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Pakistan’s affair with extremist ****** groups has risen in passion instead of abating amidst international pressures and the mounting terror attacks within the country by the terrorists. The Defence Day of Pakistan was celebrated on September 6 with the usual traditional fervour, eulogizing those who did and did not do much to win one of the series of confrontations that Pakistan provoked in its judgment to bring India down to its knees on the Kashmir issue. Under the layers and still carefully tucked away, the truth might never surface to allow the people to know that the passion of the 1965 war Pakistan pines for every year whenever any collective misery falls on it, has been raised on a façade about an enemy next door who attacked us in cowardly fashion and without warning or a formal declaration of war and not as retaliation for our infiltrating commandos into Indian-held Kashmir across the cease fire line. Indeed the field officers and the foot soldiers fought bravely in defence of the motherland under attack but the political and military leadership commanding the war came out as incompetent from the planning to the execution stage. The political leadership had ccnvinced itself that India would not dare attack across the international border despite Indian Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Shastri’s explicit warning and the military command was lulled into not preparing for such an eventuality. By the end of the 17-day war, we were running out of fuel and other supplies, including ammunition. Fortunately, the Soviets came to our rescue; had it not been so, September 6 might have added another dark chapter to our chequered history of wars against India. Yet we refuse to learn any lessons from this and other experiences. This defence day saw a plethora of religious parties on the streets showering kudos on the 1965 war martyrs, and putting feathers in the army’s cap for defending the country against the aggressors India. This was the gist of Hafiz Saeed’s commentary he made in Islamabad on Defence Day to a crowd of 10,000. Hafiz Saeed went all the way to the capital city Islamabad to celebrate the day, raising questions once again about the freedom granted to him in the public space. One, who paid for this elaborate arrangement, accommodating, a crowd of 10,000 people? The show was provided security and those attending it given a free hand to spray verbal hatred against the ‘perenniel’ enemy. Who gave permission for all this and was Hafiz Saeed’s speech vetted before being allowed to be delivered?

Hafiz Saeed is not an ordinary ******. He is accused of being the mastermind behind the Mumbai attacks in 2008. He carries a head money of $ 10 million imposed by the US. Previously he led Lashkar-e-Taiba, which was banned in 2002 by Musharaf. His credentials are simmering with India hatred, yet his speech against India was allowed on Defence Day. What does it show? On the one hand Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif is talking of peace and normalisation with India, and on the other anti-India sentiments are fanned at the behest of the establishment. It is unfortunate that Pakistan is still stuck with its duplicitous approach and insists on smearing the truth and distorting history, forgetting that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

Islamist with $10 million U.S. bounty on his head leads mass rally in Pakistan

By Jessica Chasmar

An Islamic leader with a $10 million U.S. bounty on his head led a mass rally in Islamabad on Friday, denouncing India as a terrorist state as thousands chanted for a jihad against the rival nuclear country, Reuters reported.

India has accused Hafiz Saeed, founder of the Pakistani terrorist organization Lashkar-e-Taiba, of masterminding the 2008 attack on Mumbai in which gunmen killed 166 people, the report said. The United States has offered $10 million for information leading to his arrest, Reuters said.

“The United States and India are very angry with us. This means God is happy with us,” Mr. Saeed told the crowd of nearly 10,000 supporters as they chanted, “Jihad.” Reuters notes that Mr. Saeed did not use the word “jihad” himself.

“We are ready for every sacrifice for the liberation of Kashmir,” Mr. Saeed added.

Two men performed a rallying song threatening to “turn the whole of India into Mumbai,” Reuters reported. Others chanted, “Whoever is a friend of India is a traitor.”

“They should know there are a lot of people here who are waiting for the conquest of India,” Hamid Gul, a former chief of the ISI intelligence service for the Pakistani government, told the crowd. “It will be our privilege to take part in this war.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/8/islamist-10m-us-bounty-his-head-leads-mass-rally-p/
 
Given that the GDP of Mumbai is larger than the entire economy of the Pakistani nation, it is a welcome proposition from mr. Halffizz Saaed here...
Let all of India be like Mumbai...why the hell not!
 
@Aeronaut, is this the same guy whom you claimed to be a charity worker? :rolleyes:



“The United States and India are very angry with us. This means God is happy with us,” Mr. Saeed told the crowd of nearly 10,000 supporters as they chanted, “Jihad.” Reuters notes that Mr. Saeed did not use the word “jihad” himself.

“We are ready for every sacrifice for the liberation of Kashmir,” Mr. Saeed added.

Two men performed a rallying song threatening to “turn the whole of India into Mumbai,” Reuters reported. Others chanted, “Whoever is a friend of India is a traitor.”

“They should know there are a lot of people here who are waiting for the conquest of India,” Hamid Gul, a former chief of the ISI intelligence service for the Pakistani government, told the crowd. “It will be our privilege to take part in this war.”


And people here say, we are the one obsessed with Pakistan!! :disagree:
 
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Its people like HS who have brought pakistan to the state in now is . when will the people of Pakistan learn that Jihad has not served them one bit?
 
Havent you heard the JuD inspirational song aka tarana which they play at every rally. "baniye ka khoon bahayenge.............." :lol:. They survive on fear and hate mongering.
 
Anything posted by the Indians against Pakistan & Dr. Hafiz is going to be & is complete BS.

Its people like HS who have brought pakistan to the state in now is . when will the people of Pakistan learn that Jihad has not served them one bit?

You can keep your crap advice to yourself.
 
People like Hafeez are majort irritants fr talks to proceed with pak
 
@Aeronaut, is this the same guy whom you claimed to be a charity worker? :rolleyes:



And people here say, we are the one obsessed with Pakistan!! :disagree:


He has nothing to fear as Indian govt has zero proofs to bring forward. We'll talk when you bring proofs for his indictment as he himself has offered to be prosecuted by a joint Pakistani-Indian jury.

Sounds like a fair deal to me, why is India dumb quiet?
 
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He has nothing to fear as Indian govt has zero proofs to bring forward. We'll talk when you bring proofs for his indictment as he himself has offered to be prosecuted by a joint Pakistani-Indian jury.

Sounds like a fair deal to me, why is India dumb quiet?

Read my previous post as a response to your question.
 
He has nothing to fear as Indian govt has zero proofs to bring forward. We'll talk when you bring proofs for his indictment as he himself has offered to be prosecuted by a joint Pakistani-Indian jury.

Sounds like a fair deal to me, why is India dumb quiet?

Off cource he have nothing to fear.. A leader of a banned organisation calling for Jihad against another nation on the defense day!! Let me ask what will be the world's POV on that? Your court does not even tried to prosecute him with the evidence we have given.. Then why he have to fear any one?? About joint Pakistani-Indian jury, that argument was already debunked by @Bang Galore in an earlier thread.. He knows Pakistan government wont initiate such a jury because it has more to loose..
 
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Off cource he have nothing to fear.. A leader of a banned organisation calling for Jihad against another nation on the defense day!! Let me ask what will be the world's POV on that? Your court does not even tried to prosecute him with the evidence we have given.. Then why he have to fear any one?? About joint Pakistani-Indian jury, that argument was already debunked by @Bang Galore in an earlier thread.. He knows Pakistan government wont initiate such a jury because it has more to loose..


This is called freedom of speech. We learned it from India.
 
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This is called freedom of speech. We learned it from India.

Great and the terrorists acts he have done against us must be freedom of action!! Does the inaction from your court against him also come under freedom of speech? It was a pathetic excuse for promoting a terrorist leader.. He is not an ordinary citizen who talk nonsense.. You know better than that..
 
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