These are your views and sentiments and I will not belittle them by contradicting those ...
So you believe that either the videos are doctored or that that was somewhere in Pakistan. Two words, Al Jazeera.
Heck, even The Hindu reported of large-scale protests. Where have you been for the past week?
Actually this is a constitutional logic. In India, a state does not belong to the people living in that state but to the whole nation. If someone has to vote on Kashmir's status, it will have to be the whole country and not a single state though the result of both elections will be the same. You get moved by selective videos on you tube but I rather take my cues from a > 60% polling in national and state elections in J&K. And before someone comes up with fudged numbers defence, let me say that the same will then appliy to the videos that touched your heart..
60% turnout does not ratify your occupation (though it would be a miracle if 60% is even close to reality), I simply don't understand that logic. When you have someone on the ground and are punching their face in, they'll take any opportunity to get you off of them. The fact that they were forced to choose between a rock and a hard place, and chose the lesser of the two evils, does not endorse your actions there.
Secondly, in order for some state to be a part of your nation, the people must first recognize that. The people of Kashmir will get what they want simply because they have never accepted your occupation (at least in the Valley and parts of Ladakh). So no, the rest of India doesn't get to vote on their fate, they do, like they were promised in 1948.
Lastly, unlike some of your countrymen (and most likely you as well), my sources are diverse. I don't simply buy the diatribe sold to me through my TV or computer, I spend hours and hours researching and actually talking with people from that area (surprise surprise). I'm the first to admit our mistakes, and I'm the first to give you guys the benefit of the doubt in most cases. However, in the case of Kashmir, there is no doubt.
100 years is nothing, you can wait a 1000 and I ssure you that it will not happen.
You sound so very desperate to deny a people its rights to determine its own fate. Then you wonder why they want to separate. Amazing.
There are only 2 parties to this.. India and Pakistan. Dont kid yourself sir by treating Pakistan Occupied Kashmir and the Indian state of J&K as independent parties. They are not no matter how much some one keeps repeating it.
So essentially what you're saying is that the people who are being victimized by India should have no say whatsoever in determining their own future? Seriously, it's no mystery why they throw stones at your soldiers.
Really, do you think the GoP gives 2 hoots about people of Kashmir (on either side). They are just being used a pawns to retaliate against 1971
No, wrong. Pakistan has been voicing its concerns over Kashmiris since 1947. There was an entire war fought on this subject in 1965, which incidentally, arrived before 1971. If anything, your actions in 71 were a retaliation for our support of Kashmiris. Pathetic, probably hard to swallow, but true nonetheless.
What you meant to say is that the GoI doesn't give 2 hoots about the people of Kashmit. Hey, you're preaching the choir.
Well, you returned the favor in 1998 (kargil). But 2 key differences.
1. LOC was not explicitly marked in the Siachen area
2. We succeeded and you did not (pardon the tongue in cheek)
Don't apologise. We were stupid enough to believe you would honor your own promise once before, and we kept believing you (Plebiscite in Kashmir, UN Resolution 47 and then Simla Accord). Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me a third time, and I deserve to lose Siachen.
We were unsuccessful in Kargil, admittedly. However, I don't apologize for that, it showed the people of Kashmir that we still haven't given up their cause. At the very least, we accomplished to recharge the resilience of the Valley.
Dont need to express any solidarity towards people of Indian state of J&K just like we dont express any explicit solidarity towards other states of India. All of us are bound together by our nationhood.
Well, you guys aren't so we must. Someone has to stand up for them too. Bound together in nationhood is easy to say when you don't have to live in your own city as a prisoner. Unwarranted curfews, killings and whatnot are a way of life there, and all because of your blindness to their cause.
I'm trying to help the blind cross the road, but they simply don't want to. When I read posts like yours, it makes me all the more assured that my stand is the right one.
