Lahore , Amritsar and kashmir are safest place in case of Indo-pak nuke war??

[I.R.A]

The Afghan frontier should be reached within 2 weeks. The battle for Lahore will go on longer.

This reminds of the talk of that trade air corridor between Kabul and india .......... is it operational already?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

This reminds of the talk of that trade air corridor between Kabul and india .......... is it operational already?

That is possible only after air supremacy is gained.

Even then that should only be a temporary phase. India should NOT have a boundary with the Afghans in the long run. Too much trouble.

 

[Basel]

Targeting cities is such a 20th century concept.
The Afghan frontier should be reached within 2 weeks. The battle for Lahore will go on longer.


No wishful thinking sir.
But for the PRChinese direct interventions, Pakistan will be overrun quickly.

The days of India dream of overrunning Pakistan are gone, there is a reason Pakistan have lowered the nuclear threshold and it as real as it gets.

 

[I.R.A]

That is possible only after air supremacy is gained.

Even then that should only be a temporary phase. India should NOT have a boundary with the Afghans in the long run. Too much trouble.

After air supremacy is gained ............ they must be busy working on it then. Or for a cheaper solution Doval can be asked for an advice ..........

 

[SarthakGanguly]

After air supremacy is gained ............ they must be busy working on it then. Or for a cheaper solution Doval can be asked for an advice ..........

All of this is hypothetical. No war between India and Pakistan will happen without PRC being dragged in. But if PRC does not intervene, PAF will be rendered ineffective quickly. All of its bases come within Indian fighter bomber reach (forget bombers and cruise/other missiles).

Entry of PRC will however reverse and negate all Indian advantages.

 

[I.R.A]

All of this is hypothetical. No war between India and Pakistan will happen without PRC being dragged in. But if PRC does not intervene, PAF will be rendered ineffective quickly. All of its bases come within Indian fighter bomber reach (forget bombers and cruise/other missiles).

Entry of PRC will however reverse and negate all Indian advantages.

Bai hello for 70 years we haven't been banking on PRC or anyone else's direct involvement to defend us ............... if india could it would have done it already .......... I don't have any doubts about that.

 

[Mrc]

@mods please rename this thread to Indian mental masturbation here....

 

[padamchen]

Bai hello for 70 years we haven't been banking on PRC or anyone else's direct involvement to defend us ............... if india could it would have done it already .......... I don't have any doubts about that.

Do you think India wants to take in 200+ hostile Muslims? Seriously?

We OWNED East Pakistan after the war. Zero military resistance. Indian Army on the ground there. Largest surrender of enemy forces post WWII.

But Bangladesh happened. Why?

I'm not trolling. What per you would India want to do with Pakistan if we could (hypothetically)?

Cheers, Doc

 

[I.R.A]

Do you think India wants to take in 200+ hostile Muslims? Seriously?

You really think the 200 million that live india itself are living a dream life, you are trying to tell me sanghis are not a reality or its not all about reclaiming the land the so called Akhand Bharat? If I go by your logic why india is so keen to keep few hundred thousands in Kashmir then?

But after all it's not about what india wants ............. it's about if india can ............ for the time being it cannot and it would be foolish of india to start a Ghazwa e Hind ......... with a fanatic in charge and ever increasing number of his crazy followers it is a possibility by the way.

We OWNED East Pakistan after the war. Zero military resistance. Indian Army on the ground there. Largest surrender of enemy forces post WWII.

But Bangladesh happened. Why?

Why not being honest, why so selective in making it look so simple and claim the full credit for it.

You know and I know it wasn't a bravery contest ......... it was a backstabbing feat pulled of very well. Even then the master planner was USSR ....... indian Hindu to date lacks those balls.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Bai hello for 70 years we haven't been banking on PRC or anyone else's direct involvement to defend us ............... if india could it would have done it already .......... I don't have any doubts about that.

No. India has nothing to gain from the non existence of Pakistan. In fact if (God forbid), something happens, India will make sure Pakistan EXISTS.

 

[padamchen]

You really think the 200 million that live india itself are living a dream life, you are trying to tell me sanghis are not a reality or its not all about reclaiming the land the so called Akhand Bharat? If I go by your logic why india is so keen to keep few hundred thousands in Kashmir then?

I asked you about India (hypothetically) taking Pakistan, and with it its populace. Indian Muslims are Indians. Like all Indians are. Asking them to leave India is a sanghi knee jerk. Don't take it seriously. No one else does.

Why do we hundred thousands who in Kashmir? Army or Kashmiris? One live there, the other are posted there to do a job.

But after all it's not about what india wants ............. it's about if india can ............ for the time being it cannot and it would be foolish of india to start a Ghazwa e Hind ......... with a fanatic in charge and ever increasing number of his crazy followers it is a possibility by the way.

