KPK Govt launches online FIR System !

[Luftwaffe]

@Leader congratulations PTI has done excellent Job only i would want website ot be more modern/streamline.

Now ignore batmannow he has a bad habit of bad mouthing specially bad mouthing KPK-IK-PTI, you should avoid speaking to racists. No amount of argument goes through certain people's head.

 

[Luftwaffe]

@hinduguy and everyone else who are complaining about non availability of internet services, That does not mean you stop providing services online or offline.

Does it mean if police can't control law & order police should be abolished since they cannot deliver, you have been fooled your friend batmannow has this negative psyche.

 

[batmannow]

@Leader congratulations PTI has done excellent Job only i would want website ot be more modern/streamline.

Now ignore batmannow he has a bad habit of bad mouthing specially bad mouthing KPK-IK-PTI, you should avoid speaking to racists. No amount of argument goes through certain people's head.

i mean you are a million % right on it, some peoples cant speak a single word that thier MpS in KpK were brutlly murdered by TTp thugs?
it includes you too?
by launching this website, its a good step in modernization of a decade old, policing system, there is no problem in that, but thinking that it will going to bring the deadliest of terrorist to the hanging line, is just day dreaming, a real show of unexperinced sunami thinking, which lost its way on 11th may 2013?
now tell me what i did wrong! friend?

 

[livingdead]

@hinduguy and everyone else who are complaining about non availability of internet services, That does not mean you stop providing services online or offline.

Does it mean if police can't control law & order police should be abolished since they cannot deliver, you have been fooled your friend batmannow has this negative psyche.

some people oppose just for opposing because they have their own favourite messiah, for batman , its mushy.
This is a good effort, actually many indians have been demanding to have a centralized call center (independent of police force) who will take a call and give you a tracking id for FIR, because their KRA is based on customer service and call handling, they wont be against FIRs.

The current system of FIR has the problem that it gives no incentive to police, only extra work. And also makes crime stats look bad.

 

[batmannow]

some people oppose just for opposing because they have their own favourite messiah, for batman , its mushy.
This is a good effort, actually many indians have been demanding to have a centralized call center (independent of police force) who will take a call and give you a tracking id for FIR, because their KRA is based on customer service and call handling, they wont be against FIRs.

The current system of FIR has the problem that it gives no incentive to police, only extra work. And also makes crime stats look bad.

offtopic!
sorry, to intrup but i am nt the topic?
as far as the likness goes, its been allowed here isnt it?
i mean you will never see my goddam avatar hving mushy,s pic for instance?
but you will find, a lot of members having different avatars with different pics of different political leaders ?
batman stands for justice , protection, & liberty of its gotham city?
he dont hve favourites, but all he does just be on the side of righteous ones?
& it really means that it couldbe you, or he?
A hero can be anyone; even a man doing something as simple and reassuring as putting a coat around a young boy's shoulders to let him know the world hasn't ended yet!

ontopic!
in that case, thats a major step ahead of other provinces, but in the end it all ends up on the dam political tables, where i dont hve any goddam dreams on?
without fighting terror, there willbe nothing to achive?
lets just think about it, some one launch,s a goddam E-FIR thn what?
we hve the same process, same decade old evidence collection, same old procecution, & same old judges with terror in thier minds, where could be any justice?
as all this was the reason why in past 5 dam years. non of the terrorists got any punishment, so the best occupation has become terrorism in KPK SPECIALLY?
it all starts with fighting terror. nothing in between?
as long as PTI hving soft corner in its mind for terrorists, nothing will be achivable in KPK.?
hopefully someday, PTI is going to make the decsion!
with that yes, i see a green light at the end of very long tunnel?
then it all will be worthy, to think about i mean, mobile courts & E-FIRs in KPK?

 

[Thorough Pro]

1- How can mobile number be mandatory? What if the reporter does not have a mobile.
2- Why no CNIC number of complainant for positive ID?

 

[airmarshal]

Whatever PTI does, it has set very high standards for itself.

And cynical sharks of media are also circling them. At their slight failure, they say 'didn't I tell you?...'. So PTI has to be careful. It must deliver. If it does not, before even political parties start ripping apart, the media will. PTI does not have a militant wing so media is not afraid to criticize it even when it is undue.

 

[American Pakistani]

2 Months passed but KPK govt has done nothing impressive, like many, i had high expectations from KPK govt.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Were you expecting PTI to start streams of milk and honey or gold bars to grow on trees?

