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Malala Yusufzai: Victim of Barbaric Terror and Dirty Politics

No NATO force on Afghan border means no results from the NW operation. If NATO agrees to our demand to star an operation from Afgan border while we start in NW , we may well be able to deliver the knockout punch.
 
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You have yet to see how difficult and sensitive it is to fight an enemy that is within ones own population. The Russians did in Chechnya. The Serbs did it in Bosnia. Syrians are going through the same. These things if not done right have a tendency to explode out of control. There is no way the army wants to sign off on such a disaster already waiting to happen. The correct way maybe a little late has been employed last 2 years by breaking the enemy into smaller factions, causing infighting, cutting off money and weapons, assassinating their leaders and then slowly infiltrating in the commotion to plant heads. These techniques were successfully employed by western and jewish generals in previous wars to with great success. The KKK and irish and italian mob's were nothing less than the TTP back in the 70's and 80's for the Americans. It took them the considerable part of 20 - 30 years and huge amounts of man power to dismantle their enemies. To this day they have large areas under their control but work within the boundaries of the law. You as an Indian should pray that all hell does not break lose in this country, cause the real nightmare would be for the neighbors. We all are pretty well accustomed to our surroundings and actually work very well within this anarchy.
 
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What is the objective of NWA operation?

Kill a certain leader? Kill MO? Kill all Taliban?

At max what we will achieve is to drive them out of NWA to Afghanistan and from there they will come back to Pakistan again.

Like the Swat operation, Fazlullah ran to Afghanistan and Nato, ISAF, Afghan forces did squat to nab him and till today he operates from Afghanistan and it is from Afghanistan he ordered the hit on Malala.

It seems to me that, we need to do an Operation on Afghanistan first. NWA Taliban did not order the hit on Malala. They are bad and have to be driven out of Pak, no doubt. But if Malala is the reason to do an Op, we need to attack Afghanistan and the anti-Pak sancturies there.
 
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What is the objective of NWA operation?

Kill a certain leader? Kill MO? Kill all Taliban?

At max what we will achieve is to drive them out of NWA to Afghanistan and from there they will come back to Pakistan again.

Like the Swat operation, Fazlullah ran to Afghanistan and Nato, ISAF, Afghan forces did squat to nab him and till today he operates from Afghanistan and it is from Afghanistan he ordered the hit on Malala.

It seems to me that, we need to do an Operation on Afghanistan first. NWA Taliban did not order the hit on Malala. They are bad and have to be driven out of Pak, no doubt. But if Malala is the reason to do an Op, we need to attack Afghanistan and the anti-Pak sancturies there.

Joint operations with NATO , they are our allies any way
 
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Yes..let them into NWA.
They failed miserably in Afghanistan...let them handle NWA.
Are you Pakistani or false flag troll?

Where does it say to let NATO in our lands ?? NATO can operate from Afghanistan we can cover our end ! whats wrong with that ? the ultimate worry is militants will slip back into Afghanistan if PA attacks NW , What other options you have ?? except negotiating with these ba$trds.
 
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Joint operations with NATO , they are our allies any way

Yeah but explain to me the logic, that the Malala attacker came from Afghanistan, shot a girl who spoke against Fazlullah, Fazlullah is in Afghanistan and we need to do an Op on NWA?

Let's do Joint Op with Nato on Afghanistan! Let's get Fazlullah first!

Afterall they are our ALLIES, whats a little Op between Allies?
 
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Yeah but explain to me the logic, that the Malala attacker came from Afghanistan, shot a girl who spoke against Fazlullah, Fazlullah is in Afghanistan and we need to do an Op on NWA?

Let's do Joint Op with Nato on Afghanistan! Let's get Fazlullah first!

But Fazlullah isn't in your territory.

Why not take care of some folks who are occupying a good chunk of land in your and my country first?

This way, every other attack comes from Afghanistan. Kamra attack, Mehran attack and most others were plotted by people sitting in A-stan (heard it from somebody), so let's just bomb the hell out of A-stan then? While US bombs the hell out of NWA because every attack against the US comes from NWA (as they say).

Why not clear our land first, and then either kill them in cooperation with NATo/ISAF, or flush them into A-stan and let them be a headache for ISAF while we secure our border. The second option does seem a bit tough to accomplish (only effective border control can achieve that), but what about first option? Afterall US has been the main advocate of the NWA op, and now when we are finally going to do it, why wouldn't they cooperate with us?
 
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Yeah but explain to me the logic, that the Malala attacker came from Afghanistan, shot a girl who spoke against Fazlullah, Fazlullah is in Afghanistan and we need to do an Op on NWA?

Let's do Joint Op with Nato on Afghanistan! Let's get Fazlullah first!

