khilaf suntan hamid 2nd. Glorious history of muslims.

[Major d1]

Sultan Abdulhamid II was born in Istanbul on the 21st of September, 1842. His father is Sultan Abdul Medjid and his mother is Tir-i Mujgan Kadin Efendi. His mother is a Circassian originated. He lost his mother as a little child and he was grown by his step mother Pristu Kadın. He was weak child and used to fell sick often, by this reason, he was showed great interest especially during his father's reign. He was very well educated and learnt to play piano besides his other courses. Sultan Abdulhamid II lived a free life before he had married. After his marriage, he spent his all spare times with his family. He was inherited an empire which was about to collapse, by his political and social administrations, the empire was saved. He ruled the Ottomans for 33 years. Abdulhamid was a religious, gracious and a generous man. He lived a life of a common person. During the Greece Campaign, it is informed him that, there was not enough money for a campaign. He spent his personnel wealth for the campaign. He was also a brilliant carpenter, he used to make marvellous furniture and used to sell them gave that money to the poor. He was a really gracious man, he even forgave many people intended to him. Sultan Abdul Hamid II had established universities, an Academy of Fine Arts, Schools of Finance and Agriculture. Moreover, he openned a many primary schools, high schools, blind and handicapped schools. He had Sisli Etfal Hospital and Poorhouse built with his own money. He had the excellent drinking water called Hamidiye brought to Istanbul. He extended highways until the internal parts of Anatolia and had railways spread through Baghdad and Medina. He had rider trolley roads spread in capital cities.

His Wifes : Nazik-eda, Bedr-i Felek, Safi-naz Nur-efzun, Bidar, Dilpesend, Mezide Mestan, Emsal-i Nur, Ayse Dest-i Zer Musfika

http://www.theottomans.org/english/family/abdulhamid2.asp

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Sultan Abdulhamid II was born in Istanbul

For gawds sakes his a Turk. The title should be "Glorious history of Turks" and this thread should be in Turkish section. If you insist on using common denominators then there are many to choose from.

* Glorious history of Asia
* Glorious history of men
* Glorious history of circumcized oeople.
* Glorious history dark haired men
* Glorious history of bearded men

@T-123456 @damm1t @xenon54

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

For gawds sakes his a Turk. The title should be "Glorious history of Turks" and this thread should be in Turkish section. If you insist on using common denominators then there are many to choose from.

* Glorious history of Asia
* Glorious history of men
* Glorious history of circumcized oeople.
* Glorious history dark haired men
* Glorious history of bearded men

@T-123456 @damm1t @xenon54

Ottoman Empire was a caliphate and the demonym was primarily "Muslim" followed by ethnicity.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Ottoman Empire was a caliphate and the demonym was primarily "Muslim" followed by ethnicity.

I agree. However we live in 2016. Words and terms have to be translated/transferred to the reality we live in today, which is nation states.

Primary proof of my contention? Today the legatee of the Ottoman Empire is Turkey. Primary assets, intangible and tangible were inheritated by the Turkish Republic. Turkey is the successor state to the Ottoman Empire. Thus my description "Turks".

A Muslim convert in Bangla has no rights, claims even indirect. All I see here is somebody with deep inferiority complex of his own heritage pathetically rubbing himself off by drawing vicarious pleasure from a distant land and even more distant peoples.

Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[T-123456]

Sultan Abdulhamid II was born in Istanbul on the 21st of September, 1842. His father is Sultan Abdul Medjid and his mother is Tir-i Mujgan Kadin Efendi. His mother is a Circassian originated. He lost his mother as a little child and he was grown by his step mother Pristu Kadın. He was weak child and used to fell sick often, by this reason, he was showed great interest especially during his father's reign. He was very well educated and learnt to play piano besides his other courses. Sultan Abdulhamid II lived a free life before he had married. After his marriage, he spent his all spare times with his family. He was inherited an empire which was about to collapse, by his political and social administrations, the empire was saved. He ruled the Ottomans for 33 years. Abdulhamid was a religious, gracious and a generous man. He lived a life of a common person. During the Greece Campaign, it is informed him that, there was not enough money for a campaign. He spent his personnel wealth for the campaign. He was also a brilliant carpenter, he used to make marvellous furniture and used to sell them gave that money to the poor. He was a really gracious man, he even forgave many people intended to him. Sultan Abdul Hamid II had established universities, an Academy of Fine Arts, Schools of Finance and Agriculture. Moreover, he openned a many primary schools, high schools, blind and handicapped schools. He had Sisli Etfal Hospital and Poorhouse built with his own money. He had the excellent drinking water called Hamidiye brought to Istanbul. He extended highways until the internal parts of Anatolia and had railways spread through Baghdad and Medina. He had rider trolley roads spread in capital cities.

His Wifes : Nazik-eda, Bedr-i Felek, Safi-naz Nur-efzun, Bidar, Dilpesend, Mezide Mestan, Emsal-i Nur, Ayse Dest-i Zer Musfika

http://www.theottomans.org/english/family/abdulhamid2.asp

Why did you start with the last Sultan,why not with the first?

 

[Baybars Han]

There was many more greater Sultan's than Abulhamid II. He lost a lot of land as Sultan thus I don't count him as a great Sultan.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

why not with the first?

Does it matter? He was 'Muslim'. Enuff said.

great Sultan.

He was 'Muslim'. Enuff said.

 

[T-123456]

Does it matter? He was 'Muslim'. Enuff said.


He was 'Muslim'. Enuff said.

Yes,they will accomplish alot with that attitude.

There was many more greater Sultan's than Abulhamid II. He lost a lot of land as Sultan thus I don't count him as a great Sultan.

He didnt have a choice,the Empire was already lost.
He did however help the Young Turks secretly.

 

[Baybars Han]

Yes,they will accomplish alot with that attitude.


He didnt have a choice,the Empire was already lost.
He did however help the Young Turks secretly.

I think great leaders always find alternatives. I don't think it was lost.

 

[Major d1]

For gawds sakes his a Turk. The title should be "Glorious history of Turks" and this thread should be in Turkish section. If you insist on using common denominators then there are many to choose from.

* Glorious history of Asia
* Glorious history of men
* Glorious history of circumcized oeople.
* Glorious history dark haired men
* Glorious history of bearded men

@T-123456 @damm1t @xenon54

Sultan abdul hamid 2nd was not only for turk. He was khalif for half of the world. In any section i can post this thread. May be u have misconception about khilafah , and what is that .

@Arefin007

Why did you start with the last Sultan,why not with the first?

Bcz its the history of 1400 centuries. 1st khalish was abu bakar (ra. and when khilafah broken in 1924 hamid was the last khalisf.

There was many more greater Sultan's than Abulhamid II. He lost a lot of land as Sultan thus I don't count him as a great Sultan.

bcz of the conspiracy of west , specially Britain and french attacked many muslim lands that time. they wanted to destroy khilafah as a whole, and that time khilafah became weak. when Britain went to sultan abdul hamid 2nd for palestine land and wanted to pay huge money for that then he replied, i am not to give one inch of palestine, as palestine not mine to give, it belongs to ummah. yes one day u could have palestine for free, but as long as i am alive i am not going to ine inch of palestine to the jews. For this dialog need a hardcore person .

 

[Indus Pakistan]

khilafah

I know. Get three Muslims together. Two of them decalre the third 'khilafah' and bob's your uncle. Oh by the way he might have been Sultan of large part of the world but most definitely not Bangla. It was beholden to the King Emperor of British Empire.

And ask the successors of the Ottoman Empire today if they want the 'khilafah' back. There are lots of Turks from Istanbul here, vast majority will emphatically say

 

[Major d1]

I agree. However we live in 2016. Words and terms have to be translated/transferred to the reality we live in today, which is nation states.

