Lieberman: Israel not interested in conflict with Turkey

[ovarel]

Just the escalation of events man.The NATO is being installed for the sole purpose of intercepting Iran's ballistic missiles,a nation that has no beef with you guys.Do you the NATO shields will be used on the contingency of Israel missiles targeting Turkey? Let your belief save you I guess

Iran is the second danger in the ME after Israel. Please my friend,dont play the smart-azz guy role. Trust me that many Turks' perception of world politics,political balances and strategic thinkning is no less good than yours. If you have a in-depth analysis to say,then go ahead but dont act a genius by writing two non-sense sentences.

Regards.

 

[cyphercide]

Do you really think we have no beef with those guys? They Iran are playing very very dirty games against Turkey. Last time they also threatend to use PKK against us if we would harm Assad! They supported PKK and killed our troops indirectly for years!

They supported Armenians against Azeri Turks.

the list goes on!! Those people cant be trusted!! We never did to them what they are doing to us behind our backs. Ofcourse it is their goverment! I dont know the people. I guess they nice and friendly there is no problem with them it is their regime who want to destableize the whole region!

Whoops,A lot of typos on my previous post.Check the redacted one.But consider this for a second.An extreme position with Iran will isolate Turkey considering they are the de-facto spokesperson of the Arab world for the time being.Does the costs really outweigh the benefits considering Iran hasn't ever outspokenly gone against Turkey(after the NATO missile shield,they just might do that).Isn't it time that Turkey started plotting a course of it's own?

 

[cyphercide]

Iran is the second danger in the ME after Israel. Please my friend,dont play the smart-azz guy role. Trust me that many Turks' perception of world politics,political balances and strategic thinkning is no less good than yours. If you have a in-depth analysis to say,then go ahead but dont act a genius by writing two non-sense sentences.

Regards.

How come are they widely being accepted as the voice of the Middle East then? It was the Saudis before 9/11.They became tame immediately after that.Iran filled the vacuum and Turkey doesn't even figure coming close to representing Arab sentiments.That's just where the facts stand.

 

[ovarel]

How come are they widely being accepted as the voice of the Middle East then? It was the Saudis before 9/11.They became tame immediately after that.Iran filled the vacuum and Turkey doesn't even figure coming close to representing Arab sentiments.That's just where the facts stand.

Thats the issue, Israel and Iran are both legitimizing their influence over Arabs. Israil is using Iran as an excuse to have an influence over Arab countries,and Iran is using Israel to do the same. They both dont wish a real death to one another because they know that they need each other.

Just because we dont like Israeli hegemony doesnt mean that we do want a Iranian one. And Iran has always played dirty games,they know these things well.

 

[cyphercide]

Thats the issue, Israel and Iran are both legitimizing their influence over Arabs. Israil is using Iran as an excuse to have an influence over Arab countries,and Iran is using Israel to do the same. They both dont wish a real death to one another because they know that they need each other.

Just because we dont like Israeli hegemony doesnt mean that we do want a Iranian one. And Iran has always played dirty games,they know these things well.

Great answer.Thanks for letting me in on that.Just one more,where does Turkey move forward from here?How does it consolidate it's position without disturbing the equilibrium?

 

[RedBeard]

Thats the issue, Israel and Iran are both legitimizing their influence over Arabs. Israil is using Iran as an excuse to have an influence over Arab countries,and Iran is using Israel to do the same. They both dont wish a real death to one another because they know that they need each other.

they are both theocratic countries and need eachoter!!. If one doesnt exist the other would cease to exist!

 

[ovarel]

Great answer.Thanks for letting me in on that.Just one more,where does Turkey move forward from here?How does it consolidate it's position without disturbing the equilibrium?

Seperating the issues would be the key point,i think. Probably we are going to keep on supporting Iran's right to have a civil nuclear technology because we dont want a monopoly on it. On the other hand,we are not going to support Iran's destabilizing efforts. Its just an example but can be approached to other possible occasions.

 

[cyphercide]

Seperating the issues would be the key point,i think. Probably we are going to keep on supporting Iran's right to have a civil nuclear technology because we dont want a monopoly on it. On the other hand,we are not going to support Iran's destabilizing efforts. Its just an example but can be approached to other possible occasions.

Let's hope and pray it's as nonchalant as you describe,although no sign points towards the same.

 

[500]

Hahahahah Look at this fool. He was shouting like a monkey that Turkey better show some respect or else they would weaponize kurds in south-east turkey and now he backing of like the coward he is.

So far only one who is backing if Retardogan:

First he said he cancels all trade with Israel. Then he backed.
Then he said he will visit Gaza. Then he backed.
Then he said he will escort every convoy to Gaza with military ships. Then he backed.

