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Kowtowing to Beijing, USA officially declines to deploy fleet to South China Sea

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The looming military showdown in the South China Sea: Gertz | Asia Times

Instead of a carrier group, the administration is likely to send one of its new, lightly-armed Littoral Combat Ships on what the military calls FON, for freedom of navigation, operation, in the next two weeks. :rofl:

The lack of large and muscular American warship presence for the much-anticipated exercise is likely to send the wrong signal to China, and to regional states are looking to the United States for support against China’s expansive and legally-questionable maritime claims.

Recent US military activities in the South China Sea have been limited to intelligence gathering, with flights by P-8 maritime patrol aircraft and high-altitude Global Hawk drones. China, in at least one instance, used electronic warfare in an attempt to disrupt the electronics of Global Hawk flights, according to US defense officials. PLA air controllers in the region have tried unsuccessfully to order P-8s out of the region.

After reports surfaced last week that US allies in Asia were notified of the US decision to conduct naval maneuvers in the South China Sea, Beijing’s propaganda machine shifted into high gear.

State-run Xinhua, mouthpiece of the ruling Communist Party of China, said in a dispatch Oct. 17 that “provocative” US attempts to infringe on China’s maritime sovereignty are “sabotaging” regional peace and “militarizing” the sea.

Beijing even compared the upcoming navigation naval operations to the 1962 Cuban missile crisis, when the United States demanded the removal of Soviet missiles placed 90 miles off the coast of Florida.

“What on earth makes the United States think China should and will tolerate it when US surface ships trespass on Chinese territory in the South China Sea?” the news agency blustered in a commentary.

Chinese officials outlined Beijing’s position on the upcoming US naval operation in other state-run media. Spokesmen say a military confrontation is unlikely – unless U.S. warships sail within the 12-mile zone and remain there. China’s position seems to be that it will not object to internationally recognized close ship passage. But if the ships stay within the 12-mile zone of the newly constructed islands then naval PLA warships will be dispatched to force them out.

“China will never tolerate any military provocation or infringement on sovereignty from the United States or any other country, just as the United States refused to 53 years ago,” Xinhua said.

“Tensions between China and the other claimant states, namely the Philippines and Vietnam, have the potential to spark an armed clash, which would threaten regional stability and the global economy and could involve the United States,” the commission’s annual report will state, according to a late draft of the report.

Additionally, China’s military buildup on the islands “could enhance China’s anti-access/area denial capabilities, potentially challenging the US military’s ability to freely operate in the region,” the report said, noting that South China Sea control could be aimed at disrupting US Navy efforts to defend Taiwan in a future conflict with the mainland. :smokin:

The report provides new details on China’s military buildup on the Spratlys, including an airstrip on Mischief Reef and deep-water channel for warships; similar military construction and an airstrip on Subi Reef; and a runway on Fiery Cross Reef along with new piers and support facilities.

On Cuateron Reef, a second PLA helipad and sensor array was built, and on Gaven Reef, a second military facility with communications gear was set up. Johnson Reef is getting a second Chinese military facility, fuel dump and desalination pumps, and on Hughes Reef, a new harbor and military facility are part of the buildup.

China’s military activities in the South China Sea are described in the report as a “gradual, salami-slicing approach” to consolidating maritime claims through incremental actions that would not be a casus belli. The approach shifted in late 2013 with a renew urgency in land reclamation.

The coming showdown will be a test of resolve for US interests in Southeast Asia, a region that is wary of growing Chinese hegemony.

Absent a more muscular military demonstration, however, the showdown likely will end in China’s favor and seriously further undermine regional stability.

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For its size its packing a lot of firepower.
No.

The LCS is woefully equipped. Its main weapon is the 57mm gun.

China's Type 056 light frigate possesses far more military power. The Type 056 has a larger 76mm gun. More importantly, the Chinese Type 056 has four anti-ship missiles. Furthermore, the Type 056 has six torpedo tubes.

Both the LCS and Type 056 have short-range anti-missile missiles.

