KGB RAW ISI

[SekrutYakhni]

There is a lot of discussion regarding Russian and Indian alliance. However, I have not seen any discussion regarding KGB and RAW.
Please shed some light on this issue..

and I personally think ISI somehow has some links with KGB as in that world doors are not closed even with the enemies...some sort of links are maintained for worst scenarios...

What kind of double games are being played between ISI, RAW, KGB if any...

 

[kashith]

There is a lot of discussion regarding Russian and Indian alliance. However, I have not seen any discussion regarding KGB and RAW.
Please shed some light on this issue..

and I personally think ISI somehow has some links with KGB as in that world doors are not closed even with the enemies...some sort of links are maintained for worst scenarios...

What kind of double games are being played between ISI, RAW, KGB if any...

ISI had burnt its bridges with KGB in 80s.I dont think KGB would have been siding with ISI in WOT or against India.There was a saying in spy circles that Delhi is the extension of Moscow for KGB.They have one of the largest consulates in India

 

[SekrutYakhni]

Bridges are burned but not completely destroyed!
Soviets coming to Afghanistan and U.S. got panicked…. is a complete mystery!

Some circles suggest that Pakistan used U.S. to defeat USSR and U.S. got benefit from that...but there are whole lot of other reasons attached!

Hitler attacking Russia.....many fronts were open simultaneously…

Support from the U.S. to USSR to defeat Germany and afterwards Cold War…

These are not as simples as presented by the media…

There are limited links between Russia and Pakistan….not the ones mentioned in the media…

 

[SekrutYakhni]

There is a saying in the "world"

Never trust anyone..

Do you really think Moscow trusts Delhi as a blind cow?
They have good relations but the friends can/are changed overtime..

Russia is benefiting from India...

Just saying.... India has to be more cautious..

I "guarantee" you Moscow will not be the same with you guys after 2017....

 

[Red Dwarf]

There is a saying in the "world"

Never trust anyone..

Do you really think Moscow trusts Delhi as a blind cow?
They have good relations but the friends can/are changed overtime..

Russia is benefiting from India...

Just saying.... India has to be more cautious..

I "guarantee" you Moscow will not be the same with you guys after 2017....

Why this year is special ?.

 

[UchihaCG]

There is a saying in the "world"

Never trust anyone..

Do you really think Moscow trusts Delhi as a blind cow?
They have good relations but the friends can/are changed overtime..

Russia is benefiting from India...

Just saying.... India has to be more cautious..

I "guarantee" you Moscow will not be the same with you guys after 2017....

Do you think Russia's allied with India so that it won't benefit then? Yes, Russia benefits. So does India. Without the MKI what is India? Half our defense equip is from Russia. If it wasn't for Russian equipment. We would've been scre#wed in 1971.

India is also benefiting stupid.

Who are you to say Russia will not be the same with India?
Have you seen that our president visited Russia 2 times in 2009. Our prime minister another 3 times. Their president came over for Russia in India. If they just want ECONOMIC ties with us, they wouldn't invite us for Month of India in Russia. They have no reason to build us nuclear power plants. They're doing it to built trust and a relationship. And OFCOURSE they wouldn't do it for free.



Keep dreaming.

 

[SekrutYakhni]

Do you think Russia's allied with India so that it won't benefit then? Yes, Russia benefits. So does India. Without the MKI what is India? Half our defense equip is from Russia. If it wasn't for Russian equipment. We would've been scre#wed in 1971.

India is also benefiting stupid.

Who are you to say Russia will not be the same with India?
Have you seen that our president visited Russia 2 times in 2009. Our prime minister another 3 times. Their president came over for Russia in India. If they just want ECONOMIC ties with us, they wouldn't invite us for Month of India in Russia. They have no reason to build us nuclear power plants. They're doing it to built trust and a relationship. And OFCOURSE they wouldn't do it for free.



Keep dreaming.

Hey first I will complain to Mod about you..

Why do you guys always hack threads??

It was a decent thread with personal opinions...
Who are you to say me stupid?

You think Russia is blind when you guys go to the West and ask them toys?

Boy I just said it is a personal opinion and it will be true!
Just wait for several more years..

Russia is getting money from you guys....
It is all about money and the countries who offer more money are "timely" friends...
Russia deceived many of its friends...
History is in front of you dear

Do not s**** this thread..
Decent posts or go away...