 

[RedBeard]

Hey show some respect hah

If we cancel all trade you will starve!

He will visit Gaza via Egypt rafah border

He never said every convoy its about Turkish ships and Turkish citizens he said this since beginning.. it all was media's and ''experts'' assumptions! fantasies! until Erdogan came and give more details! So stfo and next time dont insult our leader! And unlike you atleast we dont have a crazy terorist supporting thug as FM.

 

[500]

If we cancel all trade you will starve!

If you cancel all trade you will be kicked from WTO and u will starve Turkey already has 54 bln trade deficit in first half of 2011 - thats 108 bln yearly.

And unlike you atleast we dont have a crazy terorist supporting thug as FM.

Our FM is not visiting any terrorists unlike yours.

 

[RedBeard]

If you cancel all trade you will be kicked from WTO and u will starve Turkey already has 54 bln trade deficit in first half of 2011 - thats 108 bln yearly.

Our FM is not visiting any terrorists unlike yours.

Funny guy.. We can cancell all trade with you, even forbid your civilian airliners to use our airspace.. those will be the next steps and keep dreaming about WTO kicking Turkey out for the sake of Israel!You think that your the most important country in the world! you are not the centre of the world! Really you are not that important!! you are just Israel a funny little place where Jews live!!

Your FM openly declared to attack and kill Turks via terorrist PKK support he admitted something the Turkish people already knew!!.Still you are talking about visiting hamas!! Iskenderun attack was joint PKK-Israel coordinated! Turkey always pressured Hamas to stop its teror! While you used PKK as a way to hurt us we always urged Hamas to stop, and change their ways!! Thats the difference between our countries! So dont weep about visiting hamas there is a difference we never had intentions to harm Israel when doing this!!

 

[500]

Funny guy.. We can cancell all trade with you, even forbid your civilian airliners to use our airspace.. those will be the next steps and keep dreaming about WTO kicking Turkey out for the sake of Israel!You think that your the most important country in the world! you are not the centre of the world! Really you are not that important!! you are just Israel a funny little place where Jews live!!

WTO clearly states that one its member cant boycot another. Thats why Feildogan quickly retracted his statement about cutting trade with Israel.

Your FM openly declared to attack and kill Turks via terorrist PKK support he admitted something the Turkish people already knew!!

He did not say anothing like this. There was only some report that he considers strengthening ties with some Kurds. PKK are not only Kurds in the world, if u dont know. Lieberman is dumb but Erdogan makes him look genius.

Still you are talking about visiting hamas!!

yes Feildogan is terror supporter. He supported also genocide maker Bashir.

Iskenderun attack was joint PKK-Israel coordinated!

I suggest you to look at map. Iskenderun is surrounded by Syria.

While you used PKK as a way to hurt us

Israel never had any contacts with PKK. PKK always was a Syrian tool to hurt Turkey.

 

[RedBeard]

WTO clearly states that one its member cant boycot another. Thats why Feildogan quickly retracted his statement about cutting trade with Israel.

He did not say anothing like this. There was only some report that he considers strengthening ties with some Kurds. PKK are not only Kurds in the world, if u dont know. Lieberman is dumb but Erdogan makes him look genius.

We will see! Just have some patience, if Israel doesnt apoligize, lift the blockade and accept other demands then these step will be taken!

Try to hide all you want! he clearly said PKK! I readed on Haaretz and Jpost!

Your Netanyahu supports PKK and your thug FM revealed this secret!

Yes so? It is also near to Israel!! These attacks came on the same time when your pirates were killing our citizens on these ships!

Why bring Syria into this i know that every Turk knows that sh..! we threatenend them with war because of this support! But that doesnt change the fact that Israel is somehow also involved!!

 

[maverick1977]

So are you suggesting that we should just backoff? Ignore palestinians getting massacred like in 2006 war? What kind of mentality is that.. One time you go on whining about muslim countries being silent. And finally if one stands up and do something you blame them again, and claim that Israel will win anyway!

lol ! you got it all wrong. I am all in support of turks and their dealing with isreal. its about time someone stood up for palestinians amongst muslim countries. Turks took the lead and i have long believed their right to even bring unity amongst muslims. i believe Turks are one of the key countries tp unite muslims under one banner.

ALl i said, that isreal didnt apologie because they have nothing too loose in relations with turkey. they want to create chaos in the region for their own sustainence. for instance if middle easterns countries have no internal problems then they can concentrate on palestine and isreal decided that since turks are helping palentine, lets break the relationship with them so, they (isreal) can start PKK project to keep turks busy there.