Kashmiri Pandits: Why We Never Fled Kashmir

[Kashmiri Nationalist]

Really? But then the IOA doesn't show that doesn't it? That's what matters. Now digging up graves of false myths just t justify your separatist mindset on religious grounds (last minute "secularism"), doesn't really change the realities.



As a state, they have the freedom to live anywhere in Kashmir as they want when they want. There is no ghettoization as even in Ladakh Muslims are allowed to live. But this was not the case in the valley from where they escaped marginally with their lives.



But you doesn't mean you my dear friend, it means your types. What's personal in that?



The terms are discussed in more than just PDF and IDF mate. They've been discussed in a lot of other forums including neutral European and forums like MP as well. Somehow the terms look very different from here that needed removal of Pakistanis and Chinese from the state as well to carry out whatever you're calling.

Plus the violence in the valley due to jihad against my people, nullified any justification and resulted simply in demographic cleansing to justify the separatism.

The signing of the IOA was more so "Sign it, or we'll let the tribals do what they want with you", I'm sure you'd logically agree. The Maharaja also wished for the wishes of his people to be respected by India, which hasn't happened yet, has it?

Of course they do, that wasn't the point. The point was that there's near-no militancy in Ladakh so the massacres you project are non-existant and again, a figment of your imagination.

My types includes myself, I find that personnel. Perhaps you should stick to the debates on hand, logically?

Of course they've been discussed, I wasn't questioning that; but then again, if you actually read my posts, you'd get the gist of what I'm saying.

I'll leave that to the UN, to which India is a member of and hasn't fulfilled their obligations yet.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

''jihad'' only came when indian CPRF utilized a policy of shoot first, ask questions later; when they set up checkpoints needlessly and imposed over normally peaceful people

a natural reaction, really....in fact, a justified one.

 

[IndianArmy]

''jihad'' only came when indian CPRF utilized a policy of shoot first, ask questions later; when they set up checkpoints needlessly and imposed over normally peaceful people

a natural reaction, really....in fact, a justified one.

Shoot first, Ask Question later policy. Well I am not sure in how you go personally ask first and through fierce conversation get a hnit of his character then load your gun and shoot..

Jokes apart. Civilian casualty is not justifiable no where in the world, but tell me one country which fights a war within punishes its Armed forces for the violation of Fourth Geneva Convention especially Article 49-56? I take pride in saying if India has found it is a made up thing then the soldier undegoes court martial

 

[IndianArmy]

Self delete

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

honest question --if somebody killed your brother or raped your sister or daughter -- and you knew you'd never see justice, what would your reaction be? wouldnt you also possibly resort to violence in the interests of some kind of ''retribution'' ?

as for civilian deaths -- yes they are not acceptable. Religious beliefs or any of that kind of stuff does not matter here.

 

[Kashmiri Nationalist]

Shoot first, Ask Question later policy. Well I am not sure in how you go personally ask first and through fierce conversation get a hnit of his character then load your gun and shoot..

Jokes apart. Civilian casualty is not justifiable no where in the world, but tell me one country which fights a war within punishes its Armed forces for the violation of Fourth Geneva Convention especially Article 49-56? I take pride in saying if India has found it is a made up thing then the soldier undegoes court martial

Nope, India hasn't found it, I have still to see the war criminals (this is really a nice word to describe them, I have more accurate ones, but I'm sure Webby wouldn't like them) for Kanun Poshpura to be found and tried; among other massacres. There's mass graves found every so often, I don't see anybody being held account for them except these imaginary "terroists".

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

if the british polls are to be believed, majority of Kashmiris in iOK would prefer accession to hindustan rather than Pakistan

so are indians scared of holding a referendum? What do they have to lose?

 

[KS]

if the british polls are to be believed, majority of Kashmiris in iOK would prefer accession to hindustan rather than Pakistan

so are indians scared of holding a referendum? What do they have to lose?

Well when so many problems like inflation, corruption are facing the nation you seriously cant expect to hoild humongous exercises like referendums to soothe anyone's ego..right ? We all have better things to do.