Afterall they are our ALLIES, whats a little Op between Allies?

Malalah is A reason out of 40000 more we have
 
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But Fazlullah isn't in your territory.

Why not take care of some folks who are occupying a good chunk of land in your and my country first?
Actually I was arguing on the logic of linking Malala to NWA operation. I think in due time an operation is necessary and ultimately total sovereignty should be extended by the Pakistani state on all its territory.

If it will get us some benefit to weed out these guys, then why not. These are like 5000 guys in the HN, for 5000 guys do we really need to bomb NWA to the stone age? Its a big piece of land afterall. If they are not doing anything to Pak, then why poke the hornets nest. The idea from day 1 has been that they will leave back to Afghanistan when Nato leaves.

Nato is leaving by 2014, so let them go back to Afghanistan and call it a day. Right now you'll go there guns blazing, and will end up fighting til 2025 in some way or the other. You will kill a few innocents whose survivors would go join the Taliban and then repeat this cycle.

This way, every other attack comes from Afghanistan. Kamra attack, Mehran attack and most others were plotted by people sitting in A-stan (heard it from somebody), so let's just bomb the hell out of A-stan then? While US bombs the hell out of NWA because every attack against the US comes from NWA (as they say).
That means NWA is not attacking us, Afghanistan is!

Why not clear our land first, and then either kill them in cooperation with NATo/ISAF, or flush them into A-stan and let them be a headache for ISAF while we secure our border. The second option does seem a bit tough to accomplish (only effective border control can achieve that), but what about first option? Afterall US has been the main advocate of the NWA op, and now when we are finally going to do it, why wouldn't they cooperate with us?

Why don't they clear their lands first? Of course they have the same strategy, "bide your time and then leave". Then we'll have to deal with Afghanistan and NWA if we do an Op now.

Nato has withdrawn so many soldiers already that I doubt it even has the capability to blockade an influx of HN fighters escaping into Afghanistan.
 
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Malalah is A reason out of 40000 more we have

Filhaal toh Malala ke naam pe hi yeh NWA operation ki syasat chamkai ja rahi hai.

Mind you 40,000 were killed in a variety of ways.

Many were soldiers, many were victims of bombings in urban cities (which includes, Punjabi Taliban, TTP, Shia-Sunni killings, minority killings)... All which have squat to do with HN.

NWA is a broad term. Let's talk specifically on HN. If there are TTP in NWA why not, kill them. But there still is no need to attack HN's 5000 guys.
 
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Filhaal toh Malala ke naam pe hi yeh NWA operation ki syasat chamkai ja rahi hai.

That's all there is at this time. Siyasat. Every other Tom, Dick and Harry going for ayadat!

Will reply to your other post later.
 
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Babar Sattar

It often takes an egregious event for us to be shaken out of our slumber and see things clearly for what they are. Salmaan Taseer spoke up against the abuse of the blasphemy law and our religious bigots branded him a heretic and even celebrated his murderer. It took the persecution of the 14-year old Rimsha Masih, and a vile prayer leader attempting to frame her, for people to gather the courage once again to speak of the flaws in our blasphemy law. Likewise, it has taken an abhorrent attack on another 14-year old, the zestful and courageous Malala Yousafzai, for us to admit the cancer that the TTP is.

The TTP (“savages and beasts,” as the Senate resolution put it without naming them) has been practising barbarism in the name of Islam and takes pride in being feared merchants of cruelty. They have established suicide factories that transform 10-year-olds into human bombs. They have been slitting the throats of their opponents (including Pakistani soldiers) and filming such gruesomeness for marketing purposes. They have indiscriminately attacked military establishments, personnel and civilians. And they have systematically eliminated state officials and leaders within the society whose resolve to stand up to these savages has been visible and deemed contagious.


Malala has been attacked because she fell within this category of people who refused to endorse their retrograde worldview or be coerced into submission. What can be more contagious (and scary for the TTP) than the refusal of a 14-year-old girl to be afraid? What will the brutes and the bullies do if ordinary people refuse to be cowed down? But what is startling is that despite the across-the-board concern for Malala’s health and wellbeing, many of our political and thought leaders still lack the moral clarity, or the courage, to identify the TTP as the murderous thugs that they are.


“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,” Edmund Burke had argued. And he was right. This is not about bravado. (If Malala has taught us a lesson, it is that we don’t need guns but clarity of thought and the courage of conviction to stand up to tyranny.) This is not about US imperialistic policies or the anger that post-9/11 US wars have provoked within Muslim societies. No amount of evilness attributed to the US can rationalise the actions of a religion-inspired militant group that tyrannises fellow citizens and fights the state with the aim to capture it.