Of course it is a possibility. Its been a possibility during Congress rule as well. The Army trains to bissect Pakistan. To occupy her cities. To obliterate her defensive and offensive capabilities. To take control of your nukes. It is what armies do. I'm sure yours trains similarly.

Why not being honest, why so selective in making it look so simple and claim the full credit for it.

You know and I know it wasn't a bravery contest ......... it was a backstabbing feat pulled out very well. Even then the master planner was USSR ....... indian Hindu to date lacks those balls.

You know and I know it was not just Hindus you were up against. It was Indians. Parsis. Sikhs. Jews. Muslims. And also Hindus.

USSR did nothing exceptional that USA did not try on your behalf. They evened each other out. And left us to do what we needed to do.

That was a telling blow. I doubt there has been an equivalent military victory after the last world war.

But maybe we are getting deflected.

The question still remains.

We were on East Pakistan soil as a victorious army. Zero military resistance left. Mass surrenders.

Yet we allowed Bangladesh to happen.

Why?

The answer to that will also answer why we will not be taking over any of your territory or populace. Could or would are to different things.

Cheers, Doc

 

[SarthakGanguly]

sanghis are not a reality or its not all about reclaiming the land the so called Akhand Bharat

Only the stupid among Hindutvavadis will claim to reclaim the land with the people. Pakistan needs to exist. For India. If not for any other reason.

 

[I.R.A]

I asked you about India (hypothetically) taking Pakistan, and with it its populace. Indian Muslims are Indians. Like all Indians are. Asking them to leave India is a sanghi knee jerk. Don't take it seriously. No one else does.

Why do we hundred thousands who in Kashmir? Army or Kashmiris? One live there, the other are posted there to do a job.

You and your sanghis have only seen sheeple ........ who bend and play Hindu when outnumbered, us Pakistanis are a different breed ......... the day your sanghis are put against us they will be thoroughly shown their place and their standing when it comes to being who is the boss.

india most probably has this in mind ......... hypothetically or actually both ways indian populace would be shown its place.

Of course it is a possibility. Its been a possibility during Congress rule as well. The Army trains to bissect Pakistan. To occupy her cities. To obliterate her defensive and offensive capabilities. To take control of your nukes. It is what armies do. I'm sure yours trains similarly.

Okay then the reality is we gave you a full middle finger in Kargil ...... how much time and resources you spent there to get it back (that too not fully) ........ you were up against how many? few thousands? ..... I am just trying to remind indians ......... before having these wet dreams of bisecting us in weeks ...... just remember who they are up against.

You know and I know it was not just Hindus you were up against. It was Indians. Parsis. Sikhs. Jews. Muslims. And also Hindus.

USSR did nothing exceptional that USA did not try on your behalf. They evened each other out. And left us to do what we needed to do.

That was a telling blow. I doubt there has been an equivalent military victory after the last world war.

All my childhood I have despised Niazi ....... but now when I put myself in his situation I find him the most nobel courageous person .............. doc outnumbering a few thousands soldiers, cut from mainland, in midst of their own hostile citizens is no bravery ........ Niazi could have decided to have a blood bath both of your men and Bangladeshis but he preferred to be remembered a coward in history.

You can call it victory .......... but every time when the opportunity rose and there was no risk of collateral damage our few thousands proved their metal. And believe me the new breed of our soldiers would eat your men alive in man to man combat.

The question still remains.

We were on East Pakistan soil as a victorious army. Zero military resistance left. Mass surrenders.

Yet we allowed Bangladesh to happen.

Why?

The answer to that will also answer why we will not be taking over any of your territory or populace. Could or would are to different things.

Cheers, Doc

You had this fear of being surrounded on two sides ......... similar to like right now you are afraid of two front war.

Only the stupid among Hindutvavadis will claim to reclaim the land with the people. Pakistan needs to exist. For India. If not for any other reason.

I thought Afghans were your friends ............ didn't know they scare the shit out of you.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

You and your sanghis have only seen sheeple ........ who bend and play Hindu when outnumbered, us Pakistanis are a different breed ......... the day your sanghis are put against us they will be thoroughly shown their place and their standing when it comes to being who is the boss.

Today's Dharmics are not those of 712 or 1192 or 1947 AD.

I thought Afghans were your friends ............ didn't know they scare the shit out of you.

The Afghan Govt. is. Their civilization (or lack of it) can a headache.

 

[I.R.A]

Today's Dharmics are not those of 712 or 1192 or 1947 AD.

Has it been tested and proven?

The Afghan Govt. is. Their civilization (or lack of it) can a headache.

To set the record straight that would be Kabul Government ...... Afghan government is a different non existing thing for the time being.