Leaked audio of Shaukat Tareen

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

Please allow me to rephrase that:

Having an independent central bank is a good thing for Pakistan long term, but it is not good thing for the elites who can get loans approved and written off as they wish, and the government can borrow and fiddle with interest rates as they want.

Guess what will happen?

Commercial banks wrote off Rs87 billion between 1971 and 2009, according to the details submitted in the Supreme Court in 2018. While in 2019 Imran Khan government wrote off Rs.300+ billion to few influential in one go.

 

[Jango]

Independence does not mean without any accountability.

And where is it written anywhere that there will be no accountability?

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

And where is it written anywhere that there will be no accountability?

Show me the one where top 15 officials of SBP are accountable for their actions, let it be the policy rate, exchange rate etc.

 

[Jango]

Show me the one where top 15 officials of SBP are accountable for their actions, let it be the policy rate, exchange rate etc.

Aik to is mulk mian the obsession to keep everyone under your thumb is keeping us from growing.

Jis ka ehtesab karna hai us ka karo to ghaddari ya contempt ho jati hai, baki sab ko raghar kay rakho.

How was Ishaq Dar held accountable for his exchange rate policy? Please tell me? He's in the UK since the past many years enjoying the sights...jab keh idhr ham bhugat rahay hain us kay faislay.

And sixth, the amendments enhance the SBP’s accountability by strengthening oversight functions and increasing reporting requirements. In particular, the amendments strengthen provisions related to accountability of the State Bank to the Parliament, constitution of an Audit Committee18, designation of a Chief Internal Auditor19 and appointment of External Auditors20. In addition, it is proposed that the oversight role of the Board of Directors of State Bank be strengthened and its scope broadened, including by giving them explicit oversight over the affairs and functions of the Bank; the power to supervise the management, Bank’s administration, operations; and right of access to all activities of the Bank.

State Bank of Pakistan

And again, itna hi bura hai to why isn't N league reversing it? IMF say paisay chahiay na? To phir jab PTI kar rahi thi tab kyun rona dala hua tha?

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

Aik to is mulk mian the obsession to keep everyone under your thumb is keeping us from growing.

Jis ka ehtesab karna hai us ka karo to ghaddari ya contempt ho jati hai, baki sab ko raghar kay rakho.

How was Ishaq Dar held accountable for his exchange rate policy? Please tell me? He's in the UK since the past many years enjoying the sights...jab keh idhr ham bhugat rahay hain us kay faislay.



And again, itna hi bura hai to why isn't N league reversing it? IMF say paisay chahiay na? To phir jab PTI kar rahi thi tab kyun rona dala hua tha?

Politician are accountable to people in the form of vote.

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

The bigger concern is not about the amount of aid, but how much of that aid (local and foreign) will be utilized properly and make it to the people who need it the most.

The PDM alliance (PMLN+PPP) have a horrible track record when it comes to efficient governance and minimizing corruption, especially in Sindh.

There's a reason why Imran Khan can raise billions in hours but you have to check your surroundings to make sure your furniture hasn't vanished after watching the PDM leadership on Television.

Shehbaz Sharif successfully implemented and completed hundreds of projects in Punjab funded by international donors, he has good reputation among them.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Shehbaz Sharif successfully implemented and completed hundreds of projects in Punjab funded by international donors, he has good reputation among them.

You mean limited vanity projects primarily in Lahore - he’s a Mayor, and not even a good one, as can be seen with his incompetence as PM.

Contrast Shahbaz’s limited vanity projects with Imran Khans massive welfare programs such as rolling out universal healthcare in KP & Punjab and the expansion of the Ehsas programs and langars and shelters for the homeless and poor laborers.

There is no comparison to be made between the two.

 

[Jango]

Politician are accountable to people in the form of vote.

And?

Which elections did Ishaq Dar contest?

So a SBP governor should be elected by the people?

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

And?

Which elections did Ishaq Dar contest?

So a SBP governor should be elected by the people?

NO we should devise other means to keep check on him.

 

[Jango]

NO we should devise other means to keep check on him.

And what might that be?

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

And what might that be?

Whatever that is, but surly it should not be without accountability.

 

[Jango]

Whatever that is, but surly it should not be without accountability.

You don't even know yourself what you want or what you are talking about, but bas accountability chahiay.

They are answerable to a parliamentary committee...that's how things work in functioning democracies.

Har kisi ko ulta latkanay ki itni tayyari nhn karni chahiay hamesha.

Let professional make judgement calls. Har cheez badniyati nhn hoti. That's why bureaucracy stops working too...NAB pakar leti hai for 'causing a potential loss of income to national exchequer'. It's a friggin judgement call, it can either go right or go wrong. If the call is consistently wrong, then change the person making it and bring in a proper professional.

 

[Maea]

So according to this thread if PDM takes the IMF loan it will go straight to the swiss accouts, but when PTI took the same loans and waited till the last moment and got them on worst possible conditions, it was halal money. No wonder the nation is going down the drain. Instead of calling what is wrong, wrong, you just make an excuse, because you dont want to admit that your leaders are at fault.

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

You don't even know yourself what you want or what you are talking about, but bas accountability chahiay.

They are answerable to a parliamentary committee...that's how things work in functioning democracies.

Har kisi ko ulta latkanay ki itni tayyari nhn karni chahiay hamesha.

Let professional make judgement calls. Har cheez badniyati nhn hoti. That's why bureaucracy stops working too...NAB pakar leti hai for 'causing a potential loss of income to national exchequer'. It's a friggin judgement call, it can either go right or go wrong. If the call is consistently wrong, then change the person making it and bring in a proper professional.

Can PC remove Governor SBP??

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

So according to this thread if PDM takes the IMF loan it will go straight to the swiss accouts, but when PTI took the same loans and waited till the last moment and got them on worst possible conditions, it was halal money. No wonder the nation is going down the drain. Instead of calling what is wrong, wrong, you just make an excuse, because you dont want to admit that your leaders are at fault.

This misconception was (and still is) so strong that PM Imran Khan announced with fanfare in a midnight rambling speech to the nation that PTI government is going to set-up a commission for loans to be taken in the last ten years which will determine where all this debt gone.

And only found out that:

Debt inquiry commission finds all loan money going to Account No 1​

The commission has not yet found any case of loan-money going to the pocket of any key politician or bureaucrat​

Debt inquiry commission finds all loan money going to Account No 1

ISLAMABAD: Commission of Inquiry constituted by Prime Minister Imran Khan four months back to investigate the use of loans taken from 2008-2018 has not yet found any case of loan-money going to the...

www.thenews.com.pk

Bur our Insafi friends are not willing to come out of this misconception.