Kashmiri students protest at raising of Indian flag at film shoot

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Unless


Why not first respect Balochi peoples wishes before teaching us Indians.

"This Is Balochistan; Not Pakistan" - Woman Tells BBC Reporter

A turd tht doesnt know the difference between "Baluch" and "Balochi" knows more abt Baluchistan than
Pakistanis..


P.S: Troll view to whole video.

 

[Jade]

A turd tht doesnt know the difference between "Baluch" and "Balochi" knows more abt Baluchistan than
Pakistanis..


P.S: Troll view to whole video.

It shows that Indians don't interfere in Baluchistan as some Pakistanis claim. We know zilch about Baluchistan. The movement is indigenous.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

It shows that Indians don't interfere in Baluchistan as some Pakistanis claim. We know zilch about Baluchistan. The movement is indigenous.

lol.. u know zilch abt baluchistan because ur one of those NRI trolls... and there is no "indigenous" movement... except ur brain farts at work..

Now get back to the topic..

This protest is just another proof how much Kashmiris like india and view it as an oppressor ... Insulting indian national anthem,protesting at the raising of indian flag at the universities of IOK... just show you the mirror reality..

 

[Jade]

lol.. u know zilch abt baluchistan because ur one of those NRI trolls... and there is no "indigenous" movement... except ur brain farts at work..

Now get back to the topic..

This protest is just another proof how much Kashmiris like india and view it as an oppressor ... Insulting indian national anthem,protesting at the raising of indian flag at the universities of IOK... just show you the mirror reality..

I don't expect a Pakistani to say that Baluachi movement in indigenous. Watch the video before you brain fart.

As on Kashmir...I am saying practise before you preach.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I don't expect a Pakistani to say that Baluachi movement in indigenous. Watch the video before you brain fart.

DH .. atleast spell Baluch right..

As for me a Pakistan Baluch.. i know abt my country much more than some low life troll sitting in EU..

As on Kashmir...I am saying practise before you preach.

LMAO... IOK is disputed territory... and the Kashmiris dnt even give a ... abt india.. which is pretty evident... isnt it?

Now go cry me a river..

 

[bronxbull]

Kashmiris were fighting against military. If Pundits were supporting Indian Military then Kashmiris shoved them off for a reason, but, it is all claim of India and not verified by any foreign body and you know why? Because Kashmir is inaccessible to International Media since well over two decades and special information curbing laws were enforced in the Valley which were only applied in Jammu and Kashmir. I see "a few" miscreants gave India an unimaginable pain, if they were actually a "a few".

The military came in after the pandits got slaughtered,no Muslim leader in kashmir has the balls to speak openly about the pandit massacre because they were all guilty.

If India was truly the oppressor,UN or the west would have intervened by now.

you can believe or not believe anything,we wont let go of anything and we wont finish until we rip the hurriyat conference bone by bone.

u r back on this arguement ..forget about india or pakistan .. the fact is ur guys are inviders ..it is not about what pakistan did or didnt ..they fact is kashmiris hate u .. and poor pandits suffered bcoz the army which invided kashmir has mojority of hindus .. so the sentiments were raised against hindus .. and btw i think ur army have messed up the whole Indian occupied kashmir .. most of them just move to mdianland for better jobs and not live under indian army cerfew all the tym


sure ...then b4 giving us the advice why dnt u leave hydrabad and other states that you occupied by force ...

Hyderabad is 85% Hindu and the Army came because the pandits got massacred,you want to blame someone,blame hamid gul and his hurriyat chamchas.

humein to badla lena hi lena.

 

[Jade]

DH .. atleast spell Baluch right..

As for me a Pakistan Baluch.. i know abt my country much more than some low life troll sitting in EU..




LMAO... IOK is disputed territory... and the Kashmiris dnt even give a ... abt india.. which is pretty evident... isnt it?

Now go cry me a river..

You may be a anomaly. There is a movement for freedom in Baluchistan. There is US senate resolution calling for right to self-determination in Baluchistan

Balochistan: The State Versus the Nation - Carnegie Endowment for International Peace

Give right to self-determination in Baluchistan before you preach us India on Kashmir

Now go cry me a river..

 

[bronxbull]

"A few of them" . your "Red Corridor" is a much greater and active threat comparatively . And Kashmir will be the "reason" for sinking of whole of your federation . You guys need to act smart (something totally unexpected though)




Its not true . We did not "Instigate" these movements . Blaming Pakistan for your own failures is not going to help you .

