KSA mobilizing support for Palestine stand at UN

[MilSpec]

OIC = Organization of Impotent Countries. (58 of them)

Arabs should leave their herms and help Gaza militarily.

Will be quite suicidal if they do

Israelis are lucky, its Egyptians bordering Gaza and looking the other way while a genocide unfolds right in front of their eyes. If it was Pakistanis, things would have been different.

So you think pakistan would have intervened if there was a genocide in the neighboring state? Would it be the right thing to do?

Pakistan must stand squarely behind our Palestinian Brothers and Sisters.

Why isn't it?

 

[Contrarian]

Egypt can move its forces in Gaza, occupy it, disarm Hamas and carry on with the peace process. Egypt will make sure Hamas doesn't fire rockets and Israelis won't strike Gaza as it would risk a war with Egypt. Israel has nukes but if it uses them, it won't exist either.

Wrong premise. There is no one else who would nuke them for nuking another nation. Yes, I particularly imply Pakistan. Talk as much as you want, but your nukes will not be used against Israel even if Israel nukes another nation bar KSA.

Fact of the matter is that all Arab nations are lead by cowards. When India does hichy bichy in Kashmir, we open fire along the line of control so they stay in their limits. Israel knows that no one is going to stand up to it while the American empire is fully backing it, it can go and bomb at will.

Again, wrong facts.
India has successfully killed and thrown away many thousands of jihadis in Kashmir. Pakistan could do nothing to stop that.

Pakistan has been as helpless as the Arabs are in the Kashmir situation.
- Just like the Arabs, Pakistan tried waging direct war to get Kashmir. Just like the Arabs, Pakistan got beaten back.
- Just like the Arabs, Pakistan tried supporting insurgency. Just like the Arabs, that insurgency has been literally beaten by India.

India is firmly in Kashmir, just like Israel...and just like the Arabs, Pakistan is able to change nothing.

So my friend, stop trying to lecture on incompetence of Arabs, when you yourself have failed at accomplishing your goals.

This is what I admire about Pakistanis. They are truly not afraid of the enemy, despite how numerous, or how powerful. This reminds me of the spirit of the great Mughal Emperors: Babur and Akbar the Great.

Meh. You give them credit when you don't know all the facts.
Babur was a conqueror and a great one at that.
Akbar the Great, was an Administrator, a great one at that.

Pakistan on the other hand, remains the only Nation in South Asia that has since Independence - repeatedly - lost territory it claimed.
As a country, Pakistan probably ranks second last in Governance/Administration in South Asia.

As you can see, both attributes are near opposite.
Please reserve the accolades till when they actually earn it.

 

[MilSpec]

Well anyways. You're irrelevant, small nation that has less population than one Pakistani mega city, and that has 10 times less land area than just one Pakistani state (and that's not even the largest one!) ...

Pretty irrelevant and non-important tiny meaningless state...If you leave your barbarianism and stop colonizing Palestinians, believe me, nobody would give a shit.Since nobody can even spot Israel on the map. That's how pathetically irrelevant your tiny dream-land is

humility fail.

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

for every one talking about Egypt
we have done our part and right now we are at war of our own to get our economy back and better than before we cant live on aid we fought 4 wars we lost sainai and got it back we have done what we could no more will any Egyptian soldier die for others while they are talking empty words just like people from all across the world fight in syria and iraq why dont they fight in gaza

 

[TeesraIndiotHunter]

for every one talking about Egypt
we have done our part and right now we are at war of our own to get our economy back and better than before we cant live on aid we fought 4 wars we lost sainai and got it back we have done what we could no more will any Egyptian soldier die for others while they are talking empty words just like people from all across the world fight in syria and iraq why dont they fight in gaza

People talk about Egypt, still? LOL.

Egypt has become another subsaharan type irrelevant pathetic state under military dictatorship. Journalists are locked, mass executions, dummy courts, and largest political party of Egypt declared "terrorist organization" because they took part in democratic process and WON elections, and stood against military junta.

Who even shit on Egypt anymore? Have you seen your state? Broken-***, military dictatoship desert waste-land where General gets 93% "votes" while opposition parties aren't even allowed to come onto ballot

Muslim Brotherhood was Egypt's chance to get transformed major power like Turkey did under AKP (that is, If Muslim Brotherhood had adapted smart policies)...But now, Egypt is a bygone state. Nobody even talks about it.

