Malaysia Malay anti China riot

[prima99]

" like i said, this IS NOT an Anti-China, this is Anti-Communism. the real Anti-China move is in 1998 and that's already done. " ---Anti-China move in 1998, but we didn't feel it, no damage in China here.
" why should we thanks China if it's "our people" who build our own country?"---We always talk about Chinese in indonesia, right? Thanks the Chinese you called Cina, not we in China, get it?

Could you reply honestly, Chinese in your mind is ethnic/race or nationality? This issue is what I discuss with 70U63 in the first place. @Indos your opinion? @70U63 You can read their opinions as reference.

then why are you so concerned about the "Not our Chinese Mainlander"? if anything, it should be the Chinese-Indonesians who should demand an apology. yes there is no damage done to PRC, but look at how you PRC make it worse for others

May 1998 riots of Indonesia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

False pictures circulated of the riots[edit]
Many graphic photos of other riots happening in Indonesia such as the Maluku sectarian conflict in Ambon, killings of Islamic clerics and suspected witches in Banyuwangi, massacres of Madurese Muslims in Kalimantan at the hands of Dayaks and Malays during the Sambas riots and Sampit conflict, 2000 Walisongo school massacre in Sulawesi were mislabeled as Chinese victims from the May 1998 riots and circulated around the Chinese internet.

Many false pictures of alleged Chinese rape victims were circulated on the internet.[40][41] Overseas Chinese led a internet based campaign with some fake photos and testimonies of the rapes to raise awareness about the riots.[42]

Fake pictures of Chinese women getting gang raped were actually from East Timor, a gory photo exhibit, and a **** website.[43][44][45][46][47][48][49]

Pictures of East Timorese women tortured by the Indonesian military were mislabeled as Chinese gang rape victims by overseas Chinese, and fake testimonies were also spread around.[50][51]

Fake pictures taken from the website "Sexy Asian Schoolgirls" dated to December 4, 1997, were also mislabeled as Chinese gang rape victims.[52][53][54] The website was a **** site.[55]

Some Chinese Indonesians were furious at overseas Chinese websites spreading fake rape photos, warning that it was causing hatred and division against ethnic Chinese in Indonesia.[56] Many Islamic Indonesians reacted angrily at an alleged rape testimony allegedly by a girl under the name "Vivi" which claimed that the rapists allegedly shouted "Allahu Akbar" which was falsely portraying the riot as a religious issue.[44] The "Beijing Review" warned of a "backlash" against Chinese because of the fake rape photos.[57]

Charles A. Coppel pointed out the hypocrisy of people trying to separate all the other violence in Indonesia and zoom in on specific anti-Chinese violence noting that the same people did not speak about the sexual assaults on East Timorese women and Acehnese women and that some of the violence against Chinese may not have been motivated by ethnicity but religion and class, like attacks on Chinese Christian Churches due to religion and attacks on Chinese employers due to working conditions and were not motivated by race.[58]

also Chinese is ethnic as if it's not obvious.

 

[Indos]

Lol , are you serious wanna talking about inferior????

Inferior is when you hated the people but you want to be like them, instead embraced your own culture the native embraced Arab culture..
And most of the native is Inferior complex towards Arab , one arab guys can slap a bunch of native without problem..

You hated the Chinese , but trying to put your self on the same level like us..
That's what I called inferior!

How come me feel inferior toward Arab...? We embrace Islam culture, similar like Arab who let go their past culture and embrace Islam culture. Arab before Islam is actually a no body according to Caliph Umar bin Khatab words.

Okay, one of my cousin even married a pretty Saudi national (Arab ethnic). And you should know that pretty Arab Indonesian likes me very much during my high school time

You need to understand that I dont feel inferior even toward Western people. And as Muslim we consider us as superior and it is backed by our God words in Quran.