Our red corridor is nothing compared to what happens in your biggest city karachi.

"we can resolve it"

Thats the problem dopey you cant resolve it...

The Kashmiri people are not like you we dont share anything with Hindu's that we would want to be part of a black culturally different India

Add to this 50 years of oppression and you have got a population that just isnt indian


your obsession with occupying the land of the kashmiri's has held the sub continent on a knife edge for over half a century

you dont have a choice sweetheart,Take the indian passport or die.

Balochistan issue is about money & autonomy nothing about independence(except BLA terrorists backed by RAW terrorists via Afghanistan).



Nawab Bugti never backed independence but loved Pakistan, says Shahzain - Baltimore Foreign Policy | Examiner.com



If Pakistanis had wait for more than 100 years during British occupation then what is 64 years? No matter what you think or believe but Pakistan will never back off from it's stance on IOK/Maqbooza Kashmir.

goodluck,waise tumhare paani ka nal hamare paas hain.

Guys understand one thing first.

Nobody ll get Kashmir for you and nobody ll interfere,not even China.

Himmat hain toh koshish kar lo.

You cant be a hindu by blood idiot,

Hinduism is a abomination monkey gods, lingam worship, blue gods, dracula gods

alhamdulilla we have left this paganism and jahilat for faith in the one true God..

We are Muslims, we dont want anything to do with the low life skinny black hindu's


We in Kashmir are completley different to the hindu's any fool with eyes can simply take a look at a kashmiri and the average hindu and notice the difference right away.

We match the people of Northern Pakistan is anything else

toh wahin chale jaa aur skardu mein baitke jhak maarle.

It means even more to the kashmiri's living in Kashmir that they have to deal with foreign looking kala hindu's who dont share their religion or culture....

Kashmir can be a pit of money for india but nothing will change the fact that kashmiri's want their land to be free of indian controle, the moment the indian army is removed the kashmiris will throw out india. this is occupation by force not by choice




Take a look at us kashmiri's, look how different we look compared to the average indian.

We dont share looks, faith, culture combine that with decades of abuses and you will never get a time when the kashmiri people will not hate hindus or india as a result their desire to be free from this foreign controle will not die down, it will not go away

We dont want anything to do with hindus and india and you need to get that through your heads, we are kashmiri we live in our land in kashmir

Look at how kashmiri's react to the indian flag

If kashmiri's were so inclined to live with Hindu's they would have stayed with the pundits

This tells you all you need to know about how Kashmiri's feel about india

toh bhaag jaa hero,tumhare logon ke saat hi raho.

Kashmir may not be Afghanistan , and India may not be USSR ... But this principle is universal "You cant occupy a territory against the will of its inhabitants , indefinitely . Sooner or later , you have to quit"

The British also used to say "nothing is going to change" and "the British will rule the world for ever" , and now all they own is their original tiny island .

For you only Kashmiri Land is important , for us the kashmiri people are important as well .

India will have to give up Kashmir !! When and under what circumstances is the only question .

If it so happens that it stays like this when u pass away,please mention what is to be done to calm your angry soul?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

You may be a anomaly. There is a movement for freedom in Baluchistan. There is US senate resolution calling for right to self-determination in Baluchistan

Balochistan: The State Versus the Nation - Carnegie Endowment for International Peace

Give right to self-determination in Baluchistan before you preach us India on Kashmir

Now go cry me a river..

LOL... Nobody gives a **** abt dona the shemale .. aka ex taliban bacha...

And nor does anybody give a **** abt terrorist groups like BLA,BRA (LMAO) .. Hundreds of their own militants surrendered this year..:

700:
https://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&...xCZ7FT0CyTBOnLMA1E9S3Cw&bvm=bv.57155469,d.cGU

23 comanders:

https://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&...u0iSExqWRyQvI0_Os8wMAvQ&bvm=bv.57155469,d.cGU

70:

https://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&...uEp8IoupXO-Zpv0b2Hm_7QA&bvm=bv.57155469,d.cGU
https://www.google.com.pk/url?sa=t&...uEp8IoupXO-Zpv0b2Hm_7QA&bvm=bv.57155469,d.cGU

6 commanders:

Redirect Notice


And the list goes on and on!


WHILE KASHMIRIS REJECT INDIAN OCCUPATION.....

Yours truely,

AK Marri..

