Learn your own culture first moron, separatists like you are trying to hijack it since pkk has no culture other than terrorism.
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this guy trying to teach me nevruz lol
For Kurds all over Kurdistan,
especially in Northern Kurdistan, Newroz is a symbol freedom. And it fits as the story is also about freedom from tyrants like turkey. Because the turks found it very un-turkish and it was surprising to see the mountain turks celebrate such a thing. So lets go and forbid it you said. And Kurds showed the finger and celebrated it anyway. The great martyr Mazlum Dogan burned himself in jail for Kurds not being allowed to celebrate Newroz. Who the **** are you trying to fool?
while we are it
Lice. Kurdish town in Turkey. Burnt down by Turkish Army in 93. New Pictures.
Kurdish Town of 35,000 Burnt to the Ground by Turkish Army in 1993.
Pictures by Hevallo.
All of these pictures were taken under the most extreme circumstances. They were taken clandestinely as we were under very close 'supervision' by different teams of Turkish Army and Police Intelligence Agencies. They were presented to the European Court of Human Rights by the Kurdish Human Rights Project in their case against Turkey.
Only these two shops were not burnt. Jash or Kurdish traitors owned them, they had to be protected by the army!
Lice (Pronounced Leejay)22nd October 1993. A Kurdish conscript of the Turkish army came to the town school and told the teachers to take the children somewhere safe as, "there is going to be a massacre here today". Then hundreds of soldiers entered the town with jeeps, tanks, helicopters and flamethrowers.
Many people were shot in the streets as they ran for cover. Holes from millions of rounds ammunition peppered all the buildings and the minaret of the local mosque had a hole the size of a large car at the base.
Eye witness statements told of Land Rovers with small trailers on the back full of 'a chemical substance' which was being shovelled by soldiers onto the floors of shops, only to spontaneously combust into flames.
The only house to be left standing was one that had a Turkish flag hanging in the garden. A young Kurdish pupil had been instructed by the Turkish teacher to take the flag home the previous day so as to wash and dry it. So it was hanging on the washing line. All the shops in the main street were gutted by fire.
A large town with a population of around 35,000 people, razed and not a word, not a whisper from the international community. During the nineties over 4,000 Kurdish villages, towns and hamlets were destroyed like this. Always accompanied by the most barbaric human rights abuses carried out by the Turkish army. Killings, mutilations, rape, torture, humilation etc.
"Ten people were burnt alive in this room" a visiting UK trade union delegation were told when they visited the town less than one month after the atrocity. Local people say that over 100 people were brutally killed on 22nd and 23rd of October 1993 when the Turkish army razed Lice.
When this and hundreds of other towns, villages and hamlets were being systematically burnt and sacked, European tourists were coming and oiling themselves with suncream and complaining about the showers in their hotels.
Not a word of protest from anyone!
This from a Turkish Human Rights Report.
Following is information about the events which took place in provincial and district centers:
Lice (Diyarbakır): The most notable pressure and attacks against settlement centers took place in Lice district of Diyarbakır in October. A transformer in the vicinity of Lice was attacked by PKK militants on the night of 14 October. The transformer was damaged and two persons named Fadıl Dinler and Ebugalip Durmuş working in the transformer were abducted.
At the same time, a primary school in the district center was burnt down by unidentified per-sons. Meanwhile, the security forces in the district opened fire and, as a result, some of the houses and shops were damaged.
An air and ground operation was conducted against the PKK camps in the mountainous region near Lice on 20 October. On the evening of the same day, the sounds of gun shots were heard in Lice district center. Upon the gun shots, the security officers opened fire at random.
In the event, Ali Gündoğan (18) and Hüseyin Gündoğan (20) were wounded. This event occasioned tension in the district. On the day and night of 21 October, a strained waiting prevailed in the district and sometimes sounds of gun shots were heard. On the morning of 22 October, a police vehicle in a petroleum station located near Lice was attacked
by PKK mili-tants.
Armoured vehicles sent to the scene of the incident upon the attack, were also shot by PKK militants. Then, a wide-scale military operation was started in Lice and its surrounding.
At the same time, sounds of gun shots started to be heard in Lice. Reinforcement military units were sent from Diyarbakır to Lice.
