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Pakistan will be proud if your trashiness. You are a role model lol.

I fought him because he was talking sh*t about me. I didn't go on a Indian forum to vent out my anger or lash out against all indians. I am not trying to be a role model or make anyone proud. So keep your negative posts to yourself and stay outta my Business.
 
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I fought him because he was talking sh*t about me. I didn't go on a Indian forum to vent out my anger or lash out against all indians. I am not trying to be a role model or make anyone proud. So keep your negative posts to yourself and stay outta my Business.

If you want others to stay out of your business , stop acting like a street thug. Nobody wants to listen to your prison stories or your lifestyle.
 
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If you want others to stay out of your business , stop acting like a street thug. Nobody wants to listen to your prison stories or your lifestyle.

LMAO! Hahaha! That's one of the funniest things I heard on this forum. You made my day.
Let me make somethings clear to you First of all I don't act.Second How does me being or not being a street thug concern you?? Who are you? And third the discussion was between me and Qamar.

And another thing If you are under the impression that I fought that Indian guy because of his ethnicity or something.Then you are mistaken.His sister was my friend before that incident. Then again I don't wanna discuss that anymore.
 
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Making peace with Israel does not go against any aspect of Islam, in fact Islam wants peace and respect for all people, regardless of faith.

The reality is that the Palestinians themselves have diplomatic relations with Israel, so does Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, Lebanon. Also the GCC arabs have indirect relations with Israel and Saudi Arabia is in harmony with Israel - both have similar interests - syria, Iran, Hezbollah and hence may have been cooperating under the radar. SA wants the US to stop the Iranian bomb as much Israel and so on.

Thus the reality that there is absolutely no reason to rethink Israel-Palestine problem and come up with a workable and acceptable two nations. The status of Jerusalem will need to be discussed and some arrangement made. An arrangement that works for all three stakeholders of this city.

If we do not work towards peace, then watch as whatever land has been left for the Palestinians also being gobbled up by the right wing Israelis who will continously point to their security and morally shut the mouth of the world powers.

We need to reclaim the moral ground and show we are a mature bunch willing to seek and implement peaceful solutions.

Jerusalem is always the main sticking point. Perhaps some sort of free city? Belonging to neither nation and international. Kind of like Washington DC is not in any state, as it would have been troublesome in the days when the "States" were treated more like separate nations.
 
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LMAO! Hahaha! That's one of the funniest things I heard on this forum. You made my day.
Let me make somethings clear to you First of all I don't act.Second How does me being or not being a street thug concern you?? Who are you? And third the discussion was between me and Qamar.

And another thing If you are under the impression that I fought that Indian guy because of his ethnicity or something.Then you are mistaken.His sister was my friend before that incident. Then again I don't wanna discuss that anymore.
good to know..
 
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Poll: Jewish majority more important than West Bank sovereignty - National Israel News | Haaretz


Almost two-thirds of Israeli Jews believe it is more important for their country to maintain a Jewish majority than to maintain sovereignty over the West Bank. Only 21 percent feel maintaining sovereignty over the West Bank is more important than preserving the Jewish majority and 7 percent believe both are equally important.

These were among the findings of the 2013 Israeli Democracy Index, published Sunday by the Guttman Center for Surveys at the Israel Democracy Institute. The index, released annually since 2003, measures trends in public opinion.

The findings also indicate what might be considered a softening in attitudes of Jewish Israelis toward the country’s Arab citizens. About 44 percent of Jewish respondents said this year that they favored government policies that encourage Arab emigration, down from 51 percent in 2010 and 54 percent in 2009 – the last two times this question was asked in the survey.

Similarly, the survey shows that Arabs no longer top the list of neighbors Israeli Jews would consider undesirable, replaced now by foreign workers. Almost 57 percent of Jewish respondents said that having foreign workers as neighbors would bother them. Next in line among those considered undesirable neighbors for Israeli Jews were an Arab family (48 percent), a homosexual couple (30.5 percent), ultra-Orthodox Jews (21 percent) and Shabbat desecrators (10 percent).

Slightly over 46 percent of Arab respondents said that having homosexual neighbors would bother them. Next in line among those considered undesirable neighbors for Arab Israelis were a Jewish family (42 percent) and foreign workers (31 percent).

The Israeli Democracy Index bases itself on a representative sample of 1,000 Israeli adults. The following are some other key findings published on Sunday:

A substantial majority of Jewish Israelis (63 percent) believes soldiers do not have the right to refuse to serve in the West Bank because they oppose the occupation. Slightly over half believe soldiers do not have the right to disobey an order to evacuate settlements either.

More than half of Israeli Jews (52 percent) believe that human and civil rights organizations, such as the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI) and B’Tselem, harm the state, while 36 percent disagree.

Overall, young Israeli Jews are more patriotic and right-wing in their leanings than their elders.

Close to half (49 percent) of all Israeli Jews believe that Jewish citizens should have more rights than non-Jewish citizens.

Most Jews feel that critical national decisions should be determined by a Jewish majority, both on matters of peace and security (67 percent) and on socioeconomic issues (57 percent).

