khilaf suntan hamid 2nd. Glorious history of muslims.

[Major d1]

Hi,

Why then you did not fix it in a timely manner----if you knew the difference---.

Differences? Suntan is for you but SULTAN is for whole world.

Sultanate is haram for obvious reasons and there's nothing glorious about a family rule!

family rule? wow. new version i have heard for the first time. Sultanat is haram ? another tragedy.

khilafah-e-rasida was not haram so how could it be possible their governing system process is haram ? In 1400 centuries many things happened. But Khilaf or Sultan didn't selected by the the family kingship method.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

@2800 halako khan was a shia Muslim So bush might be a Sunni @The Sandman @Moonlight @Max @Irfan Baloch

he was sir. chengez khan was the king. halaku was his grandson who converted. ibn Al Alqami was the shia minister who was a traitor.Al Musta'sim billah was the caliph.
prove me wrong that what i said was fabricated and the shias minister never helped halaku against muslims.

 

[Major d1]

he was sir. chengez khan was the king. halaku was his grandson who converted. ibn Al Alqami was the shia minister who was a traitor.Al Musta'sim billah was the traitor.
prove me wrong that what i said was fabricated and the shias minister never helped halaku against muslims.

why u are telling Al Musta'sim billah was a traitor? That time that was happened just for transferring the power.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

why u are telling Al Musta'sim billah was a traitor? That time that was happened just for transferring the power.

no he was not the traitor. his prime minister was.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

Halaku Khan changed his religion to have more control---. He realized that if he converted to the religion of the area---people will follow him.

 

[Major d1]

no he was not the traitor. his prime minister was.

U meant deputy of caliph.

Hi,

Halaku Khan changed his religion to have more control---. He realized that if he converted to the religion of the area---people will follow him.

He converted his religion willingly. Following the word means political purpose.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

U meant deputy of caliph.

something like that. just like for example a saudi king appoint some minister but with power to take any decision in any field of kingdom and answerable only to the king.

He converted his religion willingly. Following the word means political purpose.

he converted by heart not due to political reasons. its the only reason he was afraid of God's wrath and was afraid to attack baghdad unless persuaded by the traitor.
later the same mangols became the power of islam and they helped make muslims stronger again.

 

[Mentee]

he was sir. chengez khan was the king. halaku was his grandson who converted. ibn Al Alqami was the shia minister who was a traitor.Al Musta'sim billah was the caliph.
prove me wrong that what i said was fabricated and the shias minister never helped halaku against muslims.

It would be a great service to humanity if we could declare all shia and brailvi/sufis/sunnis "herectics" of biblical proportions. Cause someone from there sect once helped a tyrant against another tyrant. So if that is the criterion then what to do with that group of "momineen", the hands of which are stained with the Blood of Ahl e Bayt R.A and million other Muslims ?

P.S rest assured every attempt to enforce wahabi/tablewghi "sultanate" on Ajmi Muslims will meet the same fate as of the nagasaki---

 

[Major d1]

What is shia- shunni ?

who made shia- sunni? this division has been created by those group of people those who wanted to destroy islam ethically.

we muslim - that is only one identity for us.