[epebble]

If we obtain political power as well, we can take over the country.

If people vote for you, what is the problem? An ethnic Chinese man (Lee Kuan Yew) was PM in Singapore. What went wrong? We had a Kenyan American President; the country didn't fall apart. He was better than his successor. We now have a Jamaican Indian woman as Vice-President, no problem. An ethnic Indian man is now PM of U.K. Did anything change?

As for Philippines or Thailand or Vietnam, Chinese are very well assimilated. Only in Malaysia and Indonesia Chinese do not assimilate well.

Why is that so? Is it because of Islam?

 

[Mista]

An ethnic Chinese man (Lee Kuan Yew) was PM in Singapore. What went wrong?

Singapore is 75% Chinese. Malays are only 13% here.

We had a Kenyan American President; the country didn't fall apart. He was better than his successor. We now have a Jamaican Indian woman as Vice-President, no problem. An ethnic Indian man is now PM of U.K. Did anything change?

Malaysia is a very different society from the US or UK. You can't just view other societies based on the perspective from your own society.

You can watch this video if you have the time.

 

[epebble]

Singapore is 75% Chinese. Malays are only 13% here.



Malaysia is a very different society from the US or UK. You can't just view other societies based on the perspective from your own society.

My question still remains. if people freely vote for an ethnic Chinese person in Malaysia, what is the problem? Why can't the voters of Malaysia pick whoever they want, Chinese, European, African, Indian or an Alien from Mars?

 

[Mista]

My question still remains. if people freely vote for an ethnic Chinese person in Malaysia, what is the problem? Why can't the voters of Malaysia pick whoever they want, Chinese, European, African, Indian or an Alien from Mars?

No one is stopping them from voting non-Malays, but will they?

 

[Song Hong]

The Malay Bumi policies now become a nightmare even for Malay elites. They cannot roll it back even during 1970s some sincerely believe it to be a stop gap measure. Once you implement some affirmative policies, the privillege group will be grow ever fanatical, in order to clamor for more support and in order to put even more incompetent and corrupt into power.

Malaysia simply cannot have meritoracy in today environment of AI, space race. They will be ever more corrupt and eventually Vietnam and Thailand and Indonesia will overtake them.

 

[Nan Yang]

Christian PMs revote against GPS working with Perikatan Nasional to form Government.

Abang Johari takes heat from inside GPS over PN pact​

Coalition members unhappy party helping extreme Malaya parties to come into power

Updated 8 hours ago · Published on 21 Nov 2022 12:40PM

Party members hope GPS chairman Tan Sri Abang Johari Openg does not help push extreme Malayan parties into power in Putrajaya. – Bernama pic, November 21, 2022

BY The Vibes Team​

KUALA LUMPUR – It appears that not all Gabungan Parti Sarawak (GPS) members are happy with the alliance with Perikatan Nasional (PN) to form the federal government.

Highly placed sources told The Vibes that chief among the concerns was the inclusion of PAS and the anti-Christian narratives played up in the final hours of the election campaign.

“We were not consulted on this and it appears that Tan Sri Abang Johari Openg is making arbitrary decisions,” said one source.

Party members hope GPS chairman Abang Johari does not help push extreme Malaya parties into power in Putrajaya.

“We are having difficulty explaining to our members why we are tying up with PAS and Bersatu.

“Their politics are inconsistent with the values of the people in Sarawak,” said another.

On Sunday, Abang Johari was first to announce that GPS was entering a pact with PN, BN, and GRS in Sabah to form the federal government with Muhyiddin as prime minister.

Since then, within Sarawak, netizens on social media and ordinary folks in the community had expressed dismay over the decision.

“GPS has sold out Sarawak in its eagerness to be kingmaker,” said one of the many messages circulated on social media.

GPS won 22 parliamentary seats in the recent general election, which makes it the fourth biggest winner after PH, PN and BN.

GPS comprises Parti Pesaka Bumiputera Bersatu of which Abang Johari is president, Sarawak United Peoples Party with Dr Sim Kui Hian as president; Parti Rakyat Sarawak with Datuk Joseph Salang as president; and Progressive Democratic Party which is headed by Datuk Seri Tiong King Sing.

