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Kashmiri Pandits: Victims or Opportunistic Exploiters?

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Original Thread

- Dogra rule followed the Sikh rule after 1846 to 1947, both these were marked by a brutal exploitation of Kashmiri muslims and a privileged life of Kashmiri pandits Muslims were taxed unfairly and often harassed.

- The dogra ruler Ranbir singh drowned famine stricken Muslims by drowning them, Pandits benefitted from this famine as we will see in this thread

- Begar :- A system of slavery which forced muslims to often sacrifice their lives in extremely harsh climates and terrains with almost no renumeration Those who protested got killed and many muslims had to forcefully leave Kashmir, which benefitted Pandit landlords

- Pandits often got exemptions from cruel taxes levied on muslims and got special privileges

- Muslims were banned from cow slaughter, the rulers interfered in muslim practices and killed them without a justifiable reason, this is seen in modern hindutva as well

- Muslim cultivators had been pressed down to the status of coolies, Pandits devised various tactics to enhance their privileges The entire revenue system was Kashmiri pandits

- A shrewd Pandit showed no mercy to Muslims during the famine in 1877-79, almost no Pandit lost his life, these oppressors humiliated cultivators who could not pay their revenues

- The communo-fascist rule of Pandits speculated high revenues from Muslims but spared their kin, food control system meant no markets existed as such

- As I said before, the Begar slavery made muslims fear for their lives. The cruel Pandits made big profits from this misery and exploitation of muslims

- Muslim cultivators were forced to pay Rasum to Pandits and also to Dharmarth trust fund

- Chakdari system was another system by which Pandits acquired vast amounts of land

- When Kashmiri pandits had to compete with Muslims (who organized themselves after Sheikh Abdullah) and Punjabi hindus, they started waging ideological war against both of them, calling themselves victims of Muslims AKA playing the Brahminical victim card

- When Muslims demanded reservations for their backwardness, the Pandits called it communalism Brahmins do this everywhere, for us Brahmins nationalism only means that which benefits us, they say all justice to the marginalized is communal politics, but not their own politics

- Kashmiri pandits started forging history as their dominance was questioned by the National conference, although Abdullah gave them 10% reservation, they deemed him a communal politician Pandits delegitimized Sheikh Abdullah infront of Mirzai by calling him an Ahmaddiya qadiani

- They focused on his Ahmaddiya identity to get Muslims to stop supporting him, Kashmiri muslims even during their protests againsts dogras PROTECTED the Pandits, but privilege is a strong drug for them

- Sanghis will tell you Kashmiri movement is communal, that is fake, while Abdullah asserted his Muslim identity against oppression, he always wanted non muslim in the National conference


@Maula Jatt @Drexluddin Khan Spiveyzai @Areesh @M. Sarmad @AlKardai @AA_ @Sayfullah @hatehs @Great Janjua @Tamerlane

This post is a bit long, but you can read the thread here

 
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Original Thread

- Dogra rule followed the Sikh rule after 1846 to 1947, both these were marked by a brutal exploitation of Kashmiri muslims and a privileged life of Kashmiri pandits Muslims were taxed unfairly and often harassed.

- The dogra ruler Ranbir singh drowned famine stricken Muslims by drowning them, Pandits benefitted from this famine as we will see in this thread

- Begar :- A system of slavery which forced muslims to often sacrifice their lives in extremely harsh climates and terrains with almost no renumeration Those who protested got killed and many muslims had to forcefully leave Kashmir, which benefitted Pandit landlords

- Pandits often got exemptions from cruel taxes levied on muslims and got special privileges

- Muslims were banned from cow slaughter, the rulers interfered in muslim practices and killed them without a justifiable reason, this is seen in modern hindutva as well

- Muslim cultivators had been pressed down to the status of coolies, Pandits devised various tactics to enhance their privileges The entire revenue system was Kashmiri pandits

- A shrewd Pandit showed no mercy to Muslims during the famine in 1877-79, almost no Pandit lost his life, these oppressors humiliated cultivators who could not pay their revenues

- The communo-fascist rule of Pandits speculated high revenues from Muslims but spared their kin, food control system meant no markets existed as such