2 Months passed but KPK govt has done nothing impressive, like many, i had high expectations from KPK govt.

 

[Leader]

1- How can mobile number be mandatory? What if the reporter does not have a mobile.
2- Why no CNIC number of complainant for positive ID?

landline are not common anymore, especially in KPK. mobiles are more common.

CNIC is also mandatory.

 

[alibaz]

landline are not common anymore, especially in KPK. mobiles are more common.

CNIC is also mandatory.

Yep, landlines are not common any more cause mobiles have gone very cheap, in less than 1000 Rs one can get a new cell phone along with a SIM and some balance. Secondly PTCL also promotes V phones due to less expences involved in installation and maintenance of copper network. incase of landline they are targeting more for broadband users for value added stuff.
I think more care is needed while issuing mobile SIMs to ensure that it goes to some address and user has verified credentials.

 

[SBD-3]

its a service being offered dear just like people can check the registration details of a vehicle from excise & taxation website. atleast a part of community will be benefited from it rather than not doing anything

I think you're rather comparing apples with oranges. The service to check something and the service to add something (or lodge something as the case here) are two altogether different things. FIR is one of the most crucial aspects of police investigation. Almost all of the police investigation and subsequent court proceedings is based upon the information provided in FIR. Now computerization of criminal record would be a passive service (just like we have for registration details), helping people to identify and avoid potential outlaws. But FIR online and that too without any checks ( to confirm that the FIR is genuine) is potentially a risky venture since anybody can lodge a fake FIR using online facility against anyone. I don't know the details of the project but I haven't seen any checks in place apparently to varify the genuineness of person reporting FIR. You may wake up on one fine morning only to know that an FIR has been lodged against you by somebody using online FIR lodging facility.
Its a good step, no doubt, but potentially a very risk step if launched without proper checks and balance.

 

[Fracker]

is FIR different from complaint? its a good idea though, sometimes police does not lodge FIR even if you go to them.

FIR stands for "First Information Report". So definitely it's not a Complaint. I don't know whether you are aware of Pakistani Law or not, but Police has to register "Roznamcha" a.k.a Daily Report first, and based on that initial investigation happens and then "Inspector" has to register "FIR". So common people launching FIR is definitely against the LAW.

If they really want to maintain, Check n Balance in Police they should Launch Online Complaint System. And Audit of police needs to be tighten.

 

[Spring Onion]

Good step. It will encourage people to come forward for registering complaints.


It wont be against the law as there must be some machenism to accept these complaints for further process.


People are hesitant to go to notorious police stations for regsitering complaint hence its a good step.


And dont worry if people in Waziristan have access to net then others can also have means and ways to get access to net for complaint.


Now the further steps include educating police staff how to use computer and understand the online complaints )))

 

[Amaa'n]

I think you're rather comparing apples with oranges. The service to check something and the service to add something (or lodge something as the case here) are two altogether different things. FIR is one of the most crucial aspects of police investigation. Almost all of the police investigation and subsequent court proceedings is based upon the information provided in FIR. Now computerization of criminal record would be a passive service (just like we have for registration details), helping people to identify and avoid potential outlaws. But FIR online and that too without any checks ( to confirm that the FIR is genuine) is potentially a risky venture since anybody can lodge a fake FIR using online facility against anyone. I don't know the details of the project but I haven't seen any checks in place apparently to varify the genuineness of person reporting FIR. You may wake up on one fine morning only to know that an FIR has been lodged against you by somebody using online FIR lodging facility.
Its a good step, no doubt, but potentially a very risk step if launched without proper checks and balance.

My dear you really dont have to tell me what an FIR is and what it does, so save your time and effort while explaining it to me.
Coming to the topic than every facility has its backdrops just like Lahore excise and taxation service, well every province has it now, you know the flaw in this service?
Anyone on the road can see the reg number of my car, type it in and he gets to know my name, my father's name, my city, my car engine number chasis number. Next thing i know there are 10 clones of my car roaming around the district. That is some serious violation of my privacy.

Talking about online fir than even london met, MI5/6 even allow online complaint. The reason we opted for fir and not complaint is because police does not make an fir for influtential people, or people with money, or sometime they take money from the poor victim, this is to cut on that. Once fir has been lodged Police will have to investigate anyway.