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Fourteen killed in India Kashmir clashes

(Reuters) - Four Indian soldiers and 10 separatist guerrillas were killed in clashes in Kashmir, the highest number of people killed in firefights in 24 hours in recent months, the army said Thursday.

The new fighting comes amid Indian fears of an escalation in rebel violence in the disputed Himalayan region after a period of relative calm.

The Indian army says Pakistan-based militant groups have stepped up efforts to infiltrate the region after snow started melting on the high mountain passes.

Wednesday, four Indian soldiers and four militants were killed in a gun battle in the Rajouri district, which lies in south Kashmir near the Line of Control, a military line which divides Kashmir between India and Pakistan.

Indian army spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Biplab Nath said Thursday that "six terrorists were killed in another fierce encounter in Rajouri."

Nuclear-armed rivals India and Pakistan claim the region in full but rule in part and have fought two wars over it.

The Indian army says it has stepped up its vigil along the Line of Control to thwart infiltrations as hundreds of militants are waiting in the Pakistani part of Kashmir to enter into India.

At the weekend troops shot dead six militants as they tried to cross into India, the third such infiltration attempt to be foiled in a week, the army said.
 
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Kashmiri separatists feud for supremacy - The National Newspaper

SRINAGAR, INDIA // The Kashmiri separatist leadership is in disarray and an ongoing struggle for supremacy between factions turned uglier last month when the supporters of at least two of the major players clashed on the streets of Sopore town.

The developments come amid speculation that Saudi Arabia could assume the role of mediator between India and Pakistan, including the dispute over Kashmir.

Supporters of Syed Ali Shah Geelani, the octogenarian leader of the Islamist Tehrik-e-Hurriyat (TeH) party, allegedly set upon those of Muhammad Yasin Malik, the chairman of his faction of the Jammu Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF), on March 14 in Sopore, 50km north of the capital, Srinagar.

Mr Malik’s group had spent the day distributing cash to locals, whose houses had been damaged in previous violence between militants and the Indian army.

Analysts say the TeH viewed that as a provocative attempt by the JKLF to win support in Sopore, which is a TeH stronghold.

According to witnesses, Mr Geelani’s supporters attacked the JKLF members with knives and stones, injuring five. Locals, who said the police did not intervene, chased the attackers away. The following day JKLF members ransacked a TeH office in Srinagar in retribution.

The JKLF seeks reunification of the disputed Himalayan state, which was split between India and Pakistan in the aftermath of their first war fought in 1947-48 soon after gaining independence from Britain, and wants to make it a secular, independent country. Mr Geelani, on the other hand, vows to integrate Kashmir with Muslim Pakistan.

Amid the two sides exchanging insults and accusations, Syed Salahuddin, the Pakistan-based leader of the United Jihad Council, an alliance of militant groups, warned the leaders to either resolve their differences or quit.

“If the pro-freedom leadership doesn’t mend its ways, the people and the mujahideen will be forced to take the reins of the movement into their hands to carry it forward,” he said in a statement from Rawalpindi.

The dispute in the separatists’ camps has resurfaced at a time when Indians and Pakistanis are trying to narrow their differences on a range of issues, particularly Kashmir.

Meetings between the two countries’ foreign secretaries held at the end of February ended fruitlessly, with New Delhi continuing to publicly voice concern over Islamabad’s “inaction against perpetrators of the Mumbai attacks”.

Simultaneously, New Delhi is holding private talks with a segment of the Kashmiri politicians, whereas Pakistan has invited half a dozen separatist leaders for consultations in Islamabad in an apparent attempt to fortify their respective positions and prepare the Kashmiris to accept a prospective settlement.

The Kashmir dispute has led to two wars since 1947 and taken tens of thousands of lives, mainly during the 20-year insurgency on the Indian side of the state.

Before heading for Islamabad, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq, Kashmir’s chief Muslim cleric and leader of the Hurriyat (Freedom) Conference, an alliance of separatist parties, held talks with Saudi officials in Jeddah. His visit to Saudi Arabia came close on the heels of a visit by the Indian prime minister, Manmohan Singh, during which the country’s junior foreign minister, Shashi Tharoor, said Saudi Arabia could be a “valuable interlocutor” between India and Pakistan on the issue of Kashmir.

“We feel that Saudi Arabia of course has a long and close relationship with Pakistan but that makes Saudi Arabia an even more valuable interlocutor for us,” he was quoted by the Indian media as saying. But Mr Tharoor later clarified that he did not mean that Saudi Arabia should be a mediator between India and Pakistan.

Nevertheless, his initial remarks led to speculation in Kashmir that apart from the United States, Saudi Arabia is playing some role towards bringing the two South Asian neighbours closer, or, at least, helping them in ironing out their differences.

In any case, Mr Farooq sees a policy shift in India vis-à-vis third-party mediation in Indo-Pak dialogue.