- As I said before, the Begar slavery made muslims fear for their lives. The cruel Pandits made big profits from this misery and exploitation of muslims

- Muslim cultivators were forced to pay Rasum to Pandits and also to Dharmarth trust fund

- Chakdari system was another system by which Pandits acquired vast amounts of land

- When Kashmiri pandits had to compete with Muslims (who organized themselves after Sheikh Abdullah) and Punjabi hindus, they started waging ideological war against both of them, calling themselves victims of Muslims AKA playing the Brahminical victim card

- When Muslims demanded reservations for their backwardness, the Pandits called it communalism Brahmins do this everywhere, for us Brahmins nationalism only means that which benefits us, they say all justice to the marginalized is communal politics, but not their own politics

- Kashmiri pandits started forging history as their dominance was questioned by the National conference, although Abdullah gave them 10% reservation, they deemed him a communal politician Pandits delegitimized Sheikh Abdullah infront of Mirzai by calling him an Ahmaddiya qadiani

- They focused on his Ahmaddiya identity to get Muslims to stop supporting him, Kashmiri muslims even during their protests againsts dogras PROTECTED the Pandits, but privilege is a strong drug for them

- Sanghis will tell you Kashmiri movement is communal, that is fake, while Abdullah asserted his Muslim identity against oppression, he always wanted non muslim in the National conference


@Maula Jatt @Drexluddin Khan Spiveyzai @Areesh @M. Sarmad @AlKardai @AA_ @Sayfullah @hatehs @Great Janjua @Tamerlane

This post is a bit long, but you can read the thread here

This is a horribly unfair characterisation of the Kashmiri Pandit, and equates failure to be oppressed with an oppressive role.

Please, this is a childish and click-bait kind of proposition. Surely you can do better.

When Kashmiri pandits had to compete with Muslims (who organized themselves after Sheikh Abdullah) and Punjabi hindus, they started waging ideological war against both of them, calling themselves victims of Muslims AKA playing the Brahminical victim card
False accusation #1.
 
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When Kashmiri pandits had to compete with Muslims (who organized themselves after Sheikh Abdullah) and Punjabi hindus, they started waging ideological war against both of them, calling themselves victims of Muslims AKA playing the Brahminical victim card
False accusation #1.
When Muslims demanded reservations for their backwardness, the Pandits called it communalism Brahmins do this everywhere, for us Brahmins nationalism only means that which benefits us, they say all justice to the marginalized is communal politics, but not their own politics
False accusation #2.

Kashmiri pandits started forging history as their dominance was questioned by the National conference, although Abdullah gave them 10% reservation, they deemed him a communal politician Pandits delegitimized Sheikh Abdullah infront of Mirzai by calling him an Ahmaddiya qadiani
False accusation #3.

They focused on his Ahmaddiya identity to get Muslims to stop supporting him, Kashmiri muslims even during their protests againsts dogras PROTECTED the Pandits, but privilege is a strong drug for them
False accusation #4.

Sanghis will tell you Kashmiri movement is communal, that is fake, while Abdullah asserted his Muslim identity against oppression, he always wanted non muslim in the National conference
Misplaced accusation, directed at Sanghis, as if all Pandits are Sanghis, and all Sanghis are Pandits.

Indians are great at propoganda, especially when it comes to turning themselves into victims

This allows them to make sense of thier own malicious behavior as a society
Congratulations on your ability to construct a sentence.

Now for the difficult part - saying something fact based and evidence based, rather than an airy-fairy, smug, self-serving statement.
 
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False accusation #1.

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False accusation #2.

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False accusation #3.

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False accusation #4.

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False accusation #1.

False accusation #2.


False accusation #3.


False accusation #4.


Misplaced accusation, directed at Sanghis, as if all Pandits are Sanghis, and all Sanghis are Pandits.


Congratulations on your ability to construct a sentence.

Now for the difficult part - saying something fact based and evidence based, rather than an airy-fairy, smug, self-serving statement.
Okay buddy
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Your morally bankrupt society's inspiration
 
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Indians are great at propoganda, especially when it comes to turning themselves into victims

This allows them to make sense of thier own malicious behavior as a society
Congratulations on your ability to construct a sentence.