One of Indonesian is actually an Imam in Masjidil Haram, when Makah still under Ottoman Empire

Shaikh Ahmad Khatib al-Minangkabawi (1860 – 1916) was a Minangkabau Indonesian Islamic teacher. He was born in Koto Tuo, Ampek Angkek, Agam Regency, West Sumatra on 6 Dzulhijjah 1276 H (1860 M) and died in Mecca on 8 Jumadil Awal 1334 H (1916 M).[1] He served as the head (imam) of the Shafi'i school of law at the mosque of Mecca (Masjid al-Haram). Many Indonesian Islamic reformist leaders learned from him, including Ahmad Dahlan, as founder Muhammadiyah and Hasyim Asyari, as founderNahdlatul Ulama.[2]

Although Ahmad Khatib was an orthodox Sunni Muslim, he still hoped to reconcile the matrilineal system in Minangkabau with the laws of inheritance prescribed in the Quran. Through his Minangkabau students who studied in Mecca and well as those he taught in Indonesia, he encouraged a modified Minangkabau culture based on al-Quran and the Sunnah.

His son, Sheikh Abdulhameed Alkhateeb, was the first Saudi Arabian ambassador to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. And his grand son, Fouad Abdulhameed Alkhateeb, was a Saudi Arabian ambassador, humanitarian, author, and businessman. In his capacity as a diplomat, he represented his homeland in Pakistan, Iraq, the United States of America, the Federal Republic of Nigeria, the Republic of Turkey, the People's Republic of Bangladesh, Nepal, and finally as Saudi ambassador to Malaysia.

Ahmad Khatib - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[prima99]

Lol , are you serious wanna talking about inferior????

Inferior is when you hated the people but you want to be like them, instead embraced your own culture the native embraced Arab culture..
And most of the native is Inferior complex towards Arab , one arab guys can slap a bunch of native without problem..

You hated the Chinese , but trying to put your self on the same level like us..
That's what I called inferior!

you really don't know jack shit about indonesia, aren't you? yet you try to be the know-it-all

it was started by the Hindus from India, to Gujarati that spread the islam religion acoss the nation, not from Arab.

*facepalm* you failed to see the Indonesian culture? you don't know what is batik? you don't know what is wayang?

even worse, you don't know what is Bali and their Dances and Culture?

and now you said we want to be arabian by using their culture. if you can't give solid proof, then you're genuinely a disappointment for the human race.

and nope, not in our slightest mind that we wants to be chinese. WE ARE on the same level like those chinese that you think have "Higher Caste" than others. it's our country, our rules.

Nope, I just enjoy ensalve the native and making million dollar every years ..
Every country love to accept people who can bring benefit, rather than people shouting Allah and Allah and Allah and blow them self.

enslave like what? if they are workers, then they're by no means a Slave. workers are workers, as if it's not obvious. if you view as working in other people's owned company as slaves, then you have a problem in your mentality. please go back to school to get better social education.

also who blew themselves in Indonesia? i never heard any series of suicide bombing there? are you dumb or retarded?

 

[Place Of Space]

The topic finally into Islam thing. Don't ruin the thread, please. @Indos

 

[Phukimak]

How come me feel inferior toward Arab...? We embrace Islam culture, similar like Arab who let go their past culture and embrace Islam culture. Arab before Islam is actually a no body according to Caliph Umar bin Khatab words.

Okay, one of my cousin even married a pretty Saudi national (Arab ethnic). And you should know that pretty Arab Indonesian likes me very much during my high school time

You need to understand that I dont feel inferior even toward Western people. And as Muslim we consider us as superior and it is backed by our God words in Quran.

