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"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter".



"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter and then, another man's cannon fodder"

This has'nt led anyone anywhere. Only apologists have to use these fig leaves; ad nauseam.
 
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"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter and then, another man's cannon fodder"

This has'nt led anyone anywhere. Only apologists have to use these fig leaves; ad nauseam.

Quoting that aphorism was meant to indicate that complex issues cannot depend on who wears what title. :)
 
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India can opt to give the Kashmiris the democratic right to vote in a plebiscite, or else the gun would have to be picked up to kill Indian soldiers.

Absolutely Correct.

Its easy to say when you are not the one pulling the trigger but pressing the keys on a keyboard.
 
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Sorry but thread starter must have got confused with all sudden happenings. :)
 
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Surprise, Surprise. The world was thinking the Kashmere fighters came from Moon. Another Dagger in Pakistan Foreign policy. As much I like Musharraf as an elequent speaker, he is losing his brain now a days.

Better to keep him inside Pakistan. He will do more damage as an outsider. The guy has no work now and keep running his mouth every where
 
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During the forthcoming visit, US is likely to push the Musharraf- Singh Formula.
US, India and rest of the world sees this as a practical and permanent solution to the Kashmir Problem. The solution will be to internationalize the current border and facilitate free trade / people exchange. This is not in Pakistan's favor. But the wind is blowing in this direction. Success of India's aggressive foreign policy. Presence of militant groups in Pakistan has put a big dent on Kashmir's freedom.
 
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most realistic reply so far unlike some "seniors". i can tell the story from indian point of view. pak did what it judged to be right rather i should say it used methods out of rush like 1989 militancy program or kargil fiasco. india made sure that pak will be seen as epicenter of terror which went quite well at lest on diplomacy level but they failed on internal level. i think mushraff knows the fact that india will never let go kashmir and there are many reasons for that and the cry for plebiscite will never be fulfilled .. chuckle.. Pakistan needs to adopt a different strategy.

Agreed... this different strategy should be a complete change of system that exists in our country today... Setup institutions that would work for everyone regardless of people's religion, ethnicity... improve the economic/social/educational situation of the people of Pakistan...

After this India can be invited to join such a state... The many problems that afflict our nation are the same that afflict India... same poverty and misery... Once a system of justice is established then let everyone taste the sweetness of it regardless if they are Hindu or Muslim or Sikh...

This however is wishful thinking... We are having such a huge problem achieving our goals in Pakistan which claims to be a country of Muslims... its impossible that the people who rule India would agree to give up their power... Then the matter between us shall be decided by the sword...
 
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Why the holy **** will Musharaf say anything like that? That was totally unasked for and fundamentally against National Interest and Kashmir struggle. This guy has nothing that we were so hyped about. He is "Used Kartoos" which he likes to call x-army personals.. now he is also a Used Kartoos and getting pain for the country. I am sure he doesn't need an opposition to destroy his image, he is self-sufficient and only needs few months to ruin his last bit of remaining respect.
 
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India can opt to give the Kashmiris the democratic right to vote in a plebiscite, or else the gun would have to be picked up to kill Indian soldiers.

Absolutely Correct.

Yeaaaaah Democrasy!!!! muslims want democrasy rights to abolish democrasy( i.e implement shariat)..
Comon for wat reasons r d kasmiri muslims(kashmiri muslims and not jammu muslims, and kasmir is not J & K, kashmir is small part of J & K) want democrasy in plebisite?? just to abolish democrasy and implement shariat, and that would mean anarchy to the life of non muslims and non snnis in J & K..

AFA picking up guns against indian soldiers Hmmm Allah knows what will happen to the Lords army :sniper::sniper: :hang2:
 
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Geelani denouces arrest of prominent Kashmiri scholar

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Written by KMS
Tuesday, 05 October 2010 18:31



Srinagar, September 05, 2010: The Chairman of All Parties Hurriyat Conference, Syed Ali Shah Geelani has strongly denounced the arrest of noted scholar and writer, Altaf Hussain Nadvi by the Indian forces and termed it frustration of the occupation authorities.