While the events were continuing, Diyarbakır Gendarmerie Region Command Briga-dier Bahtiyar Aydın was killed by a shot to the eye at noon. By whom Bahtiyar Aydın was shot could not be clearly revealed. Official statements claimed that Bahtiyar Aydın had been killed by PKK militants.
On the other hand, in the statement made by the PKK it was said that PKK militants had not carried out any attacks against Lice and that the events had started when the security officers had opened fire at civilians. In the statement, it was alleged that the Brigadier was victim of an internal disagreement among the security officers and that the event had been used as a justification for a military operation against Lice.
Şemdin Sakık, the then commander of the PKK militants in the region, made a statement before the Lice events, and said: "All of the houses in Lice are hut-type houses. Following our previous attacks against official buil-dings, the security officers raked the district by guns and caused damage.
One bullet can pierce through 3 or 4 houses. In order not to damage the people in Lice, we decided not to attack Lice".
With the killing of Bahtiyar Aydın, the events in Lice escalated. The events continued until the evening of 23 October. During this period, all communication with Lice was cut off and by the evening of 23 October, Lice had become a ruined and burnt out city.
In consequence of the events, at least 30 persons died and about 100 persons were wounded, 32 of whom were treated in the hospitals in Diyarbakır.
The names of some of those killed are as follows: "Brigadier Bahtiyar Aydın, (Diyarbakır Gendarmerie Regional Com-mander), Yüksel Bayar (specialized sergeant), Murat Arar (enlisted man), Nurettin Soyer (teacher), Ali Canpolat (25), Hüseyin Cantürk (15), Dilbirin Cantürk (4), Suna Cantürk (2), Abdullah Dağlar, Şerif Kayran, Zana Mercan (16), Hüseyin Boğa (34), Salih Boğa (29), Rezak Yıldırım (65), Mustafa Mercan (38), Abdullah İzgi (40), Mehmet Kaya (32), Mustafa Çakır (40), Zana Çakır (18), Halil Dolan (70-imam), Mehdin Güler (47), Kudret Ergin (20)". During the events, 401 houses and 242 shops were burnt down and severely damaged, the municipality building was destroyed and many vehicles almost became right-offs. Upon the events, half of the people living in the district emigrated to other settlement centers.
The Republican People's Party Chairman Deniz Baykal who wanted to go to Lice on 26 October, was not permitted to enter the city.
After he returned to Ankara, Deniz Baykal made a statement and said the following: "The road was barricaded with tanks and graders. We called State Minister Necmettin Cevheri by phone who gave instructions to let us enter. However, the security officers said that we could not enter. Unfortunately, instructions of the government are not valid there. There is a situation far beyond what we expected.
We could not see what hap-pened. As far as I understand, there was no milieu of hot clashes which might threaten security. I think terrible events took place in Lice. The events must have been too unpleasant to be inves-tigated by party members and leaders, and by journalists.
Prime Minister Tansu Çiller intended to go Lice following the events, but reportedly gave up going there because security officers had objected. Chairman of the Association of Human Rights and Solidarity with the Oppressed (Mazlum-Der), İhsan Aslan who conducted research in Lice said: "We could reveal in conse-quence of our talks with people that there was no clash, but one-sided attacks by the state".
Journalist Halil Nebiler who went to Lice after the events settled down, wrote his obser-vations in 29 October 1993 dated newspaper "Cumhuriyet". A summary of his observations is as follows:
We are at the road junction of Lice-Hani. We are waiting for ID checks to be made of those in front of us who have been taken out of the minibus. Body searches, luggage controls, and then our turn has come. Our ID card, press cards. The major sergeant is watching.
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Why have you come here? In order to exaggerate the event, isn't it? You are not good for anything else anyway. So it is the press, is it? Come on, away with you.
It is interesting. There is an incident in Lice. All right. So, the major sergeant does not want the incident to grow bigger. But why? Did not the PKK burn down and destroy these places? Why does the sergeant not want this to be known and to grow bigger? (...)
It is drizzling. There was nobody in downtown of Lice. Downtown is formed by an asph-alt road of about 300 meters surrounded on two sides by two-storied brick houses. We are going to the municipality building at the beginning of downtown. The building is full of holes.