Sarawak PH information chief Abun Sui weighed in, saying GPS will make a mistake of disastrous proportions if it helps PAS and Bersatu form the federal government, as these two Malaya parties had capitalised on extreme propaganda in the GE15.

He said Abang Johari must not give in to pressure from PN leaders.

“It will be disastrous for GPS to head in that direction.

“Working with parties with extreme agendas and race and religion-based policies, and putting such parties into power in the national administration, will be a mistake GPS will regret.

“GPS is in a position to work with moderates in Pakatan Harapan.

“Join forces with PH to form the federal government together with Sabah partners who are also moderates,” said Sui.

– The Vibes, November 21, 2022

 

[lcloo]

We are moving towards Taliban state slowly and slowly due to the indoctrination of extremist religious and ethnic race division in some education/ vocational institutions financed by governemnts since 1980 to present day.

The Whatsapp group of my ex-classmates (from a formerly English medium secondary school in Terengganu state) has many extremist postings that propagate hatre against non-muslims, on non-believers, ethnic Chinese Malaysians like DAP = communist, the alleged land grabing by the ethnic Chinese Malaysians from the Malay natives etc etc.

I am so relieved that I am no longer living in Terengganu. And the candidate that I voted in KL is elected.

The next 5 years is not going to be productive in inter-racial relatiionship due to PAS raising its ugly racist and religious extremism nor good for economic growth as foreign investors will be getting worry on political stability.

Most of the new voters above 18 years old casted their votes for PAS, as alleged by Siti Kassim due to indoctrination in religious schools all these years.

 

[lcloo]

She talked about the danger of PAS, and Hadi.

 

[Mista]

like DAP = communist, the alleged land grabing by the ethnic Chinese Malaysians from the Malay natives etc etc.

PAS leader alleges certain DAP leaders are pro-communist, mentions Lee Kuan Yew for some reason

Yup it's election season.

mothership.sg

PAS delegate warns Malaysia could become 'second Singapore' if Malay rights sidelined

Selangor PAS election director Roslan Shahir Mohamad Shahir claimed the Chinese-dominated Democratic Action Party poses a threat to Malays. Read more at straitstimes.com.

www.straitstimes.com

 

[Song Hong]

There is another way of provoking racial hatred as in Singapore. The endless condemnation of Chinese by government as racist, and the perpetual conditioning that Chinese must be sensitive to minorities especially Muslims is itself racism against Chinese. (Nothing mentioned on minorities must be sensitive to Chinese, to Taoism and Buddhism)

The perpetual downplay of Malay Muslims terrorism activity (blaming individuals as nutcase) and infinite extrapolation of individual Chinese conduct on tiktok (youtube...etc) and make it national issues.

In an analogy, GoS is like showing audience an hardcore porrn and then tell people the harm of X movie. This is as good as promoting perversion.

GoS is sht stirer and worst anti Chinese status quo.

 

[Nan Yang]

Malaysia: Muhyiddin ally Annuar Musa slammed for stoking race tensions with disinformation

• Caretaker Information Minister Annuar Musa shared a video of a political rally in Taiwan without specifying so, urging Muslims to not take ‘clear enemies of the religion as allies’
• Annuar is a member of Umno but is seen having strong ties with Malay nationalist Muhyiddin who leads Umno’s key rival Bersatu

Hadi Azmi in Kuala Lumpur
Published: 8:26pm, 23 Nov, 2022

Annuar, 66, is a member of Umno but is seen having strong ties with Malay nationalist Muhyiddin who leads Umno’s key rival Bersatu. Photo: Twitter

A Malaysian minister seen as close to prime ministerial contender Muhyiddin Yassin on Wednesday was forced to amend a Facebook post that commenters said was dangerously fanning racial tensions amid the country’s political deadlock.

Annuar Musa, a member of the Barisan Nasional bloc had shared an undated video, seemingly featuring a Taiwanese political rally with attendees wearing red attire.

