Lies of IAF in 1965 Indo-Pak War

[Mighty Lion]

Really, is that why IAF carried out continuous day and night attack on the base for the rest of the war losing 17 aircraft to Pak gunners in addition to 11 lost in aerial engagements with PAF.

Kaiser Tufail clarified in his latest book that only 3-4 IAF aircraft were lost in air combat in east pakistan in the entire war. He explicitly called the claim of 10-11 air combat kills a war time exaggeration.
He also said the same thing in his blog in 2012:

At least three enemy aircraft (and possibly four) were downed by No 14 Squadron pilots

http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-last-stand-air-war-1971.html?m=1

Kaiser Tufail only claims 100% confirmed kills with evidence. And we all know India is an expert at hiding evidence of losses.

If that is the case Pak would have able to provide evidence of atleast one such case of IAF hiding losses in its official histories released since 1980s.
But I have been tracking Pak military history since 1983 and not a single one has managed to do that

 

[TOPGUN]

Kaiser Tufail clarified in his latest book that only 3-4 IAF aircraft were lost in air combat in east pakistan in the entire war. He explicitly called the claim of 10-11 air combat kills a war time exaggeration.
He also said the same thing in his blog in 2012:

http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-last-stand-air-war-1971.html?m=1


If that is the case Pak would have able to provide evidence of atleast one such case of IAF hiding losses in its official histories released since 1980s.
But I have been tracking Pak military history since 1983 and not a single one has managed to do that

silent_poison - you seem to be on a roll on your way to be the new star indian troll on here lolz lmao.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

If that is the case Pak would have able to provide evidence of atleast one such case of IAF hiding losses in its official histories released since 1980s.
But I have been tracking Pak military history since 1983 and not a single one has managed to do that

The only PAF vs IAF engagement since 1980s is FEB-27th incident where 1 Mig-21 was shot down and 1 unconfirmed Su-30 Kill. The evidence IAF has provided regarding F-16 kill has made IAF world's biggest laughing stock.

 

[SIPRA]

Indians are not like other people on the planet because of Frequency/Vibration ....

We must try to see the World Through Indian Eyes... it is our failure that we cann't for now!

That is not possible, unless we also become Gangus; because, as they say:

"Gangu ki ramzain, ya Gangu jaanay, ya Gangu ki maan"

 

[Windjammer]

Kaiser Tufail clarified in his latest book that only 3-4 IAF aircraft were lost in air combat in east pakistan in the entire war. He explicitly called the claim of 10-11 air combat kills a war time exaggeration.
He also said the same thing in his blog in 2012:

http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-last-stand-air-war-1971.html?m=1

So suddenly Kaiser Tufail is your saving grace, he has also written on events of last February specially how IAF SU-30s and Mirages bugged out and left the battle area but you seemed to choke on those.
As for ground losses, while Pathankot and Kalaikunda have been documented, the strikes on other IAF Bases have hardly found any mention....Barrackpore IAF airfield, near Calcutta, for example, where at least three IAF aircraft were shot up and then the strikes on Ambala and Srinagar.

A victim of No.14 Sqn "Tail Choppers" excellent shooting at Barrackpore IAF air field (near Calcutta).The strike targeted some aircraft parked in the pens and some on the tarmac and claimed one C-119 Packet, one Dakota and one Canberra.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Kaiser Tufail clarified in his latest book that only 3-4 IAF aircraft were lost in air combat in east pakistan in the entire war. He explicitly called the claim of 10-11 air combat kills a war time exaggeration.
He also said the same thing in his blog in 2012:

Thats a big achievement by PAF since they were numerically and technically out matched by IAF who had thrown pretty much what ever they had in their possession like Hunters, Su-7 and Mig-21s and still did not manage to destroy lone F-86 squadron.

 

[Mighty Lion]

So suddenly Kaiser Tufail is your saving grace, he has also written on events of last February specially how IAF SU-30s and Mirages bugged out and left the battle area but you seemed to choke on those.

I always said Mirages and Su30s bugging out was a brilliant decision as they were outnumbered 6:1 temporarily.

Also the Barrackpore and baghdogra attacks took place in 10th & 11th sept and Not the first two days

Also no Canberras were there in Baghdogra and Barrackpore.

 

[MZ-PDF]

Lol, I read about 8-Pass Charlie long ago it refreshing for someone to bring it up again.

What’s happening in this picture?

 

[Windjammer]

I always said Mirages and Su30s bugging out was a brilliant decision as they were outnumbered 6:1 temporarily.

Did they chicken out by dodging AMRAAMS or after getting one up their backside.

Also the Barrackpore and baghdogra attacks took place in 10th & 11th sept and Not the first two days

Meaning more losses on top of the 35 in first two days.

Also no Canberras were there in Baghdogra and Barrackpore.

I'm sure you did the count yourself....BTW, do you even remember how many IDs you have had on this forum.

 

[StormBreaker]

Yes, India captured massive territory and it is still under its control.

Also, in 1965 it completely destroyed PAF and gained total air superiority.

All these are facts. We must accept them...but the problem arises for us and the world when... there is Dimmensional Difference...

The Dimmension in which India did all these things is beyond our reach... that is why Indian posters get so frustrated with PDF @Windjammer @StormBreaker @SIPRA @Myth_buster_1 @Ali Tariq @PakSword

It is the same story with the esteemed India Media which always tells the truth...but onces again its is Dimmensional Difference ... that we fail to see the Indian Truth!

We need to accept The Indian Truths... Indians never Lie!!!

If only they paid attention to your vedic science thread, we would have understood the code to unlocking the path to the vedic dimension

 

[Cuirassier]

Did they chicken out by dodging AMRAAMS or after getting one up their backside.

Meaning more losses on top of the 35 in first two days.

I'm sure you did the count yourself....BTW, do you even remember how many IDs you have had on this forum.

Last one hahaha

 

[Jackdaws]

okay so if India occupied more Pakistani territory then why would it run to Tashkent for a treaty and poison its own leader?

Run to Tashkent? Poison own leader?
From Haji Pir Pass to Assal Uttar, it was Pakistan which wanted a way out after it assumed that India won't cross the IB. And almost Immediately Ayub was deposed after the debacle of 1965. This is just historical face. The Shastri poison rumor is a favorite of BJP fan boys who can't gulp the fact that it was a Congress PM who led to the gates of Lahore in 65 and another Congress leader who led them into Dacca in 71.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

They lie alot dude why do u even listen or read their crap in the west they just throw away anything originating from indian sources. That's their credibility even lower than that of iran...

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Run to Tashkent? Poison own leader?
From Haji Pir Pass to Assal Uttar, it was Pakistan which wanted a way out after it assumed that India won't cross the IB. And almost Immediately Ayub was deposed after the debacle of 1965. This is just historical face. The Shastri poison rumor is a favorite of BJP fan boys who can't gulp the fact that it was a Congress PM who led to the gates of Lahore in 65 and another Congress leader who led them into Dacca in 71.

So basically you are saying India occupied Pakistani territory and later helped pakistan by signing Tashkent treaty to give captured territory back?
Also Lahore is only 15 KM away from Indian border, and their plans of reaching lahore was thwarted by repulsing their attacks back to Indian border.
And btw Ayub served over a decade in office... 4 years past 65..

 

[Mighty Lion]

Meaning more losses on top of the 35 in first two days

Wrong.
There were only 19 losses in the first two days.
Barrackpore and Baghdora losses were among the 16 losses in the remaining 15 days which include (3 Halwara, 3 Pathankot, 1 Jammu, 2 Adampur, 2 Baghdogra, 2 Barrackpore, 3 Jamnagar)