We won hands done in kargil with just 200 some howitzers been used . the same old rusted but very trusted baby of our IA lol we won you lost isn't it? .. To start with.
Yeah yeah sure... india has never lost ... Militarily is another story though.
And what is it? A joke?
M284 has a max range of 30 without BB.. It's effective range is 24.5km... BB extends that..
What does it even mean? M284 of A5/6 has maximum range of 30 but BB extends that? . Dude wtf. Effective range is 22km and with BB-RAP it improved to 30 km. That's why it's called maximum range. If you can still increase the range then that range is maximum range and 30 is effective range 22 is minimum range? I can't even form a sentence with what you are trying to say. Pathetic.
Oh okay ... See even our BB shells have a lower range only 8 km (even though they were built in collaboration with Korea.. Meanwhile mighty Indian shells have a range of 15-16 .. Even though India can't produce a half decent tank shell with s penetration power over 450mm..
And see these idiots claiming that the new M284 cannon has a longer range than the older m182 variants...
And on your having this having that. You have what ever you want but give some source. How you got 70 new SPs in 2015 and from whom. Give source...
And don't worry we are happy with our bofors and MbRLs. And we are happy with its future too
The 297 acquisition number was reported by defence news .. The 75 recent were reported by a member with pics of them along with Oplot M,Panhard,M1117 and MBT-3000 in PA service (Oplot M n MBT-3000 or the acquisition of panhards,m1117s etc etc which was never announced by Pak .. Or the acquisition of SH1.... For the matter...
Coz unlike India Pak doesn't have a habit of boasting noise over the smallest thing "decades" before the deals even materialise !
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--- But the vehicles were later seen in action during operations in FATA,Peshawar etc... Oplots n MBT-3000s tests neither the previous purchases & production of A-1000s,Panter productions were ever revealed by PA.."officially"...
Pakistan Pushes Artillery Upgrade Program
By Usman Ansari
Published: 10 October 2011
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ISLAMABAD - Pakistan is consolidating its howitzer inventory around the 155mm round and increasing its MRLS fleet as it strives to boost the lethality of its artillery against India.
Brian Cloughley, former Australian defense attaché to Islamabad and South Asia analyst, said the Army has been modernizing its artillery in recent years as it plans to increase fully mechanized formations.
"There was no apocalyptic moment; it came about because of a normal reassessment of tactics and strategy consistent with the doctrine of 'hold and strike.' For rapid, if deliberately limited, advance, [self propelled] artillery is vital," Cloughley said.
The main acquisitions are at least 297 M-109A5 155mm self-propelled howitzers that have been supplied since 2007 under a $56 million deal made in 2006, and local production of the Turkish MKEK Panter towed 155mm howitzers, by Heavy Industries Taxila's Heavy Mechanical Complex, after 12 were delivered for evaluation in 2007.
Analyst Haris Khan of the Pakistan Military Consortium think tank said the 155mm Panter howitzer has been a substantial improvement over existing guns.
He cites a combination of the Turkish Panter, with the American AN/TPQ-36 Firefinder and Chinese SLC-2 radars, as improving the accuracy of Pakistan's long-range artillery "under a variety of weather conditions at all ranges."
Cloughley highlights a mid-2008 deal with Nexter for the production of 155mm artillery rounds, plus the acquisition of 10 Turkish artillery simulators, which began to enter service with the School of Artillery in 2008 in this regard.
Investment also has been made in long-range MLRS capability. This included evaluation and then procurement of 36 Chinese AR1A/A100E 300mm MLRSs - first displayed to the public during last year's New Resolve military maneuvers.
"Even though [the Army has] a wide array of short-range ballistic missiles, it wanted a larger caliber long-range MRLS capable of firing smart submunitions," Khan said.
This led to the evaluation of the Chinese Wei Shi series of MRLS and signing of a contract with China National Precision Machinery Import and Export Corp. in 2009 to procure the NORINCO-developed 300mm MLRS, he said.
The system differs from previous Chinese 300mm MLRS types that were modeled on the Russian Smerch rocket artillery by having 10 instead of 12 tubes. However, the new arrangement of two five-tube pods allows for faster reloading.
Khan said the Army is "very pleased" with the system, and additional numbers are being procured. Having hitherto only imported the system, Khan said, the Army would like to shift to indigenous production.
While the Army is "reasonably satisfied with its artillery assets," Cloughley said, the artillery modernization program is ongoing and the Army wants "more, and better, equipment."
This could lead to a future order for about 90 NORINCO SH-1 155mm self-propelled howitzers, two of which were tested in 2008, he said.
Being a more deployable six-wheel-drive platform, the SH-1 could considerably boost the Army's ability to deter Indian aggression in Kashmir, where road improvements have been undertaken, Khan said.
The Army's artillery in Kashmir, especially in more remote locations, has been transported by helicopter and the ammunition by mule train. A wheeled, self-propelled howitzer would therefore be welcome, he said.
Further developments may also be forthcoming for rocket artillery. Cloughley said there is an indigenous MLRS program called Azar, which he said is "similar to the Chinese Type 81" 122mm MLRS. Pakistan's current 122mm Grad-type MLRS is an indigenously produced variant of the North Korean BM-11, and Pakistan Ordnance Factories has developed a high-explosive 122mm rocket called Yarmuk for the system.
Another area Cloughley cites that has not received much attention is the need for a self-propelled mortar system to equip the mechanized infantry formations and provide firepower to complement the self-propelled howitzers. Improving the self-propelled howitzer assets has been the primary goal, however, so little has been done to boost mortar capabilities. Ë
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Great! 'We' guys already have M777. India is not my country.
Panter is L52, while M109 and M777 are both L39. What is your point bringing that into discussion.
Great! 'We' guys already have M777. India is not my country.
Panter is L52, while M109 and M777 are both L39. What is your point bringing that into discussion.
It's you whose butting in with m777s.. Which you still even haven't signed a deal for ... I only showed you the way to "pleaseshutupapur".