Now for the difficult part - saying something fact based and evidence based, rather than an airy-fairy, smug, self-serving statement.
Okay buddy
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Your morally bankrupt society's inspiration
As silly a riposte as the rest. It seems that you want a detailed answer to that scurrilous collection of nonsense. You will get one. Await it.

Morally bankrupt society, indeed. The sheer breathtaking impertinence takes my breath away.
 
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Original Thread

- Dogra rule followed the Sikh rule after 1846 to 1947, both these were marked by a brutal exploitation of Kashmiri muslims and a privileged life of Kashmiri pandits Muslims were taxed unfairly and often harassed.

- The dogra ruler Ranbir singh drowned famine stricken Muslims by drowning them, Pandits benefitted from this famine as we will see in this thread

- Begar :- A system of slavery which forced muslims to often sacrifice their lives in extremely harsh climates and terrains with almost no renumeration Those who protested got killed and many muslims had to forcefully leave Kashmir, which benefitted Pandit landlords

- Pandits often got exemptions from cruel taxes levied on muslims and got special privileges

- Muslims were banned from cow slaughter, the rulers interfered in muslim practices and killed them without a justifiable reason, this is seen in modern hindutva as well

- Muslim cultivators had been pressed down to the status of coolies, Pandits devised various tactics to enhance their privileges The entire revenue system was Kashmiri pandits

- A shrewd Pandit showed no mercy to Muslims during the famine in 1877-79, almost no Pandit lost his life, these oppressors humiliated cultivators who could not pay their revenues

- The communo-fascist rule of Pandits speculated high revenues from Muslims but spared their kin, food control system meant no markets existed as such

- As I said before, the Begar slavery made muslims fear for their lives. The cruel Pandits made big profits from this misery and exploitation of muslims

- Muslim cultivators were forced to pay Rasum to Pandits and also to Dharmarth trust fund

- Chakdari system was another system by which Pandits acquired vast amounts of land

- When Kashmiri pandits had to compete with Muslims (who organized themselves after Sheikh Abdullah) and Punjabi hindus, they started waging ideological war against both of them, calling themselves victims of Muslims AKA playing the Brahminical victim card

- When Muslims demanded reservations for their backwardness, the Pandits called it communalism Brahmins do this everywhere, for us Brahmins nationalism only means that which benefits us, they say all justice to the marginalized is communal politics, but not their own politics

- Kashmiri pandits started forging history as their dominance was questioned by the National conference, although Abdullah gave them 10% reservation, they deemed him a communal politician Pandits delegitimized Sheikh Abdullah infront of Mirzai by calling him an Ahmaddiya qadiani

- They focused on his Ahmaddiya identity to get Muslims to stop supporting him, Kashmiri muslims even during their protests againsts dogras PROTECTED the Pandits, but privilege is a strong drug for them

- Sanghis will tell you Kashmiri movement is communal, that is fake, while Abdullah asserted his Muslim identity against oppression, he always wanted non muslim in the National conference


@Maula Jatt @Drexluddin Khan Spiveyzai @Areesh @M. Sarmad @AlKardai @AA_ @Sayfullah @hatehs @Great Janjua @Tamerlane

This post is a bit long, but you can read the thread here


I believe that making broad generalizations about entire communities as inherently good or evil is an oversimplified and biased interpretation of events and history. Different communities have experienced various advantages or disadvantages over different periods of time, depending on their relationship with the ruling class. Kashmiri Pandits, for instance, have had their own share of ups and downs. They generally faced persecution during the rule of Muslim leaders in the valley but were favored when Hindus held power. At times, they were the oppressed, while at other times, they collaborated with the oppressors due to perceived opportunities. Similar dynamics can be observed with Muslim communities in northern India, who were generally favored during the rule of Muslim rulers in Delhi, and vice versa.

Regarding the mass exodus of Hindu Pandits from the predominantly Muslim Kashmir valley in the 1990s, the debate revolves around whether the exodus was orchestrated, facilitated, or politically engineered by Hindu authorities. Regardless of the origins and motivations behind it, it is undeniable that the Pandits themselves were victims, forced to leave their homes.
 
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