He told the Jeddah daily Arab News, “Currently a rethink is going on in India. Given the strengthening of ties between India and the Kingdom, New Delhi would be more comfortable with Saudi mediation than any other country.”

He added that Saudi Arabia was influential not only in the Middle East but also in South Asia.

“The kingdom has a history of playing positive role in disputes, such as Afghanistan and Palestine. Kashmiris would be more than happy if the kingdom mediated on our behalf,” he said.

India has, so far, not responded to Mr Farooq’s observations although it has consistently rejected third-party mediation in the past.

Pakistan too has not dismissed his suggestion that Saudi Arabia could play a role in resolving the contentious Kashmir issue.

Apparently encouraged by the possibility of Saudi mediation, Mr Farooq is planning to send a delegation of Kashmiri leaders to Saudi Arabia within a month to hold talks with the Saudi officials.

“Already, we in the Hurriyat Conference are discussing on how to seek Saudi help … [we] will work out a concrete plan before approaching them formally,” he said.

Mr Farooq’s Hurriyat Conference called the recent attack on Yasin Malik’s supporters at Sopore “fascist”, admitting that such a behaviour on part of “certain elements” could prove detrimental to the separatists’ cause.

“The people of Kashmir are passing through the most crucial stage of the resistance movement,” said Masroor Abas, the leader of Itehad al Muslimeen, an Islamist group that is part of Mr Farooq’s Hurriyat Conference.

“Our leadership ought to rise above party politics and recoil from personal agendas. Incidents like Sopore can only leave negative hoofmarks on our cause.”
 
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Six Pakistani terrorists? Hmm. How do we know they are Pakistani? ID Cards, nametags, etc? Yes, because a terrorist would be running around with a nametag on his shirt, right?

Because a Kashmiri on the Indian side would never join a resistance force in his right mind, right?

Because LeT is apparently the only operating resistance group in the region, right?

Mr. Watali was quick to come to the conclusion that any rebel in Kashmir, is Pakistani. :rofl:

We all know Kashmir hates India, wants nothing to do with Hindu's or their country, and have been endlessly oppressed and murdered only to be blanketed by large and small scale cover-ups to hide the truth.

This report is obviously highly-biased propaganda to continue the anti-Pakistan agenda of the Indian government. But hey, India is not the only country in the world using fake 'terror' to get the support of it's gullible citizens.

It's about time for the real Mujahideen to unleash a shitload of azz-whoopage onto India, just like they did to your big brother, Russia.
:pakistan:

And dude,so much for Ummah when many of islamic counties are allies with US and have established peace with Israel.
I am not mocking you on anything, just that i am willing to discuss or debate based on facts and current events and not hoping for the future.
 
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Rising Kashmir, Daily Newspaper, Srinagar Jammu and Kashmir - Police launch goodwill campaign

Wasim Khalid
Srinagar, March 31: For the moment, police will put canes and tear smoke canisters aside and as part of improving its image, police would approach students and teenage youth of the city with “compassion and magnanimity” and take them on tours to bewitching flower gardens to win over their hearts.

City police has decided to take the youth, especially students for special tours to gardens, parks and places of historical importance to change their “perceived mindset” against the police.

To begin with, city police started the process from the stone pelting heartland of the Valley - old city. At least 120 students of old city were taken by police to Tulip Garden and Botanical Garden for recreational purpose on Wednesday. Police arranged the tickets, transport and refreshment for the students.

SSP City, Javed Riyaz said they kick-started the process from MPML Higher Secondary School, Bagh-i-Dilwar Khan, wherefrom students and teachers were taken to the Tulip Garden.

Riyaz had a special reason to begin from MPML School. “I chose MPML as I too have remained the student of that school.”

Riyaz along with Director Education Shugufta Parveen flagged off the first batch of students to the Tulip Garden and Botanical Garden.

“We want students to feel the beauty of colorful flowers, refreshing air blowing from the mesmerizing Dal Lake and the mountains in the backdrop,” Riyaz said. “This will at least inspire them to think something new, generate new ideas. It will thus revitalize them and they will open up and do better things in future.”

He said the “abnormal conditions” prevailing in the Valley had left a deep scar on the children’s psyche.

“Youth will enjoy the beauty of Kashmir during the tours,” SSP said. “The recreational activity will give them a break to think and act.”

Police in Srinagar is struggling to keep its image among the public due to highhandedness during stone pelting incidents, protests and demonstrations.

The raining of batons, firing tear smoke canisters, random arrests, slapping PSAs have severely dented the police-public relationship.

“There is a particular mindset among the people about the police. Some are upset,” he said. “We want to reach out to them. To change that frame of mind, to show them police is benevolent.”

The SSP said, in the first phase, government schools would be taken to flower gardens.