Roughly one out of every three Israeli Jews (31 percent) believes that only Jews should determine the outcome of a referendum on peace that includes withdrawal from the West Bank.

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LOL! Yeah make peace with these peace loving people! :rofl:

Are you Palestinian? If you are,I have some questions I'd like to ask if you don't mind?
 
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Yes I am, and sure.

Well my 1st question was about P.L.O what happened to them? Are they even still active? The 2nd question was about C'aanites who I believe were Black Arabs,Why did some jews declare war on them? 3rd was about the Wailing wall of jersusalem why is it still disputed? and can people visit it?
 
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Well my 1st question was about P.L.O what happened to them? Are they even still active? The 2nd question was about C'aanites who I believe were Black Arabs,Why did some jews declare war on them? 3rd was about the Wailing wall of jersusalem why is it still disputed? and can people visit it?

The PLO is technically still here, they sort of govern the Palestinian Territories in the West Bank. They are not what they used to be though. And no longer have an active military wing. They also governed Gaza until after elections, Hamas won them in 2006 and they refused to give control and were attacking Hamas security men until the military wing of Hamas decided it was time to respond. Now Hamas governs Gaza.

As for the Jews and Caanites, Jews believed they were justified in doing so because God had commanded them to do so. I don't believe they were black Arabs either. Some Syrians, Lebanese and Palestinians today are technically Caanites, or Phoenician.

If you mean the Jewish place of worship, the wall itself is not disputed. But, the Jews keep making claims that their third temple will be built in place of the Dome of the Rock Mosque which is very holy in Islam. Somewhere between there and the Aqsa Mosque. Sometimes Israeli settlers go and riot and rant about how they will destroy it one day and build their temple so their Messiah can arrive. So it upsets Palestinians and Muslims when Israel puts troops or settlers into the mosque as a way to humiliate them. People can visit, although me, I am a refugee and my family are refugees who were displaced and now live in Gaza and have been for decades. I'm not allowed to visit those holy sites or Israel for that matter, even though I have American citizenship. They won't let me.

Did that answer your questions somewhat? :)
 
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Who the hell wants peace Israel, we hate jews any fair opinion poll would show 90 percent plus of pakistanis want israel burned into the ground

A post on a forum from the few percent that doesn't, doesn't mean anything

The politicians who make peace with Israel will be hanging from his balls by a lamppost the next day

20 percent of Israel is Muslim keep the number growing keep the hatred strong and they will be broken eventually

Then you will be waiting a long time. The thing is the people who are expert at surviving are the Jews - so all we will have done is made the land grabbers stronger and more of Palestine will have been taken and how do you propose to get that back. Outgrowing a population will not happen, and even if it became so, the Israel will still remain only bigger.

Again I come back to point a large part of the Muslim world has relations and even SA offered diplomatic relations in return for the acceptance of the refugees, but the space for such give and take was not there due to the violence in the region.

It is time to re-look at the plan, the old one did not work.

Arabs and Jews are cousins not you Pakistani
Identity crises :hitwall:

Jews, Christians and Muslims are different branches of the same tree. So yes we can use the word cousins to describe our connection. Thus do not understand what your are talking about, or just putting in your oar for the sake of it.
 
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The PLO is technically still here, they sort of govern the Palestinian Territories in the West Bank. They are not what they used to be though. And no longer have an active military wing. They also governed Gaza until after elections, Hamas won them in 2006 and they refused to give control and were attacking Hamas security men until the military wing of Hamas decided it was time to respond. Now Hamas governs Gaza.

As for the Jews and Caanites, Jews believed they were justified in doing so because God had commanded them to do so. I don't believe they were black Arabs either. Some Syrians, Lebanese and Palestinians today are technically Caanites, or Phoenician.

If you mean the Jewish place of worship, the wall itself is not disputed. But, the Jews keep making claims that their third temple will be built in place of the Dome of the Rock Mosque which is very holy in Islam. Somewhere between there and the Aqsa Mosque. Sometimes Israeli settlers go and riot and rant about how they will destroy it one day and build their temple so their Messiah can arrive. So it upsets Palestinians and Muslims when Israel puts troops or settlers into the mosque as a way to humiliate them. People can visit, although me, I am a refugee and my family are refugees who were displaced and now live in Gaza and have been for decades. I'm not allowed to visit those holy sites or Israel for that matter, even though I have American citizenship. They won't let me.

Did that answer your questions somewhat? :)

I appreciate you answering my questions Thanks!
And I am sorry you can't visit those places.I hope it gets better for you in the future.
 
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No I speak on behalf of all Pakistanis here! None of them want you or your kind here.
You are no one to ask us to leave,You are just a guest here with a bad behavior.
And say what you want about me or my family just know 1 thing in real life. We can decimate you in a fist fight.
I myself can do it and have been doing it in flatbush BK.

That's because you're african. Your only response is a complete and violent one. Incapable of being calm and rational you must chimp out, so to speak.
 
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