Please read again. I said Zhou Enlai offered weapons (riffles) to PKI, the communist party, the offer was not for Indonesia the country nor it was for Sukarno.
PKI wanted to create a Fifth Arm Force (outside of Police, Army, Navy, and Air Force) by arming it's workers and farmers organization. For this plan, Zhou Enlai promised arms donation to PKI. Of course China was not rich at the time, therefore their offer is merely rifles, not advance weapons like ship or plane like the Soviet Russia did.
Sukarno was his in his final years, he was gravely ill in 1965. The PKI need to strengthen themselves to take over the country after Sukarno's death, hence the Fifth Force plan.
The plan got strongest resistance from the army which lead to the assassination of the army generals in 30 Sept. coup.
Sukarno himself was not a communist nor was his government. He was just using communist as ally to get what he wants that's all.
And don't think we got that weapons from Soviet for free, we paid them. It's a I scratch your back, you scratch mine type of relationship for both Indonesia and Soviet. Indonesia want New Guinea, Soviet Russia wanted a strong ally in the south to curb western influence. After Sukarno was dethroned, all that soviet weapons turned into junks as Soviet embargoed us.
Unfair treatment?.. everyone suffered unfair treatment during Suharto rule not just chinese. Suharto only favored those who close to and support him. Among his inner circle were chinese Indonesian. His closest friend is Liem Sioe Liong whose family remain among the wealthiest in Indonesia today.
After Suharto, our govt. has taken many steps to mend and improve things over the years. We are sorry for ALL the victims not just to chinese indonesia. However we don't owe any apology to you, China nor the world as the fallen victim are Indonesia nationals.
It's like a bus of 100 passengers, 98 non-chinese and 2 chinese which got into accident, all dead in the same accident, but you focus only on two chinese death, demand special treatment and apology, like all others are nothing. That's unfair.
Oh hi false flagger.. Unlike you, I was there in Maluku during much of the peak of religious conflict. Chinese christian there donate their money for for buying weapons, etc for christian militia, help smuggle them as well. Of course in the media their ethnicity is very rarely disclosed but everybody know the wealthy christians in Maluku were Chinese.
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"Please read again. I said Zhou Enlai offered weapons (riffles) to PKI, the communist party, the offer was not for Indonesia the country nor it was for Sukarno.
PKI wanted to create a Fifth Arm Force (outside of Police, Army, Navy, and Air Force) by arming it's workers and farmers organization. For this plan, Zhou Enlai promised arms donation to PKI. Of course China was not rich at the time, therefore their offer is merely rifles, not advance weapons like ship or plane like the Soviet Russia did.
Sukarno was his in his final years, he was gravely ill in 1965. The PKI need to strengthen themselves to take over the country after Sukarno's death, hence the Fifth Force plan.
The plan got strongest resistance from the army which lead to the assassination of the army generals in 30 Sept. coup."
Anyway, it's indoensian govt in the first place need communism supports. what happend after the army revolution, they could pour any dirty water, as much as they wanted, justiy for masscre.
"Sukarno himself was not a communist nor was his government. He was just using communist as ally to get what he wants that's all.
And don't think we got that weapons from Soviet for free, we paid them. It's a
I scratch your back, you scratch mine type of relationship for both Indonesia and Soviet. Indonesia want New Guinea, Soviet Russia wanted a strong ally in the south to curb western influence. After Sukarno was dethroned, all that soviet weapons turned into junks as Soviet embargoed us."
Before 1963, when Indonesia had distues with Holland, Indonesia need communism USSR more than USSR need Indonesia.
" After Suharto, our govt. has taken many steps to mend and improve things over the years."
Could you please introduce more details about the steps? I want to know it. And how is the feedback of those steps.
"However we don't owe any apology to you, China nor the world as the fallen victim are Indonesia nationals."
some of you guys indonesian really have stubborn brain. The similar content I read again and again every time I talk with indonesian. apologize to the Chinese lived in Indonesia killed, tortured unfairly if your nation still want to unify them, want stable politics,,,,,not to China or to me, Heaven, you consider too much thing.
"It's like a bus of 100 passengers, 98 non-chinese and 2 chinese which got into accident, all dead in the same accident, but you focus only on two chinese death, demand special treatment and apology, like all others are nothing. That's unfair."
They are minority in your nation. They are like small boats in angry ocean. In the first place, it's anti-communism. But when communism thing was over, slowly it turned into racism problem, religional problem, those all the bad result continue one by one. I don't need to worry about your situation, you are one of majority ethnic or muslim.