Malaysian fact-checking initiative Faqcheck told This Week in Asia the video was of a 2019 rally by then-Taiwanese presidential candidate Han Kuo-yu.

Annuar Musa’s Facebook post. Photo: Facebook screengrab

In the accompanying text, Annuar did not specify that the video was shot in Taiwan or offer other details on what it was about. Instead, he wrote obliquely about the need for Muslims to not take “clear enemies of the religion as allies”.

“At our moment of weakness, Allah commands us to no longer be separated and divided,” Annuar wrote. The politician, who is the caretaker information minister, did not offer context to his comments.

Facing a deluge of criticism, he removed the video from the post but retained the text late on Wednesday afternoon.

Annuar, 66, is a member of the United Malays National Organisation (Umno) party but is seen having strong ties with Malay nationalist Muhyiddin who leads Umno’s key rival Bersatu.

Malaysia's post-election impasse drags on with king to decide next prime minister

Given the context of the country’s ongoing political impasse, some commenters suggested Annuar was seeking to stoke racial feelings among the country’s majority Malays.

The two coalitions vying for power – the conservative Malay-Muslim Perikatan Nasional alliance of Muhyiddin and Anwar Ibrahim’s multi-ethnic Pakatan Harapan alliance – are seen as holding diametrically opposite ideologies.

Perikatan Nasional, which includes the hardline Islamist PAS party, fared strongly in Saturday’s vote on the back of a message that observers say partly leaned into rhetoric that Pakatan Harapan rule would erode the rights of the country’s Malay-Muslims, who make up some 60 per cent of the country’s 32 million people.

Pakatan Harapan’s symbol is its name embossed on a background of crimson red, the same shade as the attire worn by the Taiwanese rally goers in the video shared by Annuar.

Pakatan Harapan’s symbol is its name embossed on a background of crimson red, the same shade as the attire worn by the Taiwanese rally goers in the video shared by Annuar. Photo: Reuters

“Do you want to wait until there’s a racial riot before you stop?” asked Facebook user Mazlan Muaz. On Twitter, a user of Malay ethnicity asked: “Are you really spreading disinformation as the information minister? I hope he is condemned and prosecuted … there is no room for racism in Malaysia.”

On WhatsApp, forwarded messages incorrectly stated that the video shared by Annuar showed a Pakatan Harapan rally in Penang, a state in northern Peninsular Malaysia where ethnic Chinese residents make up about 40 per cent of the population.

Police have warned citizens against sharing incendiary messages amid the heightened political temperatures in recent days. Short-form video platform TikTok on Thursday said it was on high alert for content that violated its guidelines in Malaysia.

“We continue to be on high alert and will aggressively remove any violative content,” TikTok, which is owned by the China-based firm ByteDance, said in a statement.

Since Saturday’s election, social media users have reported numerous TikTok posts mentioning the May 1969 riot which took place in capital city Kuala Lumpur. In that clash, about 200 people were killed days after opposition parties supported by ethnic Chinese voters made inroads in an election.

TikTok said it had removed videos with riot-related content that violated its community guidelines, saying it had “zero tolerance” for hate speech and violent extremism.

TikTok declined to reveal the number of posts it had deleted or the number of complaints received. It told Reuters it would remove any accounts operated by users under the age of 13 after some parents complained that their children had been exposed to offensive content.

Additional reporting by Reuter

 

[Song Hong]

Malaysia: Muhyiddin ally Annuar Musa slammed for stoking race tensions with disinformation

• Caretaker Information Minister Annuar Musa shared a video of a political rally in Taiwan without specifying so, urging Muslims to not take ‘clear enemies of the religion as allies’
• Annuar is a member of Umno but is seen having strong ties with Malay nationalist Muhyiddin who leads Umno’s key rival Bersatu

Hadi Azmi in Kuala Lumpur
Published: 8:26pm, 23 Nov, 2022
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Annuar, 66, is a member of Umno but is seen having strong ties with Malay nationalist Muhyiddin who leads Umno’s key rival Bersatu. Photo: Twitter

A Malaysian minister seen as close to prime ministerial contender Muhyiddin Yassin on Wednesday was forced to amend a Facebook post that commenters said was dangerously fanning racial tensions amid the country’s political deadlock.