Summary:

LCS: 57mm gun
Type 056: 76mm gun

LCS: no anti-ship missiles
Type 056: 4 anti-ship missiles

LCS: no torpedo tubes
Type 056: six torpedo tubes

LCS: 21 RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile surface-to-air missiles
Type 056: 8 FL-3000N surface-to-air missiles

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Chinese Type 056 light frigate/corvette stalks American LCS in the South China Sea.

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Type 056 light frigate/corvette has 160km missile range. LCS RIM-116 has range of only 9km.
 
They are put in their right place.

Lots of sad Vietnamese and Filipino souls.

Anyway, maybe next time. Looks like the US is giving a bit more time for China to complete its peace and development-oriented island genesis scheme in the South China Sea.

Then lots and lots of US trade ships will be able to pass the waters a lot more wonderfully and safely.
 
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To avoid miscalculations the US is trying to lower the tension by sending little combat ships and not their carrier battle groups to "freak" China out :rofl:. You never know what China gonna do with our "shaky" hands.


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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
G2。:coffee::azn::D

Neither China nor the US is STUPID enough to sacrifice their mutual interest and mutual respect for the benefit of a few thieves。

A political G2 was a very very bad proposal and thankfully was outright rejected by China.

China's development is inclusive and harmonious. Not like that of the US which is militaristic, divisive and inhuman.
 
A political G2 was a very very bad proposal and thankfully was outright rejected by China.

China's development is inclusive and harmonious. Not like that of the US which is militaristic, divisive and inhuman.

True, the US wanted G2 so China can play the 2nd fiddle. Erhh i don't think so :lol:
 
American Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) has serious weaknesses.

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The American LCS' only defensive weapon is the RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missiles. However, it can only point backwards. The front hemisphere of the ship is undefended.

The RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missiles on the LCS has two serious problems.

1. The RIM-116 only covers the back hemisphere of the LCS. The front half is defenseless.

2. The RIM-116 only has a range of five miles. It has to wait until the last few seconds before firing. This means the heavy RIM-116 unit does not have time to swivel to defend the other side of the ship.
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Three ways to exploit the LCS defensive weaknesses.

1. Vector an anti-ship missile in from the front of the LCS. It's undefended from the front.

2. Attack the LCS from both sides simultaneously with anti-ship missiles. The RIM-116 cannot fire early and swivel. It has to wait for the last few seconds until an incoming anti-ship missile is within the five mile range of the RIM-116.

3. "Vector in" two or more anti-ship missiles in a straight line. They separate at the last moment. The RIM-116 cannot target multiple anti-ship missiles that have been programmed to separate at the last moment and impact simultaneously. The advantage lies with the attacker.

The best strategy is to exploit all three of the LCS weaknesses. Fire a barrage of C-802 and C-803 anti-ship missiles that converge simultaneously on the LCS from all directions at the same time.

The probability of an LCS surviving a simultaneous missile barrage is pretty low. It does not belong in the South China Sea.
 
US won't come for help. That's granted. Especially for some Southeast Asian communist regime that taught a bloody lesson some 40 years ago.

The reason the Americans fought a long and disastrous war in Vietnam was simply due to Chinese involvement, in the Korean War exactly the same despite how backward China was in those early days. And with our current capabilities the US didn't want to ignite another Korean War. What makes the Pinoys and Viets think the US is gonna send their boys to die on their behalf in return for what? peanuts? :rofl:
 
The reason the Americans fought a long and disastrous war in Vietnam was simply due to Chinese involvement, in the Korean War exactly the same despite how backward China was in those early days. And with our current capabilities the US didn't want to ignite another Korean War. What makes the Pinoys and Viets think the US is gonna send their boys to die on their behalf in return for what? peanuts? :rofl:

Indeed, if the US stopped short after intense warmongering against DPRK and nuclear development, they won't do other than some diplomatic mouth-bragging and howling with respect to some rocks and reefs protruding in SCS let alone involving in what China does with its islands in the SCS.

If they ask us to stop construction in SCS islands, we may return the favor by asking them to stop all construction in Hawaii.
 
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