 

[SouthDesi]

No. It would still not have been different.

Well said. What did they do when drones were killing their own citizens for last few years on their own soil?

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

People talk about Egypt, still? LOL.

Egypt has become another subsaharan type irrelevant pathetic state under military dictatorship. Journalists are locked, mass executions, dummy courts, and largest political party of Egypt declared "terrorist organization" because they took part in democratic process and WON elections, and stood against military junta.

Who even shit on Egypt anymore? Have you seen your state? Broken-***, military dictatoship desert waste-land where General gets 93% "votes" while opposition parties aren't even allowed to come onto ballot

Muslim Brotherhood was Egypt's chance to get transformed major power like Turkey did under AKP (that is, If Muslim Brotherhood had adapted smart policies)...But now, Egypt is a bygone state. Nobody even talks about it.

i am sure people like you cant be pleased with what is happening in Egypt but they look at syria and iraq and say yes what a democratic way of life if you are talking about this freedom no thank you you can keep it we are happy with our nation and army and a country like Egypt the first civilization on earth doesnt wait for your opinion who are you and what have you done in your life to say this

 

[MilSpec]

Read up on what we did with behemoths like India and USSR. Trained the insurgent forces, organized operations, and literally demolished the morale of massive Indian and Soviet Armies (At the peak, India had to station 700,000+ forces (Army/Paramilitary etc) in Kashmir Valley alone! That's how intense we made it for them). We have totally contained India within its borders.

You sure about that, last time Indian forces declared war, it ended up in 90K pows within 14 days... Second largest unilateral surrender since the WW2. If this is the idea of containment, sure then we are!

USSR was shreded in Afghanistan by forces commanded by us, trained by us, and sheltered by us. Saudis/U.S just provided funding and some weapons. You think you can even think of surviving against a military machine like that of Pakistan? Have you seen your size?.

Machine fueled by US aid, I am pretty sure they can.

If both countries were neighbors, and no outside interference, Pakistani Military would've decimated your entire nation along with its military. Israel NEVER faced "professional" militaries like that of Pakistan, NATO, or the U.S. Its victories came over illtrained, illorganized, and all-over-the-place militaries of Arabs of 1960's....Even in those same wars, Pakistani pilots faced Israelis multiple times and shot them down every.single.time. under multiple war-time circumstances.

So in this hypothetical scenario, Israel would have accounted for pakistani threat as well.

Your "iron domes" would have been destroyed by Pakistan's Air Power armed with MAR-1 and even Stand-off stealth cruise missiles with massive 450kg warheads that can bomb Israeli mainland from 350km away.

That is good humor, you really are threatening Israelis, the makers of Derby/Python/ Worlds highest rated awacs, indigenous tanks, SPH's, Their own aircrafts with Mar-1 and CM's.

You can only bomb defenseless Palestinians who have no navy, no air force, no mechanized infantry, no army, no air-defense, and no nothing!

No they have bombed Syria, jordan, lebanon, iraq, egypt... all of them not just Palestinians.. As far as your love for Palestinians go, guess what your chief zia ul haq did for jordan?

You are nothing but a miniscule mouse when compared to us---A nation of 200 million with a very-well trained million man+ military armed-to-teeth with thousands of 3rd generations tanks, mechanized armor, artillery, cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, modern 4th generation fighter jets, AWACS, long-range radars, MRLs, submarines, naval warships, attack helicopters, and every single weapon that modern 21st militaries use.

now that was too funny to even answer too...

Moreover, Pakistan Army goes back to British era. The rich experience it has fighting multiple wars, even world war 2, and then multiple wars with India, operations in Afghanistan, and even in Middle-East---Israel can only but dream of achieving such high level of military experience and such rich military tradition.

forgot to mention the largest unilatral surrender where almost 55,000 soldiers surrendered without a fight....