Annuar Musa, a member of the Barisan Nasional bloc had shared an undated video, seemingly featuring a Taiwanese political rally with attendees wearing red attire.

Malaysian fact-checking initiative Faqcheck told This Week in Asia the video was of a 2019 rally by then-Taiwanese presidential candidate Han Kuo-yu.

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Annuar Musa’s Facebook post. Photo: Facebook screengrab

In the accompanying text, Annuar did not specify that the video was shot in Taiwan or offer other details on what it was about. Instead, he wrote obliquely about the need for Muslims to not take “clear enemies of the religion as allies”.

“At our moment of weakness, Allah commands us to no longer be separated and divided,” Annuar wrote. The politician, who is the caretaker information minister, did not offer context to his comments.

Facing a deluge of criticism, he removed the video from the post but retained the text late on Wednesday afternoon.

Annuar, 66, is a member of the United Malays National Organisation (Umno) party but is seen having strong ties with Malay nationalist Muhyiddin who leads Umno’s key rival Bersatu.

Malaysia's post-election impasse drags on with king to decide next prime minister

Given the context of the country’s ongoing political impasse, some commenters suggested Annuar was seeking to stoke racial feelings among the country’s majority Malays.

The two coalitions vying for power – the conservative Malay-Muslim Perikatan Nasional alliance of Muhyiddin and Anwar Ibrahim’s multi-ethnic Pakatan Harapan alliance – are seen as holding diametrically opposite ideologies.

Perikatan Nasional, which includes the hardline Islamist PAS party, fared strongly in Saturday’s vote on the back of a message that observers say partly leaned into rhetoric that Pakatan Harapan rule would erode the rights of the country’s Malay-Muslims, who make up some 60 per cent of the country’s 32 million people.

Pakatan Harapan’s symbol is its name embossed on a background of crimson red, the same shade as the attire worn by the Taiwanese rally goers in the video shared by Annuar.

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Pakatan Harapan’s symbol is its name embossed on a background of crimson red, the same shade as the attire worn by the Taiwanese rally goers in the video shared by Annuar. Photo: Reuters

“Do you want to wait until there’s a racial riot before you stop?” asked Facebook user Mazlan Muaz. On Twitter, a user of Malay ethnicity asked: “Are you really spreading disinformation as the information minister? I hope he is condemned and prosecuted … there is no room for racism in Malaysia.”

On WhatsApp, forwarded messages incorrectly stated that the video shared by Annuar showed a Pakatan Harapan rally in Penang, a state in northern Peninsular Malaysia where ethnic Chinese residents make up about 40 per cent of the population.

Police have warned citizens against sharing incendiary messages amid the heightened political temperatures in recent days. Short-form video platform TikTok on Thursday said it was on high alert for content that violated its guidelines in Malaysia.

“We continue to be on high alert and will aggressively remove any violative content,” TikTok, which is owned by the China-based firm ByteDance, said in a statement.

Since Saturday’s election, social media users have reported numerous TikTok posts mentioning the May 1969 riot which took place in capital city Kuala Lumpur. In that clash, about 200 people were killed days after opposition parties supported by ethnic Chinese voters made inroads in an election.

TikTok said it had removed videos with riot-related content that violated its community guidelines, saying it had “zero tolerance” for hate speech and violent extremism.

TikTok declined to reveal the number of posts it had deleted or the number of complaints received. It told Reuters it would remove any accounts operated by users under the age of 13 after some parents complained that their children had been exposed to offensive content.

Additional reporting by Reuter

The consecration of race will lead to the elevation of the most vile person to elevate to the top position. Bad guys just stir and they will get top jobs. And they will create a race for others to follow suite.

Right now something even more sinister in Singapore. Singapore government is sanctifying LGBT, Islam, Indians, feminazi and in process of abandoning meritocracy. On top of that, GoS is demonizing Chinese as racist. Future of Singapore is getting ever more bleak.