 

[M. Sarmad]

Our red corridor is nothing compared to what happens in your biggest city karachi

Naxalism - The Biggest Security Threat to India

An essay by Althea Carbon, University of Canterbury, New Zealand

India, having one of the fastest growing economies in the world, and being the most populous democratic country, has great potential to become a future superpower. However, in this increasingly globalised environment, India faces several threats to its security. The Naxalites has been identified as the biggest internal security threat to India by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. The complex and structural causes of the problem support this proposition. The Naxal movement also presents the greatest overall threat to India in the future, as it highlights various underlying weaknesses of India’s governance, political institutions and socio-economic structure. Naxalism is the biggest threat because it affects several areas including the economy, security and foreign affairs, its citizens and rule of law. Because of the multi-dimensional aspect of the Naxal problem, a three-pronged approach should be taken in dealing with the threat. It calls for a balance between military forces, social and economic development, as well as dialogue between all parties.

Background
The terms Naxalites or Maoists are used to refer to militant far-left radical Communist groups operating in India. Inspired by the doctrines of Mao Zedong, Naxalites work to overthrow the government and upper classes by violence. The Indian Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) describes the objectives of Naxalites as destroying “state legitimacy…with the ultimate object of attaining political power by violent means”. They are considered as a terrorist organisation under the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act of India (1967). The movement started in West Bengal in the early seventies but has since spread to the rural areas in central and eastern India. The MHA notes that Naxalites attach themselves to civil society and front organisations on issues such as displacement, land reforms and acquisition where they can increase their mass support.

Naxalites have been attacking police establishments and infrastructures such as public transportation, causing insecurity and instability to the area. From the period 2006-2010 alone, there were nearly 9,000 incidents with Naxalites with over 3,000 civilians killed. The Naxalites are active in approximately 40 percent of India’s geographical area. They control large portions of remote and densely forested areas and are concentrated in an area called “Red Corridor”. This area is also the tribal belt where the tension between economic development and aboriginal land rights is most apparent.

The India Home Minister P Chidambaram has declared that the security forces need to be more assertive against the Maoists. However, this is only one part of the solution. An examination of the reasons behind the Naxalite movement indicate that military force on its own will not be enough to counter India’s biggest security threat.

Causes of the Threat
The causes of the Maoist movement in India are structural. Economic, political and cultural dimensions are closely linked. The first is the economic situation which is exploited by Naxalites and their extreme left ideology. It seems much like a catch-22 situation. On the one hand, India has experienced relatively fast economic growth, which has led to increased levels of national wealth. To facilitate and continue this development, businesses need more land and natural resources such as minerals. On the other hand, this economic growth has been uneven among regions, and has widened the disparity between the rich and the poor. Proponents of these businesses argue that these regions need economic development, if they are to catch up with their richer counterparts.

The Indian aboriginals, known as adivasis, live these richly forested lands, which are wanted for development by businesses. The conflict between economic progress and aboriginal land rights continues to fuel the Naxalite’s activities. Their strongest bases are in the poorest areas of India. They are concentrated on the tribal belt such as West Bengal, Orissa, and Andhra Pradesh where locals experience forced acquisition of their land for developmental projects. Arundhati Roy, a Naxalite sympathiser said that the tribal forestlands should be called a “MoUist Corridor” instead of the “Maoist Corridor” as the people of these tribal forest ands have been wrestling with “Memorandum of Understanding (MoUs) of the mining companies. Prashant Bhushan, a civil rights lawyer noted that businesses are making adivasis go through “sham formal consultation” processes where interests of the adivasis are not sincerely considered.

Second, the alienation that is being exploited by the Maoists has a social, communal and regional dimension. The battle can also be described between India’s most neglected people and the nation’s most powerful industrial businesses. The adivasis make up about 8.4 percent of the population and live in severe poverty. They live in remote areas where government administration is weak and there is a lack of government services. These indigenous people have the lowest literacy rates in the country and highest rates of infant mortality.

Given this socio-economic alienation, it is easy to see how the Naxalite’s ideology is popular among the rural poor and indigenous tribes, and why the adivasis view the guerrillas as their “saviours”. The adivasis do not feel like they have any political power to voice their grievances legitimately, and therefore the alternative of subversive, illegal groups seem attractive.