Syed Ali Shah Geelani in a statement issued in Srinagar said that Indian forces were killing and arresting innocent Kashmiri people to suppress their ongoing "Quite Kashmir Movement". Condemning the firing on innocent civilians by the Indian army during a crackdown at Nagabal in Shopian, in which four persons were injured, Geelani said that the occupation authorities had reactivated army to lay sieges of human habitations, conduct crackdowns and arrest civilians especially the students.

Lauding the courage and bravery of people of Occupied State of Jammu and Kashmir (OSJK) Syed Ali Shah Geelani said, “We have been pushed to the wall and we are in a do or die state of position. If we lose our courage, we will pass on the chains of slavery to our coming generations.”


He appealed to the people to stage peaceful demonstrations from Maghrib to Isha prayers and raise pro-freedom slogans from loudspeakers of the mosques.

Syed Ali Gilani has also expressed serious concern over the crackdowns against Hurriyat leaders and activists by Indian troops. According to the spokesman of APHC, he said that Indian troops, during raids and crackdowns, were not only harassing the inmates especially women but also damaging the precious household goods.

He said that the families and relatives of the illegally detained Hurriyat leaders and activists were not being allowed to meet them in jails. He said that police after arrest detained Hurriyat leader, Muhammad Shafi Rashi in Kupwara sub-jail but when his family members went there, they were not allowed to meet him.

The spokesman said that the occupation authorities were treating the Hurriyat leaders and activists like habitual criminals for continuing struggle for securing right of Self-Determination. He deplored that, on one side, the authorities were talking about the release of illegally detained Hurriyat leaders, while on the other, arresting the innocent youth.

Another senior Hurriyat leader and the Vice Chairman of Jammu and Kashmir Muslim League, Masarrat Alam Butt has said that India wants to crush the Kashmiris’ ongoing Quite Kashmir Movement through illegal arrests of Hurriyat leaders and use of brute force.


Masarrat Aalam Butt, while addressing a party meeting held in Srinagar, said that the recent surge in the movement had frustrated the occupation authorities and they were targeting the innocent people of the territory to break their resolve.

The Hurriyet leader said that New Delhi had started war against the people of Occupied State of Jammu and Kashmir but the morale of Kashmiris was very high and they were determined to continue their liberation struggle despite the cruelties and barbarism by the Indian police and troops. Masarat Alam Butt also denounced the arrest of brother-in-law of Hurriyet leader, Feroz Ahmad Khan and others.

A resident of Srinagar, Shabbir Hussain Khan, who has helped save hundreds of lives by donating blood regularly, is battling with multiple fractures due to thrashing by the troops of Indian Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF).

On August 16, the CRPF trooper asked Shabbir and members of Red Cross Society to get down from their vehicle when they were on way to Soura hospital for blood donation. They were beaten to pulp without any reason. Shabbir received multiple injuries in shoulder, neck, left arm and ribs.


Shabbir, who has donated blood for over 126 times, said that even in India, blood donors are facilitated to reach the needy people but situation in occupied Kashmir was contrary. “Instead of ensuring our safe passage forces are beating us ruthlessly pushing needy people towards death,” he added.

Geelani denouces arrest of prominent Kashmiri scholar
 
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The writer was in so much hurry to post this propaganda article, he even forgot to do a spell check ('denouces').

And what a sorry piece of junk this is -

Shabbir, who has donated blood for over 126 times, said that even in India, blood donors are facilitated to reach the needy people but situation in occupied Kashmir was contrary. “Instead of ensuring our safe passage forces are beating us ruthlessly pushing needy people towards death,” he added.

If that were the case, where did he donate the blood over 126 times? In Papua New Guinea?
 
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The writer was in so much hurry to post this propaganda article, he even forgot to do a spell check ('denouces').

And what a sorry piece of junk this is -



If that were the case, where did he donate the blood over 126 times? In Papua New Guinea?

we all know barathis are experts in propagandism. :rolleyes:
 
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we all know barathis are experts in propagandism. :rolleyes:

Than what is 'markthetruth'???? The blog your are quoting? :rolleyes: I don't think 'barathis' have such blog.... you got time.

And how did Mr. Altaf Hussain Nadvi became a noted scholar and writer???
 
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Why are making the life difficult for Geelani saab..Why dont give him the easy way out. But what else can we expect from this spineless leadership we have.
 
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