its a folks adage...if you catch the meaning of it..we will get somewhere..
Algeria wasn't invaded, government wasn't overthrown yet they let some terrorists with flip flops and AK-47s send the entire state into massive civil war with massacres.
true, we weren't invaded, our government didn't collapse, due to the nature of the Algerian people. In face of adversity we close ranks, we fight the intruder until his defeat and then only that we wash our dirty clothes . You dis-union is creating the breach that ISIS exploited and still exploiting...Can you tell me what drive the mutual hatred between the sunni and the shia? the Arabs and the Kurds, the Arabs and the Yazidis, The arabs and the christian arab? All of them are Iraqis! How can you hate as an Iraqi your fellow Iraqi because he dresses or believe differently? Your bigotry over futile things is making your death bed!
Again, Elhassani follower, the Algerian massacres are done by the same one that are murdering your soldiers, raping and selling your women. The Algerian army has never murdered anyone intentionally. All the accusations against her have been debunked in European courts.
Iraq was invaded, the entire system was destroyed and the military was dissolved, a proces of decades since 1991. Would such insurgency occur under Saddam rule ? No, that says enough about your military.
Your generals sold out your country...It does seem that is one your trait!
Iran>Morocco on all fronts, not comparable.
didn't compare them..You are the one who mentioned Morocco defeating us..I just replied to the eggs you've laying.
You defeated Morocco ? it's usual, people from this region claim victory even if they lose.
it is the Arabs that excel in that area... Algeria has never considered that Morocco is a threat to her, while Morocco does
Besides what is that hatred you're displaying now to your fellow Imazigh.
there is no hatred between Moroccans and Algerians. We are the same people, we talk the same language, eat the same food, bullshit the same way too. We are one family.
People die in wars, in Iraq the sanctions of the 90's alone killed 500.000 children, in the Iran-Iraq war close to a million people died, in 1991 the amount of explosives dropped on Iraq was more then the nuke on Japan. In 2003 another mess and then Islamist insurgency. Sounds a lot more then some insurgency coming out of nowhere, too bad we didn't have it that easy they would be squashed during Saddam's reign for various reasons, but it would take pages to explain that in details which is not needed.
You haven't done anything to stop it. To your problems you've found the tribal solutions more suitable..Shia kill one us, lets ten of them..they destroyed our mosque let destroy two of theirs...Iraqi suppose to be one of the most educated people of the MENA. yet you act medieval to fix your problems...
Yeah whatever, in 1991 an Iraqi made SCUD ( Al Hussein variant ) killed 30 + US army soldiers in their barracks in Saudi Arabia, MIG-25's downed their aircraft as well so what is your point again, western tech fails as well, western soldiers
True..it take the will and the motivation.... you have lost both.
doesn't change the fact that their capabilities allows them to do the same with Algeria as Libya, Iraq 1991 etc.
They can hurt us, but we won't make that easy on them, they will bleed like us. And it isn't like they haven't tried...What Syria has been living for the past three years, it was tried against us with the same actors, with a minor difference...Syria has a strong Russia in her side, while we had a weak Russia with no value to us, but we had little Tunisia with her giant citizens . The Algerian army under embargo had to innovate fast and transformed her self in no time from a regular army to a terrorism fighting machine. She took the fight to Sudan who was training our bearded ones and to Kaddafy's Libya for opening the country to them...as well as to Morocco to destroy their refuge. That is facts, even though nothing of the sorts filtered to the press.
Again you go on a nationalistic rant
Just like it is a disease ,to love thyself...and thy country...
whilst switching reality mode of, Algeria didn't contribute more to the Arab cause which was Arab nationalism and the Palestine story, Egypt, Syria and Iraq, Jordan as well contributed a lot to this cause.
Algeria did a lot more...Just ask your the Egyptian PDF's, they are better suited to talk about the arab contribution...and that of Algeria.
Debt isn't written of for fun, it's written of because the return is more beneficial, in trade for example. UAE cancelled 5 billion debt as well in return they got a lot of trade, even though most companies in the UAE are foreign companies it still contributes to their national economy as for Kuwait it'ss just a little US client state, they don't have anything to say.
Algeria is not the UAE or Koweit...I sincerely doubt that she ask anything in return but to make t Iraq's life a lot easier. Our gestures are always guided by our hearts, not by gain.
In Algeria, Arab-Berber Conflict Recalls Plight of Kurds
The only thing they share in common is hatred on Arabs, what motivates the Kurd in the pic is hatred, what motivates Ceylal is hatred.
The Kurds that may hate the arabs for good measure and for good reasons, Berber do not hate arabs...et beside if you really get to know any Algerian, you will see that this image will be very common, be it with a Kurde, a Sahrawi, a Palestinian... We have always helped people seeking their independence or their autonomy.. We were with you too in your last two Bush wars and among all the Arab states, we were the only one who didn't send troops and we were the only one that took your plight to the UN and pleaded with Saddam to come back to reason and leave Koweit. He was too dumb for his own good and look where he took Iraq. I remember reading, the Iraqi foreign minister telling the secretary of state Baker, that Iraq is not Grenada.
Desert storm 1 was a war where the US sent 700K of it's soldiers to the offensive in Iraq along with a massive fleet of heavy weaponry, that is the US alone not to mention all the other NATO states.
Algeria pleaded with Saddam to withdraw..the dumb *** believed that he can bat against the US with 4th largest army.
So Algeria's military would not be destroyed ?
I didn't say that...I said we will hurt them too...And if we draw any parallel between our war of independence against the France, and the vietnam war...I think will come out just fine...and they will leave the same way they came in, but a lump and a lot of body bags..
If you tell this to someone who studied military science he will start laughing at you,
I am not laughing, and who ever study our case won't be laughing either.
what you talk about is conventional warfare not urban or guerilla warfare where you can hide as you did when France
You show here that you have no idea what you are talking about. In the 132 years that France occupied Algeria, she had one year of respite, 1872. That is the only year where no battle was recorded.
Besides what the f*** is France compared to the coalition of 1991,
In 1954, its all relative, but what France threw a us was a lot worse in comparison. they had 1,000,000 between soldiers, police, gendarmerie and all the settlers about one million of them were armed too. Behind it they were a navy, an air force, and the NATO arms stocks that were located in France and France used them freely.
We were 10, 000,000 algerians, from infant to old, with nothing but pitch forks, knifes and artisanal guns.
That is one armed french keeping an eye on five unarmed algerian...that is, every Algerian family of 5 had a French soldiers lurking on her....We weren't the 4th world army armed to the teeth facing 400,000 foreign army. You lost because of poor planing from a President that acted like a General with no army experience. He should have learned from the mistake of his mentor, since he was an avid reader of his book "mein kampf"
France itself dismantled your conventional military capability forcing you into insurgency. I guess the historical facts themselves show the BS you talk right now...
We didn't have a conventional army..therefore, they were no army to dismantle..he only one present was the Turkish one who negotiated her safe passage to Istambul without firing a shot.