Some argue that Naxalites are not concerned about the social or economic welfare of these people and are simply using them as a means to its end goal of seizing political power. The spread of Naxalism reflects the widespread alienation and discontentment felt by large parts of the country who are systematically marginalised. Dr. Subramanian, a former Director-General of the National Security Guard and Central Reserve Police Force notes that Naxalism exists in these tribal areas because of the dissatisfaction of the people against the government and big businesses, the terrain is suitable for guerrilla tactics, and there is no existence of a proper and effective local administration mechanism. In these areas, the conditions are conducive to warfare and extremist ideologies. Even if Naxalites are simply exploiting the adivasis’ situation for their own ends, their popularity indicates the power of the root causes to create such an environment for insecurity and violence.

Naxalite movement as the biggest threat
The Naxalite threat is the biggest security problem for India’s future as its effects are multi-layered. The Maoist movement highlights India’s interior weaknesses, which makes India also vulnerable to external threats. As part of globalisation, threats such as the Naxalite movement can no longer be viewed as simply internal as it also affects external security.

The security dangers are aptly described by a former Pakistani Director-General of the Inter-Services Intelligence and his description of India’s foreign affairs. The Director-General equated India being busy with internal security problems to having two extra Divisions in the Pakistan Army for free. A nation cannot effectively withstand threats coming from outside its country if there is instability inside it. Furthermore, globalisation has encouraged the emergence of non-state terrorist actors as well as international interference in each other’s affairs. India has been one of the victims of international and state sponsored terrorism fuelled by fundamentalist ideologies. The Pakistani support for terrorist acts within India and the Jammu and Kashmir proxy war is an example of when it is critical that national security forces focus solely on eliminating external threats.

India’s regional neighbours are also external threats. For example, in 2004, the MHA was wary of the “symbiotic relationship” between the Communist Party of Nepal and Naxal groups in India. This means having military deployed along the border. In the past, India has also been involved in territorial disputes with China such as over Aksai Chin.

Another reason why the Naxalites are the biggest threat to security is because of the way the issue affects India’s economic development. This is apparent in several ways. For example, the more the Maoists concentrate on the poor and marginalised regions of India, the more economic development (which is imperative to improving those regions’ conditions) will be hampered. Furthermore, the Naxalite rebels are no longer just focussing on remote jungles but on urban centres. Maoist leader Kishenji even declared that the group aims to establish an armed movement in Calcutta by 2011. Internal order and stability are necessary for a nation’s economic development. For India to continue being able to withstand outside security threats, it must build up its infrastructure, its defence and its people. In terms of lifting its citizens out of poverty, India has a long way to go, and continued economic growth is integral to India’s development as a strong global player. The Naxalite activities are using up scarce resources on defence and internal security when it should be spent on areas such as social development. For example in 2006, 22% of the total government expenditure is on the military, compared with a mere 1.84% of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) spent on the social sector.

The Naxalite movement is also the biggest threat to India, in terms of the effects on its citizens and what it means for democracy and rule of law. Not only has there been a great loss of life since the conflict between the guerrillas and the military, but addressing the problem through violence risks polarising people further and driving them to subservience. The guerrilla warfare is a threat not only to citizens’ lives but their properties. Too impatient and desperate to wait for government intervention, civilians such as landlords are taking matters into their own hands. As writer Navlakha noted, by portraying the Maoists as a ‘menace’ and separating the movement from socio-economic causes, it “allows the rich and poor divide to impose itself on a formal democratic structure”. Navlakha gives the example in Bihar where Naxalite groups are band under the Prevention of Terrorist Activities Act, yet a majority of the massacre were committed by landlord armies which were not considered an act of terror under the law. Such treatment for the upper class only serves to threaten the rule of law, state legitimacy and democracy as the political norm.


Military
Currently, the main instrument employed by the government to address the Naxalite threat is the increasing use of the military. While some military force is still needed to combat against the Maoist guerrillas, it should not be the only solution. By only addressing the issue by brute force, government risks alienating civilians who are caught in the middle. Coercion of the state will only encourage people to rally against it.

Governance
The growing Naxalite insurgency also reflects a flaw in the federal structure. Because law and order is seen as a state responsibility, the central government is unable to be implement a coherent national strategy to address the threat. Ganguly notes that “in the absence of a near complete breakdown of public order or without the express request of the afflicted state, the central government cannot…[intervene].” The government has the overall responsibility of mobilising development, but it cannot do so without the support of the states. The central government and the states need to cooperate together to solve the internal security threats and coordinate the implementation of this multi-dimensional approach. Both organisations must complement and support each other’s initiatives and strategies.