One of Indonesian is actually an Imam in Masjidil Haram, when Makah still under Ottoman Empire

Shaikh Ahmad Khatib al-Minangkabawi (1860 – 1916) was a Minangkabau Indonesian Islamic teacher. He was born in Koto Tuo, Ampek Angkek, Agam Regency, West Sumatra on 6 Dzulhijjah 1276 H (1860 M) and died in Mecca on 8 Jumadil Awal 1334 H (1916 M).[1] He served as the head (imam) of the Shafi'i school of law at the mosque of Mecca (Masjid al-Haram). Many Indonesian Islamic reformist leaders learned from him, including Ahmad Dahlan, as founder Muhammadiyah and Hasyim Asyari, as founderNahdlatul Ulama.[2]

Although Ahmad Khatib was an orthodox Sunni Muslim, he still hoped to reconcile the matrilineal system in Minangkabau with the laws of inheritance prescribed in the Quran. Through his Minangkabau students who studied in Mecca and well as those he taught in Indonesia, he encouraged a modified Minangkabau culture based on al-Quran and the Sunnah.

His son, Sheikh Abdulhameed Alkhateeb, was the first Saudi Arabian ambassador to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. And his grand son, Fouad Abdulhameed Alkhateeb, was a Saudi Arabian ambassador, humanitarian, author, and businessman. In his capacity as a diplomat, he represented his homeland in Pakistan, Iraq, the United States of America, the Federal Republic of Nigeria, the Republic of Turkey, the People's Republic of Bangladesh, Nepal, and finally as Saudi ambassador to Malaysia.

Ahmad Khatib - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Man, even when I'm high , I never had your kind of delusional level

Whether I'm taking magic mushroom, smoking weed , or happy 5.. I never reach your delusional level..

Whatever get you through the night.. Lol
I rest my case on this thread..
Good night.. Lok

 

[Indos]

It is a norm for Minang ethnic to live in Saudi in the past since after doing Hajj they just do trading there, just like that Imam that I posted above also living in Saudi and married Arab woman. Some of my family are Saudi nationals from my grand mother side even though still pure Indonesian ( until cousins). @Saif al-Arab can confirm the fact that many Indonesian become Saudi national and particularly living in Hijaz area (Makah/Madinah/...)

And my love story is also true....

 

[Phukimak]

you really don't know jack shit about indonesia, aren't you? yet you try to be the know-it-all

it was started by the Hindus from India, to Gujarati that spread the islam religion acoss the nation, not from Arab.

*facepalm* you failed to see the Indonesian culture? you don't know what is batik? you don't know what is wayang?

even worse, you don't know what is Bali and their Dances and Culture?

and now you said we want to be arabian by using their culture. if you can't give solid proof, then you're genuinely a disappointment for the human race.

and nope, not in our slightest mind that we wants to be chinese. WE ARE on the same level like those chinese that you think have "Higher Caste" than others. it's our country, our rules.



enslave like what? if they are workers, then they're by no means a Slave. workers are workers, as if it's not obvious. if you view as working in other people's owned company as slaves, then you have a problem in your mentality. please go back to school to get better social education.

also who blew themselves in Indonesia? i never heard any series of suicide bombing there? are you dumb or retarded?

you are the one who dont know shit about indonesia..

i'm not talking about the history here, i'm talking about the present
look at aceh right now, they embraced syariah islam and turn their island into a shit hole, there is no major development there..

this is just one example..

and about the BOM

here is the list

1) Bom Filipina embassy (2000)
2) 13 Oktober 2003, Abdul Jabbar, Faturrahman al Ghozi dan Edi Sutiono
3) Bom in malaysia embasy (2000)
4) Bom BEJ (2000)
5) BOM at the night chrismast (2000)
6) BOM bali 1 & 2
7) BOM mabes (2003)
8) BOM bandara cengkareng (2003)
9) BOM JW marriot (2003)

the list is too long..
Welcome To Little Angel World: DAFTAR TRAGEDI BOM DI INDONESIA

 

[Rasengan]

How come me feel inferior toward Arab...? We embrace Islam culture, similar like Arab who let go their past culture and embrace Islam culture. Arab before Islam is actually a no body according to Caliph Umar bin Khatab words.

In Islam no ethnic group is superior since we are all equal and Islamic culture is not linked to Arab culture. Anyone who confuses these analogies is a dumb fool who has no knowledge on Islam.

