Lockheed Martin Inaugurates F-16 Production Line in Greenville, South Carolina

[Khafee]

oh thanks for the calrification, its for countries they dont want to sell f35 to.

as proven on the 27th feb when it drowned at su-30 MKI a twin engined jet.

PAF has Blk 52's

Blk 60/70's are a Gen apart. Keep watching this thread you will soon learn why.

 

[CrazyZ]

Did you remove the Sniper pods, the A2A, A2S missiles, spares, practice equipment, management systems, navigation equipment, support and integration and U.S. government and contractor engineering and logistical support services, to arrive at this figure?

Bahraini Order: US$70.284m per unit
https://thedefensepost.com/2018/06/23/lockheed-contract-bahrain-16-f-16-viper/

Article doesn't break down the line item costs. Your right the $155 mill probably includes extras.

The F16 is at end of its design life. Time to move on to 5th gen airframe if possible, in my opinion.

 

[Sully3]

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Btw did he took his begging bowl with him to Iran also....

seeing at as Indias new papa America slapped Modi in his face regarding buying dirty oil from iran.

so to answer your question iran has no money to give.

PS they are more poor people in india then any other country in the world. So did you take you begging bowl to the temple today for your charity food that half of india lives on everyday.

PAF has Blk 52's

Blk 60/70's are a Gen apart. Keep watching this thread you will soon learn why.

yeah i know our f16 are the older generation.

correct me if im wrong but you guys in UAE have the leatest versions of the f16's any where in the world called V's.

 

[Khafee]

correct me if im wrong but you guys in UAE have the leatest versions of the f16's any where in the world called V's.

UAE AF flies Blk60 which is slightly less than V, in terms of radar only. Fiber optic mil std 1773 bus & engines are better, other sensors on par.

The SAR feature on the APG83 is better. The APG80 with the new software upgrades will be nearly on par with APG83, bringing the Blk 60 upto V specs, but with a better bus and an engine.

Article doesn't break down the line item costs. Your right the $155 mill probably includes extras.

Thank You

 

[Haroon Baloch]

Instead of procuring additional vipers units. PAF should upgrade all of its f-16 to V & if possible acquire more used F-16 and upgrade them as well. More economical than buying additional new vipers.

 

[Tps43]

Since we have no shortage of Experts on this forum, can someone tell me the difference between Blk52 & Blk70 excluding the radar, engine, EW & CFT probe option.

This will be interesting.

@Tps43 @MastanKhan @Signalian Keep an eye on this thread

First of all it has got Reduced RCS
The Block 70 also has a distinctive paint-job called Uniform HAVEGLASS that serves two purposes.

“One of the things they did on the Block 60s — was they did a coating on the Block 60 that’s got the texture of about 40 grit sandpaper — 60 grit sandpaper. It’s very, very rough. It was designed for RCS (Radar Cross Section) reduction. Since then for the Block 70 what we’ve done — from the exterior, if you look at the normal F-16 — most of the world’s F-16s — although they have country-unique paint jobs and in this case we made up an Indian paint-job, one of the thing the United States Air Force — particularly our Air National Guard, has started to implement is this coating called Uniform HAVEGLASS,” said Balserak.

“And the Uniform HAVEGLASS does two things. What Uniform HAVEGLASS does — it is also a radar cross section reducing coating to go on to the outside of the airplane — that’s number one. But the number two reason — and the reason the Guard really likes this is that it’s significantly less maintenance intensive than the old traditional coatings. And that’s why they started to do it. So if you look at — if you go online and look at some of our Air National Guard airplanes a lot of them are starting to put this paint scheme — this Uniform HAVEGLASS on the airplane and this is what we intend to offer India,” he explained.

 

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This will be interesting

Blk 70 also has a built-in ground collision avoidance system

 

[Khafee]

@Sully3 @ali_raza @MastanKhan @Signalian @Keysersoze
@Pandora @war&peace @zulu @HRK @The Eagle and others

Please note, the RCS diff, between the earlier Blk's and Blk60/70, is one of the things, besides the AESA radar, that puts it nearly a generation ahead.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/lock...le-south-carolina.615405/page-3#post-11402149

Blk 70 also has a built-in ground collision avoidance system

So does the Blk60, and was available for the Blk52 but PAF said no.

 

[INDIAISM]

seeing at as Indias new papa America slapped Modi in his face regarding buying dirty oil from iran.

so to answer your question iran has no money to give.

PS they are more poor people in india then any other country in the world. So did you take you begging bowl to the temple today for your charity food that half of india lives on everyday.


yeah i know our f16 are the older generation.

correct me if im wrong but you guys in UAE have the leatest versions of the f16's any where in the world called V's.

Unlike your country who has a habbit of having Papa who give you pocket money..I mean till cold war era it was America or Arab countries and now it's China , UAE ,Saudi Arabia and not to forget sometimes America too when it need somebody whoom it can use and throw....