“Later on we will take teenage youth working in small factories and shops to gardens and other places,” Riyaz said. “The tours will not be restricted to city only. At later stages we will send youth to famous picnic spots of the Valley.”

The flower diplomacy seems to be working. “It has been my first trip to tulip garden,” a student said. “I’m amazed to see the beauty bestowed by the nature to our city.”

There have been constant efforts from government to improve the waning image of police among public. Police had already started taking youth in Islamabad area to tours for recreational purposes.
 
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And dude,so much for Ummah when many of islamic counties are allies with US and have established peace with Israel.
I am not mocking you on anything, just that i am willing to discuss or debate based on facts and current events and not hoping for the future.

I know that and I was going to include it in my above post, but I was like naaahhh.

Saudi Arabia and Egypt are the biggest traitors I can think of.
 
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So as per PK members. India has occupied the JK illegally and operssing the local populance. Whats your own record bro. Those you killed and raped were your own brother and sister. THey decided to be part of PK and you drove them to point where they have to fight with you to get separate nation. All that happened aside, PA butured and raped the same citizens the were supposed to protect.
And now in Baluchistan, This is not disputed terrotiry, still there is killing of ppl at the hands of PA is happeing.

As they say " If you live in glass house, don't throw stones at other house".
If you have proof that those killed are innocent, bring them forward. Don't rant just sake for it.
PS: If you have notice one of Jawans was killed in this encounter. So what was this, they killed there own to make this look credible?
 
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18 death of terrorists in one week:victory: :victory: :victory:

flushing out of the terrorists is the main work for j&k police(only kashmir people able to join j&k police):sniper:
 
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Separatist militants have blown up a section of railway track in Indian-administered Kashmir, the police say.

No trains were running when the militants detonated an improvised explosive device on the tracks near Pulwama. There were no casualties.

Train services between Srinagar and Qazigund have been suspended.

This is the first time militants have targeted the railway in the valley since the opening of a train service in the valley last year.

Railway authorities say the track is likely to be restored by Friday afternoon.

Violence has declined in Kashmir in recent years, but there are fears the militants are now trying to regroup.

Hundreds of thousands of Indian troops are based in Indian-administered Kashmir to fight a two decade-old insurgency against Indian rule.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8600369.stm
 
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Six rebels killed in H-Kashmir
Updated at: 1000 PST, Friday, April 02, 2010


SRINAGAR: Indian troops shot dead six suspected militants in held Kashmir, police said Friday, as rebels blew up train tracks.

The militants were killed during a fierce gunbattle in Rajouri district on Thursday, a police spokesman said, adding that the fighting erupted after Indian troops launched a "cordon and search" operation.

Meanwhile, suspected militants blew up part of the railway connecting Baramulla town in the north with the southern town of Qazigund on Thursday, the spokesman said. The track was targeted near Kakapora village, about 40 kilometers (25 miles) south of the Kashmiri summer capital of Srinagar.

"Two to three metres of railway track were damaged by the blast caused by an improvised explosive device (IED). The track is being restored shortly," the spokesman said.

Six rebels killed in H-Kashmir
 
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Must be pretty easy for the Indians to kill innocents, put a gun next to the dead body, then label it a terrorist from Pakistan's side.

We all know they are pro's at it now.

Yeah, but there are four dead Indian soldiers to make it a little difficult to sell that version.

It's about time for the real Mujahideen to unleash a shitload of azz-whoopage onto India, just like they did to your big brother, Russia.
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Of all the comments i have heard on this forum, this one must rank among the worst. Are you actually asking for mass murder to be committed in India like it was done on the Russian underground? Are you the same person who was calling the Saudis backward on another thread because they wanted to behead one guy? Guess your concern for humanity does not extend to Indians.
 
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They r terrorist against humanity.. In this week 15 terrorist killed by jammu and kashmir police with inteligence tips from local kashmiri ppl.
 
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Things are really starting to pick up in Kashmir again. I don't know if its bad timing or because of our sour relations with Pakistan, but I think our relations are about to hit a new low.
 
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Must be pretty easy for the Indians to kill innocents, put a gun next to the dead body, then label it a terrorist from Pakistan's side. .

Hmm...interesting to hear that,but can you tell me how come there are retalliations through gunfire when the merciless,cruel,anti human Indian army fires upon these innocent,peace loving creatures???

Hmm..probably the bullets and the sophisticated modern rifles,Ak-47s and the grenades drop from heaven in their handbags.and a divine power trains them within minutes to use these weapons so that they can save themselves from these cruel army.

so true !!

We all know they are pro's at it now.

yeah ! thats what we say.....they are pros at it now..both the terrorists at trying to infiltrate and ofcourse the Indian army at what they know best...welcome them with shots on their foreheads:sniper:

six militants this time...great work !! need more.
 
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