 

[prima99]

you are the one who dont know shit about indonesia..

i'm not talking about the history here, i'm talking about the present
look at aceh right now, they embraced syariah islam and turn their island into a shit hole, there is no major development there..

this is just one example..

and about the BOM

here is the list

1) Bom Filipina embassy (2000)
2) 13 Oktober 2003, Abdul Jabbar, Faturrahman al Ghozi dan Edi Sutiono
3) Bom in malaysia embasy (2000)
4) Bom BEJ (2000)
5) BOM at the night chrismast (2000)
6) BOM bali 1 & 2
7) BOM mabes (2003)
8) BOM bandara cengkareng (2003)
9) BOM JW marriot (2003)

the list is too long..
Welcome To Little Angel World: DAFTAR TRAGEDI BOM DI INDONESIA

yeah, you definitely don't know jack shit about indonesia.

yes i know about terrorism, yes i know about the bombings. as if it's not obvious, i can also point out the bombing incidents as well.

Terorisme di Indonesia - Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia, ensiklopedia bebas

so? what is terrorism has anything to do about Arab or Islam in general? you don't know that the Islamic Radical Movement is EVERYWHERE in the WORLD? heck, do you even know what ISIS is?

are you generalizing that Islam is Terrorism? what about the Christians doing in Slaughtering Muslims back in the Crusade Ages?

or what about the Buddhist Slaughter of Muslims in Burma? you thought only your Religion is the Religion of Peace? LOL how laughable

i can put all crimes Responsible by EACH religions in the world. but it'll be too much for you to handle.

even worse, you don't know that Terrorism in Indonesia has started WAY BACK in 1942? sigh.. seriously..

Negara Islam Indonesia - Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia, ensiklopedia bebas

you don't learn history in school do you? Aceh is NEVER part of Indonesia to begin with. they're not ex-dutch colonial area, but Portuguese colonial. THEY WANT the Syariah System and they've been doing it since 1953.

Aceh - Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia, ensiklopedia bebas

Aceh yang semula bergabung dengan Indonesia dengan jaminan Soekarno akan menerapkan syariat Islam, merasa kecewa karena syariat Islam tidak dijadikan sebagai landasan negara. Sehingga pada tanggal 13 Muharram 1372 H/21 September1953 M, Teungku Muhammad Daud Beureu'eh atas nama rakyat Aceh mengumumkan bergabung dengan Negara Islam Indonesia yang didirikan oleh Kartosoewirjo.[20]

Aceh owns their Land, as we Indonesia own OURS. they want Syariah, we give them. it's their choice so you have no shit to say to them, ever. simple, no?

also i Demand the proof of Suicide Bombing, not Terrorist Bombing. just one example like what happened in the church in 2003 isn't enough to justify that we did series of Suicide Bombings like you claim we did.

 

[Indos]

In Islam no ethnic group is superior since we are all equal and Islamic culture is not linked to Arab culture. Anyone who confuses these analogies is a dumb fool who has no knowledge on Islam.

Yup right brother, superiority in Islam concept is based on his fate, heart, and conduct. If some one is backed by his God because of his faith and moral, we call it as superior than someone who is not backed.

 

[Phukimak]

yeah, you definitely don't know jack shit about indonesia.

yes i know about terrorism, yes i know about the bombings. as if it's not obvious, i can also point out the bombing incidents as well.

Terorisme di Indonesia - Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia, ensiklopedia bebas

so? what is terrorism has anything to do about Arab or Islam in general? you don't know that the Islamic Radical Movement is EVERYWHERE in the WORLD? heck, do you even know what ISIS is?

are you generalizing that Islam is Terrorism? what about the Christians doing in Slaughtering Muslims back in the Crusade Ages?

or what about the Buddhist Slaughter of Muslims in Burma? you thought only your Religion is the Religion of Peace? LOL how laughable

i can put all crimes Responsible by EACH religions in the world. but it'll be too much for you to handle.

even worse, you don't know that Terrorism in Indonesia has started WAY BACK in 1942? sigh.. seriously..