India has Mutual benefial Relationship with every country in the world...Like you we don't fight other people war nor we allow them to fight that war in our homeland ...

As far as those sanction are concern they are for everybody doesn't matter wether Japan , India, Turkey or China...

AND as faar as our response to those sanction are concern nobody is going to get it before the result of election as no major Foriegn policy decission can be taken during election...

 

[LeGenD]

The AN/APG-83 radar system of F-16 Block 70/72 can produce a fire solution for up to 20 targets in one go. In comparison, the KLJ-7A radar system expected to be installed in the upcoming JF-17 Thunder Block III can produce a fire solution for up to 4 targets in one go.

F-16 Block 70/72 is a major leap from earlier blocks in capabilities - a new bird beneath F-16 type airframe.

Rightfully claimed to be unparalleled in its class: https://amcham.bg/2018/11/21/f-16-b...ss-in-the-multi-role-fighter-jet-competition/

Based on some recent F16 sales. USA is literally forcing new Nato, eastern European countries to buy the F16 to keep the assembly line going.

The term 'forcing' is a bit much. F-16 Block 70/72 does not have much competition in its class.

FYI: https://www.janes.com/article/86399...d-for-f-16-thanks-to-new-upgrades-and-variant

To give you an idea, Slovakia was really interested in the new Saab Gripen-E (very good jet in its class) but F-16 Block 70/72 convinced it otherwise during the course of evaluation.

Lockheed Martin was almost convinced that demand for F-16 will diminish due to F-35 project taking off but F-16 Block 70/72 experiment paid off big time and it looks like F-16 brand will not die anytime soon.

Even Indians are convinced: https://www.indiastrategic.in/2018/12/14/f-16-block-70-is-about-unmatched-defence-industry-in-india/

but Indian bureaucracy....

 

[Khafee]

Unlike your country who has a habbit of having Papa who give you pocket money..I mean till cold war era it was America or Arab countries and now it's China , UAE ,Saudi Arabia and not to forget sometimes America too when it need somebody whoom it can use and throw....

India has Mutual benefial Relationship with every country in the world...Like you we don't fight other people war nor we allow them to fight that war in our homeland ...

As far as those sanction are concern they are for everybody doesn't matter wether Japan , India, Turkey or China...

AND as faar as our response to those sanction are concern nobody is going to get it before the result of election as no major Foriegn policy decission can be taken during election...

Rich...coming from a person whose Prime Minister is running around the world with his begging bowl...China, UAE, Saudi Arabia and now IMF..... Next should be Bangladesh as they have forex of around 33 Billion $ not to forget Bangladesh is also the second largest economy in South Asia.....

Btw did he took his begging bowl with him to Iran also....

@Irfan Baloch @WAJsal @waz @The Eagle A decent informative thread, being destroyed by this guys off topic rantings.

 

[CrazyZ]

The AN/APG-83 radar system of F-16 Block 70/72 can produce a fire solution for up to 20 targets in one go. In comparison, the KLJ-7A radar system expected to be installed in the upcoming JF-17 Thunder Block III can produce a fire solution for up to 4 targets in one go.

F-16 Block 70/72 is a major leap from earlier blocks in capabilities - a new bird beneath F-16 type airframe.

Rightfully claimed to be unparalleled in its class: https://amcham.bg/2018/11/21/f-16-b...ss-in-the-multi-role-fighter-jet-competition/


The term 'forcing' is a bit much. F-16 Block 70/72 does not have much competition in its class.

FYI: https://www.janes.com/article/86399...d-for-f-16-thanks-to-new-upgrades-and-variant

To give you an idea, Slovakia was really interested in the new Saab Gripen-E (very good jet in its class) but F-16 Block 70/72 convinced it otherwise during the course of evaluation.

Now orders from different corners are emerging.

I need a comparison to a 5th gen project AZM. JF17 is low cost back bone AC, not a flag ship. For that role, B3 is more than adequate.

 

[Khafee]

APG83 Info-graphic & Data sheet

 

[KapitaanAli]

They were shifting it to Soupa pawa!!! What happened?

They stopped pushing it after the loss of one F16 somewhere.

All hail South Carolina.

 

[Haroon Baloch]

Since we have no shortage of Experts on this forum, can someone tell me the difference between Blk52 & Blk70 excluding the radar, engine, EW & CFT probe option.

This will be interesting.

@Tps43 @MastanKhan @Signalian Keep an eye on this thread

The blk 70 features advanced avionics, a proven Active Electronically Scanned Array radar, a modernized cockpit, advanced weapons, conformal fuel tanks, an automatic ground collision avoidance system, an advanced engine and an industry-leading extended structural service life of 12,000 hours. The Viper integrates advanced capabilities to better interoperate with fifth-generation fighters, including the F-35 and the F-22. They even share some technology, with those aircraft like the new radars that will be installed, the APG-83 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA). It also features an airborne mission role-change capability, and can detect and track time-critical hard-to-find targets in all weather conditions. It also reduces operational costs for the users.