In 2010, Pakistan's basic "infantry team" won the toughest-ever designed International Military exercises in Britain (where 48 nations were taking part..including U.S, UK, Germany, Austrailia, India and so on)....That's how well-trained soldiers we have. What do you have other than your 150,000 or so well-trained soldiers? Bunch of teenages with some military service regarded as "reserves?" You think they'll be able to withstand the endurance of Pakistani reserves who are nothing but soldiers with complete military training..and not just '3 years after highschool fun' ...

True, but you should ask hamas what the resrve forces of Israel can do...

You might be more modern...or you might have more jets than Pakistan etc..but you are just too small to withstand the firepower from hell that Pakistan would unleash on you if there was a war between two nations (i.e, if Pakistan and Israel were neighbors).

Would you like to extend the same logic to other regional playes vis-a-vis pakistan

You face firecrackers from Hamas...Pakistan's arsenal include hypersonic anti-ship/air-to-ground missiles that travel at Mach 5/Mach 6 in terminal stages. And I haven't even mentioned 25 ton nuclear-armed ballistic missiles yet. Go figure.

Really you want to harp on about a Chinese missile, to a country which provides Technology transfer to china....


The fact remain that pakistan indeed is a very capable and potent force compared to Arab forces, but trying to project that Pak-israel conflict will be a cake walk for pakistan, is ridiculous.
Also harping on pakistani weaponry which is mostly of foreign origin except for it's Cm's and Bm's is very immature against Israel which is one of the leading nations in research and development of advanced weaponry.

 

[TeesraIndiotHunter]

i am sure people like you cant be pleased with what is happening in Egypt but they look at syria and iraq and say yes what a democratic way of life if you are talking about this freedom no thank you you can keep it we are happy with our nation and army and a country like Egypt the first civilization on earth doesnt wait for your opinion who are you and what have you done in your life to say this

Syria was dictaroship, Iraq was destroyed by U.S invasion. Egypt had NO commonality with any nation.

Egypt had a golden chance with Muslim Brotherhood winning elections and country going towards democratization..Look at you now...back under Mubarak Regime! LMAO!

 

[Contrarian]

I understand the level of passion you have toward Israel, however, what I can't comprehend is the fact that you keep posting the same pictures all day long. Are you trying to be more Israeli than the Israelis themselves? Stick to the topic.

The topic is about a news related to a given country, with a given policy, and a given ground, and it was never meant for showing this or that video.

You might want to keep showing your affection toward Israel some where else my dear. But the truth is, they careless about you the most, you are just an emotional asset to them.

Its more of a piss Pakistani's off thing with Indians Yzd. You should know that.

Our diplomatic position is our correct marker. We remain steadfastly neutral and advocate no violence from either side.

You should also know one thing - we don't believe in allies. We as a Nation- like the Turks and Americans - believe "nations have no permanent friends or allies, they have permanent interests".
Never have, never will.

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

Syria was dictaroship, Iraq was destroyed by U.S invasion. Egypt had NO commonality with any nation.

Egypt had a golden chance with Muslim Brotherhood winning elections and country going towards democratization..Look at you now...back under Mubarak Regime! LMAO!

some one like you cant see or understand what is happening here in Egypt

 

[TeesraIndiotHunter]

some one like you cant see or understand what is happening here in Egypt

Its not about someone like "me"....ENTIRE world holds the same view as I have.

Anyways...

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

Its not about someone like "me"....ENTIRE world holds the same view as I have.

Anyways...

i dont care about the world too i have my own planet it is called Egypt

 

[Musafir117]

A beast when target it's prey for hunt he use many tactics and one of them is to make prey ALONE from it's group, the main reason of this tactic is that during hunt it's prey no one else come near quickly to save the prey.
Look around Palestine countries they are divided into Sunni Shia more than Muslims
they are more happy to see each other in miseries and prayed for more destruction.

Nothing change in future too till Muslim world not unite and come out from their sectarian believes.

 

[GURU DUTT]

@GURU DUTT
what is needed is to find solutions not helping a side to hate the other side by demonizing all the unhabitants
like the first video with the map appearing like all the people around want the Israeli death

Even if it was true, this is better to work for a better world than work for a more hatred world

well hussain when you know that all your comined adverseries want is your death and nothing less than that then tell me how come you try to make bonds with them and make peace with them they understand onli one language and that is what they put there questions in ... so the bottom line is you dont negociate with cancer you fight it .. period