There is neither window nor window frames remaining. At the garage in its garden, one of poor Lice's hydraulic shovels, one minibus and a private car were burnt out. From that place to the mosque.
The mosque is full of holes, too. On the minaret, there is a hole as big as a human head, on a point which is one and half meters high from the ground. A tiny police officer who has not been able to get rid of his anxiety says: "I have been in Lice for one year. It is here that I observed the Kurd-Turk discrimination. If we happen to cough nearby at home, our kid jump up into the air. Look , if something was happened here, there must be a reason for it. The events did not take place without any reasons". (...)
The picture of the burnt and destroyed downtown is still in front of my eyes. There is something that has leaked out of a shop towards the road and has been frozen, which makes me think that it is a gutter formed by melted down plastic materials in the shop.
A Lice dweller says it is not plastic but sugar in the shop. It is raining. We are now on the back streets of Lice. In front of a half intact garden-wall stands a couple who are around 60-70 years old. There also stands their bride holding a baby.
They are crying in front of their house from which no-thing remained. The rain is making dirty mud of ashes in the burnt place. A child appears. A child aged about 8 or 9 years. Just in the middle of the burnt place, I can see the child through the visor of my camera. At the moment he realizes that I am about to press the shutter release of my camera, lifting his arms he has made a "V" with his fingers and smiled. (...)
An old woman does not speak Turkish, and while crying she is muttering something in Kurdish. The only word that I am able to understand is "leşker", which means soldier. A middle-aged man looking around, has said "There were no PKK militants, it was soldiers who destroyed and burnt down everywhere".
An old man on another street is telling us that he heard sounds of gun shots on the first day and that everywhere was destroyed and burnt down on the second day.
On the other hand, what the skinny police officer who came from the Mar-mara region, said is as follows: "At about 9am, we learnt that a police team had been raked. Later, fire was opened from all houses and shops at our houses which continued for 14 hours. They were shooting at our houses from the gallery of the mosque. If something happened, it did not happen without any reason". (...)
Something makes us go back to the municipality building. We are going back there, again. It is a two-storied building on a large square. It was destroyed. Now, let us say that PKK members opened fire from this building and let us suppose that the security forces targeted the building for this reason. So why was the garage in its garden destroyed?
The private car was not just simply burnt down, but deformed as if it crushed against a train. Then other questions. Amongst all the burnt down and destroyed buildings, how did the PTT building manage to remain still shiny and standing upright?
Expect for tiny holes, why is there not much damage on the town-hall next to the municipality building?State Highways Administration building stands as if it was in Bursa and not in Lice at that time. Why were the police lodgings not damaged so much?
Whom do you ask these questions?
The Lice dwellers are experiencing the complete sorrow of the situation with the inability to speak-out.
It is as if they have no other solution but to sit in front of the ruins of their houses and just to cry away. They could not say much to the SHP delegation anyway. While talking to the DEP delegation, we find out that the dwellers told them exactly the same things they told us; "It was not the PKK that did this. The soldiers did it. And the next day they burnt down our shops".
What would Ünal Erkan respond if we asked him about all these? He will possibly state the following: "Militia and militants opened fire from the houses and the security forces reciprocated. There are 13 dead".
The scene we have seen in Lice is not such a scene to be curtained down with just 13 persons killed. Whomever we talk say that his son, her husband, his wife were killed. There must be at least 30-40 persons killed.
We are moving to the highway passing in front of the battalion command building. Lice dwellers on the highway are trying to stop passing-by vehicles, to get on and to leave the district. At the check-point, there are minibuses with matt-resses and quilts loaded on top of them and taxies filled up with 5-6 persons.
Lice is being abandoned. The remaining 500-600 people are merely looking for possible means to leave.
The Lice dwellers have re-named their quarters "Bosnia-Herzegovina Quarter". When we compare Lice event to the Şırnak events, the latter seem very innocent. You can now consi-der Lice as non-existent. An old but still vigorous man summarizes the situation: "What did happen in Lice? Well, the military solution was applied in Lice." (...)
Turkish Human Rights Report of Human Rights Abuses in Turkey in 1993.
Posted 8th September 2007 by Hevallo
It's not some random celebration.