 

[SekrutYakhni]

Let me tell you something!

The way International Games are being played..it is not a good sign...

East Pakistan got independence from West Pakistan...

Yeah I agree the problems were the different...

but don't sing Russian songs too much in Delhi..

and I think your Indian Brass is going to the west and Russia because they realize...

Friends can be enemies...
Enemies can be friends...

History is in front of you...
I am saying nothing new!

 

[weaponx]

There is a saying in the "world"

Never trust anyone..

Do you really think Moscow trusts Delhi as a blind cow?
They have good relations but the friends can/are changed overtime..

Russia is benefiting from India...

Just saying.... India has to be more cautious..

I "guarantee" you Moscow will not be the same with you guys after 2017....

"Do you really think Beijing trusts Islamabad as a blind cow?
They have good relations but the friends can/are changed overtime..

China is benefiting from Pakistan...

Just saying.... Pakistan has to be more cautious.."

See the same can be said about u and china...

wait now u will say ur friends are genuine and india's are money minded....

 

[SekrutYakhni]

"Do you really think Beijing trusts Islamabad as a blind cow?
They have good relations but the friends can/are changed overtime..

China is benefiting from Pakistan...

Just saying.... Pakistan has to be more cautious.."

See the same can be said about u and china...

wait now u will say ur friends are genuine and india's are money minded....

Indeed!
The same can be said to Pakistan and China!

but one could argue your statement in this way..

India pays a lot more for the toys to Russia than Pakistan does to China...

Pakistan gets most of the toys on credit whereas India affords to pay most of it upfront!

Relation is different here...

If India says to Russia that they cannot afford to buy toys and give us credit like China does to Pakistan...what do you think will happen..

anyways...

 

[Patriotic_Pakistani]

hey UchihaCG...dude no cursing around..respect the rules of the forum..n who r u to call him a stupid.....dont mess around n just stick to the topic

 

[blackbriar]

Indeed!
The same can be said to Pakistan and China!

but one could argue your statement in this way..

India pays a lot more for the toys to Russia than Pakistan does to China...

Pakistan gets most of the toys on credit whereas India affords to pay most of it upfront!

Relation is different here...

If India says to Russia that they cannot afford to buy toys and give us credit like China does to Pakistan...what do you think will happen..

anyways...

yeah that is because we have the money and u dont.we had a large credit line with moscow during the 70's and 80's,now we dont need a credit line cus we have a huge forex res.

 

[kashith]

Bridges are burned but not completely destroyed!
Soviets coming to Afghanistan and U.S. got panicked…. is a complete mystery!

Some circles suggest that Pakistan used U.S. to defeat USSR and U.S. got benefit from that...but there are whole lot of other reasons attached!

Hitler attacking Russia.....many fronts were open simultaneously…

Support from the U.S. to USSR to defeat Germany and afterwards Cold War…

These are not as simples as presented by the media…

There are limited links between Russia and Pakistan….not the ones mentioned in the media…

So Russia should cooperate with Pakistan?Ivan knows pakistan trained chechens...They would be among the first one if a chance comes to strike the training areas in NWFP

 

[SekrutYakhni]

So Russia should cooperate with Pakistan?Ivan knows pakistan trained chechens...They would be among the first one if a chance comes to strike the training areas in NWFP

Certainly possible!

India has good relations with Russia not the best ones..
Chinese and Russian relations are different..

Russia is more dependent on China than China dependent on Russia.
India is more dependent on Russia than Russia with India...

I am not saying Russia will help Pakistan incase of war with India...
Its jut like fooling myself..

I know if you guys attack Russia will help you..

BUT

You guys fail to understand the scenario after 5 to 7 years..
You guys do not know anything about HIS THE CREATORS knowledge..

The reason West is the god is because their policies are consistently achieving their goals...
Once they are hooked they will know the smell of loosing as Russia did after Soviet Union's crash...
The International game is changing to an alarming situation. Central Asia will be the goal this time but this time West will loose...
Mark my words..
I have some knowledge of what U.S. DAD told me...

This time India will go in the West block whereas Pakistan will be with China thus getting support from Russia...big story...

anyways...

All I am saying is wait and watch..
dont yak...


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[yosipanji]

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