And this is not about drones. Drones are a bad idea for state sovereignty and international legal order. Their legitimacy will threaten international peace by giving pre-emptive self-defence a new meaning. As a weapon system drones cause collateral damage and undermine due process of law. But the Taliban did not become barbarians because the US started using drones. The collateral damage caused by them might have opened up a new recruitment arena for the Taliban, but let’s not confuse cause and effect.

Leaders have the ability to do a few things that set them apart from their followers. They can bring the spotlight to an issue. They can define the underlying problem. And they can offer solutions. Imran Khan’s peace march to Tank was commendable because it did the first thing: it brought within our contemplation the fact that Fata is a part of Pakistan. But that is all it did right.

Imran Khan’s prognosis of the root cause for “violence” (the tongue-in-cheek reference to the TTP’s terrorist ways hardy acknowledged explicitly) – i.e., the US presence in Afghanistan – is wrong. In highlighting the anguish of innocent civilians in the tribal belt, omitting the mention of cruelty being inflicted on them by the TTP is disingenuous, if not outright dishonest. And the proposed solution to fixing our broken Fata – i.e., unleashing willing tribesmen on the Taliban – is not just simplistic but also unconstitutional. Isn’t misrepresenting problems worse then refusing to talk about them?


Our centre-left liberal political parties, all in government at the moment, are guilty of being wimpy. They do not have the nerve to stand up against bigotry and intolerance even when they understand the evil. The bigots riled up against Salmaan Taseer and the ruling parties backed down. The TTP has been targeting members of the PPP and the ANP and their kin at will, and yet these parties have manifested lack of courage and will to fight the TTP. The crime of our ruling regime is one of omission. But is Imran Khan rendering himself liable to the charge of misrepresentation?


Speaking at the Karan Thapar show recently, Imran Khan refused to name names (Jamaat-ud-Dawa and Hafiz Saeed) while asserting that he will eradicate all militant groups if voted to power. His excuse was that Pakistan has become a very polarised place, as evidenced by Salmaan Taseer’s killing, and there was no point trying to become a hero who someone might shoot. He said something similar in Talat Hussain’s show while speaking of the attack on Malala. Refusing to condemn the TTP explicitly, he explained that the PTI had workers and supporters in TTP-controlled areas whose safety could be jeopardised if he spoke candidly.



Imran Khan’s position on the role of the army in festering problems confronting Pakistan has been similar. He condemns drones, but not the army that implicitly allows them by clearing Pakistani airspace to avoid accidents. He opposes violence in Balochistan, but not the invidious role of intelligence agencies. His argument is that, legally speaking, the elected civilian government is in charge of the khakis, and if it is impotent enough not to assert control, it ought to resign. The ruling civilian government’s informal justification is admission of weakness.


The PPP-led regime acknowledges that it has little say in relation to drones, Balochistan, the Taliban, Afghanistan and the US, as these things fall within the domain of the khakis. And our history is witness to the treatment meted out to civilian governments when they wade into khaki domain. So how does one understand Imran Khan’s position vis-a-vis religion-inspired militant groups, whether those of the sectarian variety or the TTP? He wants the civilian government to go home if it can’t reign in the khakis and turn theory into practice. But he will not identify and condemn the TTP and other militant outfits because expediency and ground realities advise against it?



It is important to identify the root causes of violence. So let’s start with the homegrown ones that we can address even before we conquer the world. Let’s speak about the abuse of religion by militant groups and religious political parties that act as abettors and apologists for terrorists. Let’s speak about the khaki-contrived ****** project that armed, trained, organised and brainwashed citizen militias to pursue the state’s national security goals. Let’s speak about the willingness of the state to cede its monopoly over violence to “lashkars” in breach of Article 256 of the Constitution and to continue to treat Fata as non-man’s land diving Pakistan and Afghanistan, as opposed to sovereign territory.


There can be legitimate difference of opinion over what would constitute the most effective anti-insurgency strategy for Pakistan. But let us understand that under no conception of rule of law can amnesty be offered to wilful and unrepentant criminals, that unconditional offer of peace to terrorists is capitulation, and refusing to condemn those admitting their crimes is appeasement. We need national resolve to fight the cancer of intolerance and violence epitomised by the TTP. And we must judge the leaders who are timid, confused or simply unwilling to take a candid position on this most crucial aspect of state.
 
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Irfan Husain


AS young Malala Yousufzai struggles for her life, spare a thought for Imran Khan whose recent high profile motorcade to Tank has been completely overshadowed by the cowardly attack on the 14-year old girl.

