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SC ki dhamki kay dar say police registered FIR under it's own name, nominating unknown persons. Wah
Kaarrawai in the best Pulluss tradition.
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SC ki dhamki kay dar say police registered FIR under it's own name, nominating unknown persons. Wah
reminds me of Andhera Ujala where the culprits would be able to escape leaving behind their loot becuae Jaffer Hussain's Jeep or motor bike ke engine mein kachra aagaya tha...Kaarrawai in the best Pulluss tradition.
Well congrats they registered an FIR against aerial firing Geo Punjab PoliceFiling of FIR against the 3 names would be a huge milestone alone for Supreme Court.
If a serving officer is named on frivolous, politically motivated charges, then it would be a self goal. After this army will be within its right to pick up any civilian and court martial them. Imran only wants a way out now. This FIR will offer that to the masses that Imran Khan has 'achieved the unachievable' so the people can be conned into going home feeling victorious. Where does he want to lead us?? He will also suffer the consequences.If maj gen faisal is included in the FIR that's something really incredible like never in history before. But I think it's a lolli pop from Supreme Court they will name other two suspects and won't touch army gen. Even if they include all three it's just the FIR. Later the same court will give them pre arrest bail. This is Pakistan I've seen this topi drama many times.
So you don't understand any thing like basic law. Just like how military high ups don't.If a serving officer is named on frivolous, politically motivated charges, then it would be a self goal. After this army will be within its right to pick up any civilian and court martial them. Imran only wants a way out now. This FIR will offer that to the masses that Imran Khan has 'achieved the unachievable' so the people can be conned into going home feeling victorious. Where does he want to lead us?? He will also suffer the consequences.
Sure army is separate entity hence why it can court martial any civilian.I After this army will be within its right to pick up any civilian and court martial them. Imran only wants a way out now.
As far as I know a legal FIR hasn't been cut. Police were trying to do so it couldn't because they were fearing to be picked up by aliens themselves and get "lapata"Police finally register FIR over attack on PTI chief following SC intervention
Senior govt, military officials not nominated in case despite PTI’s insistence.www.dawn.com
Police finally register FIR over attack on PTI chief following SC intervention
Nasir Iqbal | Asif Chaudhry Published November 8, 2022 Updated about an hour ago
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PTI workers and his private bodyguards help Imran Khan out of the container following the attack in Wazirabad on Nov 3. —Aun Jafri
• Senior govt, military officials not nominated in case despite PTI’s insistence
• IG blames CM Elahi, Moonis blames ‘unknown persons’, police for delay in FIR registration
LAHORE / ISLAMABAD: After the Supreme Court warned that it would initiate suo motu proceedings if the Punjab police failed to register an FIR regarding the assassination attempt on former prime minister Imran Khan, the provincial police finally registered the case under terrorism charges, with detained suspect Naveed being nominated as the prime accused.
The FIR lodged on the complaint of Sub-Inspector Amir Shahzad at 11:10pm on Monday under Section 7 of the Anti-Terrorism Act, and Section 302, 324, and 440 of the Pakistan Penal Code was registered after a delay of three days.
Even though the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) chief accused Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, Interior Minister Rana Sanaullah, and a senior intelligence officer Major General Faisal Naseer of the alleged conspiracy to kill him, the FIR did not mention any of these names.
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The senior government and military men were nominated in an application filed by a PTI leader, Zubair Khan Niazi, for the registration of the case.
According to events that transpired before the registration of the case, the applicant and the police staff locked horns over the generation of an e-tag for the application. A police official who shared the details with Dawn said the staff refused to issue the e-tag without receiving the copy of the application and the contents it was carrying.
The applicant was hesitating to drop it at the front desk of the police station saying that his political party leadership wanted to keep the contents of the application secret due to the sensitivity of the matter, the official added. The issue remained unresolved until the police registered the FIR on the complaint of a sub-inspector, he added.
The FIR came after IGP Faisal Shahkar in line with the directives of the apex court ordered the Gujrat district police officer (DPO) to lodge the case so a copy of the FIR could be submitted to the SC today. He also conveyed to the DPO the decision of Chief Justice Umar Ata Bandial who had ordered him to register the case within 24 hours. “The DPO had been conveyed to act as per law as per directions of the SC,” Mr Shahkar said.
‘Register in 24 hours’
Earlier in the day, the Supreme Court took exception to the delay in the registration of the FIR and directed the IGP to register the case within 24 hours if he did not want to face suo motu proceedings over the matter.
Editorial: Deepening crises
The apex court made these remarks during a contempt case against the PTI chairman over the May 25 violence and the alleged violation of an undertaking given to the court by the PTI. However, the proceedings ended up with the court issuing directions over multiple issues, including the assassination bid on Imran Khan, alleged political interference in the Punjab police, the Azam Swati case, and Arshad Sharif’s murder probe.
“Can’t you see this is an assassination attempt against a national leader,” observed Chief Justice Umar Ata Bandial with a direction that the provincial police will report to the Supreme Court in writing about the registration of the FIR and subsequent measures taken regarding the investigation.
At the outset of the hearing, the court asked PTI’s counsel Salman Akram Raja to approach the rostrum and acknowledged that he had a valid reason for seeking time for furnishing a detailed reply on behalf of Imran Khan.