Negara Islam Indonesia - Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia, ensiklopedia bebas

you don't learn history in school do you? Aceh is NEVER part of Indonesia to begin with. they're not ex-dutch colonial area, but Portuguese colonial. THEY WANT the Syariah System and they've been doing it since 1953.

Aceh - Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia, ensiklopedia bebas

Aceh yang semula bergabung dengan Indonesia dengan jaminan Soekarno akan menerapkan syariat Islam, merasa kecewa karena syariat Islam tidak dijadikan sebagai landasan negara. Sehingga pada tanggal 13 Muharram 1372 H/21 September1953 M, Teungku Muhammad Daud Beureu'eh atas nama rakyat Aceh mengumumkan bergabung dengan Negara Islam Indonesia yang didirikan oleh Kartosoewirjo.[20]

Aceh owns their Land, as we Indonesia own OURS. they want Syariah, we give them. it's their choice so you have no shit to say to them, ever. simple, no?

also i Demand the proof of Suicide Bombing, not Terrorist Bombing. just one example like what happened in the church in 2003 isn't enough to justify that we did series of Suicide Bombings like you claim we did.

so aceh is never part of indonesia ha?
nice to hear that

you want a proof of suicide bombing? but wont accept terrorist bombing?

what the **** is that mean?
how about his one?

Rangkaian aksi bom bunuh diri di Indonesia - BBC Indonesia

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Yup right brother, superiority in Islam concept is based on his fate, heart, and conduct. If some one is backed by his God because of his faith and moral, we call it as superior than someone who is not backed.

Do it to others what you want others to do it to you.

Unfortunately too many Muslims including those in Indonesia think that shitting on non Sunni is doing God's work.

 

[prima99]

Do it to others what you want others to do it to you.

Unfortunately too many Muslims including those in Indonesia think that shitting on non Sunni is doing God's work.

Extrimists are Extrimists. you can't group Extrimists with common people with their own religion, PERIOD.

every country and every religion has their own fanatics. they can shit on others as much as i care, for as long as they don't try pick their shit with me or i'll break their heads, very hard.

you can ask common people with islam as their religion in Indonesia. i assure you, nobody give a shit about other people religion. the ones who keeps doing that are Extrimist, and again, you can't put commoners with Extrimist in one shoe.

also indonesia is one of the Muslim Majority country that allows their people to drink Beer, while Beers are BANNED in most Islamic countries. so yeah, we're cool

 

[Indos]

Do it to others what you want others to do it to you.

Unfortunately too many Muslims including those in Indonesia think that shitting on non Sunni is doing God's work.

Yup, right. But it is just voice, a recent Salafist has that moral but not action though, and they are so small in numbers. Some Indonesian in Madura island (NU region/ traditional Islam/ not a salafist) do some action though, they make many Shiah homeless and leave their place. I am against that action personally. Government has provided shelter and housing for those homeless Shiah.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Yup, right. But it is just voice, a recent Salafist has that moral but not action though, and they are so small in numbers. Some Indonesian in Madura island (NU region/ traditional Islam/ not a salafist) do some action though, they make many Shiah homeless and leave their place. I am against that action personally. Government has provided shelter and housing for those homeless Shiah.

Extrimists are Extrimists. you can't group Extrimists with common people with their own religion, PERIOD.

every country and every religion has their own fanatics. they can shit on others as much as i care, for as long as they don't try pick their shit with me or i'll break their heads, very hard.

you can ask common people with islam as their religion in Indonesia. i assure you, nobody give a shit about other people religion. the ones who keeps doing that are Extrimist, and again, you can't put commoners with Extrimist in one shoe.

also indonesia is one of the Muslim Majority country that allows their people to drink Beer, while Beers are BANNED in most Islamic countries. so yeah, we're cool

Yes, I agree Indonesia is good. But 18% support apostasy capital punishment is still a lot. Bosnia who got a lot of shit still care less about someone converting to Christian.

Malaysia is crackpot.