Primary proof of my contention? Today the legatee of the Ottoman Empire is Turkey. Primary assets, intangible and tangible were inheritated by the Turkish Republic. Turkey is the successor state to the Ottoman Empire. Thus my description "Turks".

A Muslim convert in Bangla has no rights, claims even indirect. All I see here is somebody with deep inferiority complex of his own heritage pathetically rubbing himself off by drawing vicarious pleasure from a distant land and even more distant peoples.

Nothing more, nothing less.

I want to know ur view about 1400 centuries khilafah world. would u tell me plz?

 

[WaLeEdK2]

The Khilafah should of never been taken out of Arabia. The ottomans blundered. The Khilafah movement in Pakistan was a huge threat to the ones wanting to destroy the Khilafah as the Muslims in the Indian subcontinent were and by many standards today are the most influential Muslims community in the world. Their victory did not come without cost, as a result of that cost Pakistan was created.

"The wars of the crusaders are now complete." General Allenby, 1917 Jerusalem. They've been after Islam for the longest time and still are today.

 

[Major d1]

I know. Get three Muslims together. Two of them decalre the third 'khilafah' and bob's your uncle. Oh by the way he might have been Sultan of large part of the world but most definitely not Bangla. It was beholden to the King Emperor of British Empire.

And ask the successors of the Ottoman Empire today if they want the 'khilafah' back. There are lots of Turks from Istanbul here, vast majority will emphatically say

Get tree muslism together ?

Do u know ottoman sultan sent ikhtiyar uddin to conquer Bengal? Its not a kingship theory . its all about prophethood method.

Ottoman khilafah not only for ottomans, now its demand for 1.8 billion of muslims. as like u live in UK and talking about khilafah as well as From Uk i am also demanding for khilafah. But Democratic world for these ideological clash can;t let it happen to soon.

Tree muslims means jammat , not khilafah.

The Khilafah should of never been taken out of Arabia. The ottomans blundered. The Khilafah movement in Pakistan was a huge threat to the ones wanting to destroy the Khilafah as the Muslims in the Indian subcontinent were and by many standards today are the most influential Muslims community in the world. Their victory did not come without cost, as a result of that cost Pakistan was created.

"The wars of the crusaders are now complete." General Allenby, 1917 Jerusalem. They've been after Islam for the longest time and still are today.

When bush attacked iraq he said and foreign minister said cursed still now going on. I had a video. i wish i could watch u .

There was many more greater Sultan's than Abulhamid II. He lost a lot of land as Sultan thus I don't count him as a great Sultan.

After the destruction of khilafah, now muslims are divided into 57 countries while they were together.

 

[bluesky]

I agree. However we live in 2016. Words and terms have to be translated/transferred to the reality we live in today, which is nation states.

Primary proof of my contention? Today the legatee of the Ottoman Empire is Turkey. Primary assets, intangible and tangible were inheritated by the Turkish Republic. Turkey is the successor state to the Ottoman Empire. Thus my description "Turks".

A Muslim convert in Bangla has no rights, claims even indirect. All I see here is somebody with deep inferiority complex of his own heritage pathetically rubbing himself off by drawing vicarious pleasure from a distant land and even more distant peoples. Nothing more, nothing less.

You are completely wrong in your assessment of history. History must be read and discussed in its proper perspective and not in today's political divisions among the Muslims. Why are you talking about Muslim converts in Bangla? Why do not you also speak of Pathan converts or Punjabi converts as well? All the Muslim forefathers of us were converts. Any objection to my statement?

You are a racist, may be a racist Pathan supremacist, but do not indulge in vomiting your ignorance when it is history. When the Pathans and Muslim Punjabis were still sleeping in ignorance, the Muslims of Bengal initiated the 'Khelafat Movement' in the British India. Respect our contribution also to the 'Pakistan Movement.'