The CJ said the assassination attempt on Mr Khan was “very distressing” but also noted that the PTI chairman had been discharged from the hospital. The case will be taken up next week. The counsel expressed the hope that he may sit with his client on Thursday to seek fresh instructions and finalise the reply.
‘FIR delay’
In response to an observation by the CJ about the delay in the FIR registration, Mr Raja said that he had been told that the concerned police station was reluctant. “No FIR means no investigation,” CJP said, adding even the evidence could be altered due to the delay.
Giving reasons for the delay, Punjab IG Shahkar who joined the proceedings via video link from Lahore said that as per the concerned district police officer (DPO), no formal complaint has been received by the police. The IG claimed that he had also discussed the matter with Chief Minister Parvez Elahi but the CM had “some reservations over the content of the FIR”.
The provincial government has certain views on the matter but such views cannot override the views of the police, the CJP said, adding whatever the case may be, the investigation must move forward. “We will take interest and see that this is done,” CJ Bandial said, adding the court will support the police in all lawful actions.
The government acts on its own but no one will be allowed to interfere in the police work either, the CJP observed. He told the IG that this “court will interfere in their work if someone interferes in his work”. Also, look at the medical reports, Justice Bandial told the police chief while postponing further proceedings for a week.
Moonis hits back
The son of Punjab CM, Moonis Elahi, reacted strongly to the claims made by the Punjab IG and said the police chief was stopping from registering the case by “unknown persons” — a euphemism for establishment.
This isn't frigging utopia where every FIR is meant to serve the wronged entity. This is politically motivated. Everyone would acknowledges that except for people obsessed with Imran.So you don't understand any thing like basic law. Just like how military high ups don't.
I think we should just make the chief as our president and core commanders as voters..why waste money in maintaining a political system and Judiciary??
In case you want learn law, so here it is..even if IK names joe Biden, he should be named in FIR. That's what an FIR is..
Later police can exclude him by simply stating that it's ludicrous as the Joe Biden wasn't near the crime scene.
No wonder why no one can touch roa Anwar, why ishan ullah ihsan is sitting in turkey and so on... It's a kingdom run by army chiefs..each chief ensuring maximum soldiers die so they can maintain a good image in public..hence every chief tries it's best to kill more soldiers by keeping conflicts alive working as hire for kill or ensuring cheap MRAPs are not bought while they them selves run in BMWs or luxury cars..
No wonder an Indian army Chief will move in jeep and retire in Mumbai while our will move in BMWs and retire in Lamborghini in Dubai
Sure army is separate entity hence why it can court martial any civilian.
Army doesn't work for civilians. It's the civilians who work for army.
Thanks for clarifying that part.
"Bloody civilians don't know anything "
As far as I know a legal FIR hasn't been cut. Police were trying to do so it couldn't because they were fearing to be picked up by aliens themselves and get "lapata"
Now a bogus self written FIR without guy complaining is reportes..this paper can't be named as an FIR
Of course it won't happenThis isn't frigging utopia where every FIR is meant to serve the wronged entity. This is politically motivated. Everyone would acknowledges that except for people obsessed with Imran.
PTI can keep whining. Army does not need to stomp them when they can be therapied in submission. PTI wants to just light the fuse with this FIR and enjoy the fireworks. Friggin elevon year olds..... It won't be allowed to happen
After this army will be within its right to pick up any civilian and court martial them
If civilian courts establish this precedent by prosecuting serving officers, then Services can also prosecute civilians, simple. However this issue is not plain and simple. It is a politically motivated attempt to achieve obvious political objectives. That is why this tantrum cannot be given in to.How exactly?
If civilian courts establish this precedent by prosecuting serving officers, then Services can also prosecute civilians, simple.
This is no traffic violation that PTI is accusing the Army of, nor they are asking for a speeding ticket. Sure Army would surrender their people to the police if they get caught in a criminal act pants down.So a military officer who commits a traffic violation cannot be caught by the police? That is in effect what you are saying. Or, an officer involved in a traffic incident cannot be caught by the police. Or an officer who commits a murder cannot be tried in a court of law?
I can cite at least 2 different examples, one from Multan and one from Pindi where military officers were caught by the police and prosecuted in court. Jo phir JAG nay kia tha un kay sath woh alag kahani hai.
Would be happy if you can cite a source which says otherwise.
This is no traffic violation that PTI is accusing the Army of, nor they are asking for a speeding ticket. Sure Army would surrender their people to the police if they get caught in a criminal act pants down.
But there is nothing straightforward about this case. As I said earlier, Imran is trying to get this FIR registered to achieve a token victory so he can go home. Everyone can see that, not even his own people can give any solid arguments about why the officer should be named, they don't have any basis.
What basis does Imran have to nominate Maj. Gen. Faisal ?? Did the officer threaten him personally?? Did anyone else pretending to be his associate threaten him ?? How can he conclusively point fingers to this particular officer?? Tbh it just looks like they needed to blame the ISI and just asked around for a name. I don't think PTI has shared their application with the press, infact they are hiding it claiming it to be 'sensitive', however they would need to tell in the FIR how from point a to b to x leads to Gen. Faisal, for the police to investigate.Stop changing the goal posts.
Your initial argument was that if a military man is tried in a civilian court, a civilian can then be court martialled. Either back up your argument, or admit your fault.
We can then come to the merits of this particular case later on, and we might even agree with each other's positions.
To nominate someone in an FIR, you do not need to provide 10 volumes of evidence...you simply name the person who you suspect of the crime.