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Sir you said nothing but tagged someone May I ask why ?
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Sir you said nothing but tagged someone May I ask why ?
Sorry in Islam a non Muslim can't lead Muslim Army. Also he would have been a Qadyani it would have seriously bad impact on Army. Pakistan Army motto is Iman Taqwa and Jihad fi Sabilillah. Most soldiers are Muslims and they fight not for Pakistan but to defend a Muslim land. Yes we have non Muslim soldiers but for most soldiers motivation is Islam. So yes it matters no matter How many liberals try to say it should in Islam it does.
Sir you said nothing but tagged someone May I ask why ?
Sir Muslims issue with Qadyanis is totally different than with christian and Jews. It's way too different than other issues.Hi,
There are many a christian officers in pak military and all the muslim soldiers follow their orders without prejudice---because the goal is the same---defense of pakistan.
I very much doubt that would have been an issue---unless sh-it was stirred up.
Father and BROTHER. He himself is a reserve.@DESERT FIGHTER
I would appreciate your opinion on this matter as your father is a serving member of the armed forces.
He is simply warning us all that there might be hostile actions continued from the Pakistani side, and that this might not be affected by his former colleague in the UN forces being a thoroughly professional and very competent soldier; that this thorough professionalism and competence might not affect state policy.
Hostility isn't always done with swords but words (check my artful comeback lol) as well. When you say you don't accept cpec passing through disputed territory of Gilgit Baltistan. Can you give a goodwill statement in favour of CPEC for the Sake of peace.
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With due respect of @Joe Shearer, i would like to tell that the peace talk with Pakistan is equal to perfidious person in India, THERE IS NO POWER IN ANY BODY IN INDIA TO TALK REGARDING PEACE, WITH PAKISTAN.Hostility isn't always done with swords but words (check my artful comeback lol) as well. When you say you don't accept cpec passing through disputed territory of Gilgit Baltistan. Can you give a goodwill statement in favour of CPEC for the Sake of peace.
With due respect of @Joe Shearer, i would like to tell that the peace talk with Pakistan is equal to perfidious person in India, THERE IS NO POWER IN ANY BODY IN INDIA TO TALK REGARDING PEACE, WITH PAKISTAN.
Spoke to my cousin who has known Gen. Bajwa for 20 years, his exact words was that NS took the safest bet based on his dimwit and suggestions from his court jesters as Gen. Bajwa is the most easy going out of the 3 main contenders. He also said that NS will be in for a reality shock very soon as Gen. Bajwa is no push over and is known to be bold, straight forward and very patriotic.
Agree seesil chaudhry one of the war hero in 65Hi,
There are many a christian officers in pak military and all the muslim soldiers follow their orders without prejudice---because the goal is the same---defense of pakistan.
I very much doubt that would have been an issue---unless sh-it was stirred up.
Gen Ishfaq Nadeem and Gen Javed Iqbal were better choices for COAS seat. May Allah Kareem have mercy on this country. Aameen.
I knew Ashfaq Nadeem would never be choosen cause he is straight forward guy and rumored to be in group that wanted Gen Raheel to take action against Nawaz Sharrif in siting dharna of Imran
What about two other generals in Dawn story:
There are two other generals between Gen Zubair and Gen Ishfaq — Heavy Industrial Complex Taxila Chairman Lt Gen Syed Wajid Hussain and Director General Joint Staff Lt Gen Najibullah Khan — but both are not technically qualified to be appointed army chief".
Would they retire also?
This retirement thing over appointment of a junior officer is quiet silly. Apart from extreme cases, appointees were a course junior or few days. What is the problem "As long as you are serving Pakistan. It is an honor and oportunity".
It is the prerogative of the PM to appoint the COAS. He has the right to choose someone with whom he is comfortable. It is absolutely normal in every damn country on this planet except Pakistan. If General Ashfaq Nadeem was blunt and disrespectful, then obviously the PM would not appoint him. It happens all the time even in the First World.
Army officers, senior or junior, have no right to have any say in this matter. There are supposed to do their job just like any government servant.
And Pakistanis must get used to the unpalatable idea of civilian supremacy in a modern democratic environment. One can criticise the decision of the PM but no one can question his authority.
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Though I dislike Imran Khan but if he (or any Mr/Ms. XYZ) were the PM, I would recognize his authority as it is a democratic norm.
I don't care if he is ahmadi, shia, sunni, wahabi, brelvi or deobandi. He has vast experience in his field.
Hope he continues legacy of general raheel, and keep good relation with all institutions.
Pakistan is Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Secondly which part of Quran and Sunnah says it well bro in Islamic Republic. Non Muslims are not even supposed to serve in Army. That is why we take jizya which is a tax in return tell them they don't have to serve in Armed Forces we would protect them and there places of worship. Now as in case of Pakistan as there is no jizya still a non Muslim should not be made head of our Army. Specially when your whole Army motto is based on Iman and Taqwa and Jihad fi Sabilillah.
No, because it isn't needed. It is made for the sake of the record. There is never any question of the Indian Army interfering with the setting up of the CPEC, or of harming anyone connected to it (or any civilian, for that matter). So there will be nothing that will happen to the CPEC, except that India will lose out.
An aside:
Civilians have got hurt in recent cross-border firing, but that is because the guns used are themselves not accurate beyond a certain point. Pakistanis, too, surely do not intend to harm civilians; they have harmed them.
Conclusion:
I can see that I have a slippery customer here, and must watch my p's and q's very carefully.
In which wars did the 4 rightly guided caliphs recruite non-Muslims? Can you name the wars, and any notable non-Muslims? Any reference from the books, that are commonly accepted by all 4 fiqh of Islam, will be highly appreciated.
تو اس کا مطلب ساری ہوائی فائرنگ تھی ابھی تلک؟
I only said, and I am saying again, please don't compare their democracy with our democrazy.. We have a 'Z' instead of 'C' in the spelling. Hope you won't mind.
If a Christian group elected to serve in the state's military forces, it was exempted from the Jizyah. Historical examples of this abound: the Jarajima, a Christian tribe living near Antioch (now in Turkey), by undertaking to support the Muslims and to fight on the battle front, did not have to pay the Jizyah and were entitled to a share of the captured booty. (Al-Baladhuri, p. 159) When the Islamic conquests reached northern Persia in 22 A.H., a similar covenant was established with a tribe living on the boundaries of those territories. They were consequently exempted from Jizyah in view of their military services. (Ibid.)". These examples have then been followed by Islamic Caliphates throughout history.
You have made this democrazy, these leaders were not enforced upon you, they are just a result of it.
Thank you.. I will come back to you if I have any questions. But anyway, thank you again.
I agree with the rest of the comment. However, disagree when you say that the leaders are not enforced on us.
No matter how much we try through vote, we will not be able to make an impact. This is because of the fact that voters in most parts of the country are not "qualified' enough to vote because they don't vote after understanding the manifesto. In fact they can't even read the manifesto, let alone understand it.
Most of the guys who are elected and become "LAWMAKERS" come from this background. So the current democratic system is in fact supporting these guys. No matter what you do, it will not help. I have participated in many "Ihtejaajs" "Jalsas" etc etc when I was in Pakistan.. But I am now firm that this "democrazy" is not leading us to anywhere.
And this is of course my opinion. I have spoken to so many pro democratic people who support current democrazy in Pakistan, my opinion hasn't changed a bit.
Sorry, but I just don't agree with the last part of your comment.