But apart from losing all the publicity the PTI leader was hoping to get, he has also lost the argument he was trying to build against the American drone campaign. Correct me if I’m wrong — and I’m sure many of Imran Khan’s supporters will — but his argument runs something like this:

Once American drone strikes cease, and the Pakistan Army halts all operations in the tribal areas, then militancy will automatically die down. How? By the tribes throwing out the hardline militants who, according to Khan, make up a tiny proportion of the Pakistani Taliban and their ilk.

But all evidence points to the decimation of tribal leaders with the courage to stand up to the terrorists who have infested and taken over their villages. Every time they have tried to raise a lashkar to fight the militants, they have been gunned down, blown up, or beheaded. According to the South Asia Terrorism Portal, a website on terrorism in South Asia, 109 tribal elders have been killed by terrorists in the last seven years.

The other thing Imran Khan is apparently keen on is that we negotiate with the thugs who attacked Malala Yousufzai. He forgets that there have been many talks and truces with these killers, and every agreement has been broken by them. When the provincial government handed over Swat to Mullah Fazlullah and his gang in 2008, they not only terrorised the population, but soon tried to take over Malakand.

However, what got the army moving was the video clip of a young woman being flogged publicly by the Taliban in 2009. Public anger pushed the administration into action, and Fazlullah’s militia was finally driven out of the valley.

But it seems they can still attack there with impunity. Perhaps their attempt on Malala’s life will be a similar tipping point, and public revulsion will put pressure on the government to step up the campaign to rid us of extremist militancy.

While Imran Khan dubbed his recent motorcade a peace march, he seemed to be calling for surrender: ‘peace’ implies a cessation of hostilities by both parties.

Here, Khan is calling on the Americans to stop targeting terrorists with their drones, and on the Pakistan Army to halt all operations in the area. But to the best of my knowledge, he has not called on the militants to also cease their attacks on state and civilian targets within Pakistan.

Despite his courtship of the religious right, he has been rebuffed by the Pakistani Taliban who denounced him as a ‘Westernised liberal’.

There is delicious irony here as Khan never tires of applying the same label to his critics. But the Taliban made it very clear that he is not welcome on their turf, and this is the reason he and his convoy turned back at Tank without entering South Waziristan.

So if the Taliban decide who can enter where they operate, clearly the state has no control over the area. The question then arises if we can claim sovereignty here. This is important because the main thrust of the protest over American drones is based on the charge that they violate our sovereignty. Can we make this claim without control over the territory?

The other issue, of course, is one of collateral damage: several studies and reports purporting to count the cost of drone attacks have come up with conflicting numbers.

A recent one, commissioned by the human rights organisation Reprieve, and carried out by Stanford and New York universities, has come out with anecdotal accounts based on conversations with a small sample of selected locals.

The unambiguous conclusion of the report is that drones not only inflict unacceptable civilian casualties and psychological damage, they do little to solve the problem.

However, other studies and reports are not as critical. A New American Foundation analysis cited by Peter Bergen in a CNN report suggests that under Obama, civilian fatalities were 11 per cent of the total killed in the drone campaign, and stand at two per cent in 2012. Conversely, the number of militants killed is 89 per cent of the fatalities.

While even a single death is tragic, few in the anti-drone camp talk about the tens of thousands of civilians and soldiers slaughtered by the militants. They are similarly silent about the hundreds of schools blown up by the Taliban. How many Malalas have been deprived of an education because of the stone-age mentality of these killers?

In talks I have given at universities in the US, the UK and Pakistan, I have been frequently asked about the drone attacks.

In response, I have posed a counter-question: if the drone attacks are stopped, what is the alternative? Should we allow these armed gangs to continue making life hell for the unfortunate villagers they hide behind? Should the Americans permit them to cross the border at will and launch attacks across Afghanistan?

For people like Imran Khan urging the governments of Pakistan and the US to halt their operations against the Pakistani Taliban, here is a sobering voice: in an article (Pakistan’s Peace Deals with the Taliban) on the Combating Terrorism Centre website, Daud Khattak concludes:

“None of the agreements with Taliban factions involved in attacks on Pakistan lasted more than a few months, and the breaking of each agreement resulted in severe bouts of violence including attacks on government installations, security forces and civilians.

“From the Taliban’s perspective, by levelling demands at the government and then entering into negotiations, it demonstrates to civilians in the tribal areas that militant leaders are strong enough to sit at the same table as the country’s top military officials. This solidifies support for the Taliban among their followers, and suppresses the voices of resistance from civilian populations living under their authority.”

The reality is that the Taliban understand — as Imran Khan and his supporters do not — that they must pull down the whole country to their primitive level if they are to succeed in their ambition to seize control of the state.

This is just what their Afghan cousins did when they were in power. They see talks as a tactic and not as a path to peace.

Ultimately, their attack on Malala demolishes the anti-drone argument in a way no reasoned argument ever could.
 
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