Conclusion
To conclude, the Naxalite problem reflects underlying issues in the Indian social, economic and political institutions which threaten to expose India to even more danger from outside forces. While the Naxalite movement is mainly an internal threat, with globalisation, external and internal security threats are inextricably linked. The complex and multi-faceted approach to solving the Naxalite issue also reflects the fact that this is the biggest menace to India’s security in the future.



This is one of the winning essays from the INDIA Future of Change Essay-Writing Contest 2010-11
as evaluated by Financial Times, the knowledge partner for the contest.

 

[American Pakistani]

goodluck,waise tumhare paani ka nal hamare paas hain.

Aur tumharay paani kay nal China kay pass hain...So? Water is a gift from God...nobody can control it...you think your india have guts to stop Pakistan's waters?

Guys understand one thing first.

Nobody ll get Kashmir for you and nobody ll interfere,not even China.

Pakistan is dealing with it very well uptill now. As i said earlier it took more than 100 years for Pakistanis to achieve freedom from Britishers whose mainland was thousands of miles away...so no matter if it takes 200 years but one day Kashmiris will get Freedom from indian occupiers...Inshallah.

You may be a anomaly. There is a movement for freedom in Baluchistan. There is US senate resolution calling for right to self-determination in Baluchistan

Balochistan: The State Versus the Nation - Carnegie Endowment for International Peace

Give right to self-determination in Baluchistan before you preach us India on Kashmir

Now go cry me a river..

Before f@rting & jumping up & down & up & down...worry about your Khalistan, Assam, Nagaland, Tripura, West Bengal, Naxals, Sikkim, Tamil addu, South Tibet & several other independence movements. Also read what Akbar Bugti's own grand son Shahzain Bugti said recently...in my post on page # 8 i posted the neutral American Baltimore source....where Shahzain Bugti cleared misconception that Bugti's are fighting for independence, they are fighting for more Royalties, Money & Autonomy.

BE WARNED YOUR NEXT OFFTOPIC TROLL F@RTING POST ABOUT BALOCHISTAN WILL BE REPORTED. This thread is about how Kashmiris from IOK/Maqbooza Kashmir kick indian occupiers from the University when occupiers tried to hoist their flag.

 

[hussain0216]

These people don't get Muslims we keep animosities and emnities alive

We don't forget our enemies

It took over 100 years for Muslims to get Jerusalem and Palestine back

In kashmir we are the majority population

They can burn their economy try to pay us
Off but it wowon't work

The kashmiri population is Muslim hates india and identifies with Pakistan

It's only a matter of time

 

[chhota bheem]

These people don't get Muslims we keep animosities and emnities alive

We don't forget our enemies

It took over 100 years for Muslims to get Jerusalem and Palestine back

In kashmir we are the majority population

They can burn their economy try to pay us
Off but it wowon't work

The kashmiri population is Muslim hates india and identifies with Pakistan

It's only a matter of time

Thanks for representing Kashmiris(Indian)..and why are you worried about Kashmiris brother.

 

[IBRIS]

These people don't get Muslims we keep animosities and emnities alive

We don't forget our enemies

It took over 100 years for Muslims to get Jerusalem and Palestine back

In kashmir we are the majority population

They can burn their economy try to pay us
Off but it wowon't work

The kashmiri population is Muslim hates india and identifies with Pakistan

It's only a matter of time

We appericiate you give sh!t, now can we see that time that freakin matters.? waiting since decades, can also wait same amount of time. Till then you'll be dead and your generation would be deluted with social media and dancing in the rain on bollywood music.

 

[Chronos]

lol.. u know zilch abt baluchistan because ur one of those NRI trolls... and there is no "indigenous" movement... except ur brain farts at work..

Now get back to the topic..

This protest is just another proof how much Kashmiris like india and view it as an oppressor ... Insulting indian national anthem,protesting at the raising of indian flag at the universities of IOK... just show you the mirror reality..

If you have the balls, instead of whining on the Internet, do something about it.

Shooting fourteen year old girls in the face and then accusing her of western CIA involvement doesn't count

These people don't get Muslims we keep animosities and emnities alive

We don't forget our enemies

It took over 100 years for Muslims to get Jerusalem and Palestine back

In kashmir we are the majority population

They can burn their economy try to pay us
Off but it wowon't work

The kashmiri population is Muslim hates india and identifies with Pakistan

It's only a matter of time

It took six days for Israel to kick the butts of the so called Islamic protectors of middle east.

You lost. I am sorry your plan on massacring innocents didn't work out. Now drag yourself to the 21st century please