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good point...if anything, you are forcing them to stay indoors? Why? because of their call for freedom from hindustan

curfews are not being respected because people have much frustration and anger to let out; they have no other avenues or ways to express their anger and frustration

two points:

  • They dont need to stay indoors ..they can do watever they want outside other than pelting stones ,destroying public property and calling for "freedom"
  • Thats wat I said..they are free to do anything and everything as long as they r law abiding citizens of India.

by killing those protestors, you are fanning the flames for more unrest. And instead of understanding the GROUND REALITIES, you resort to diversionary tactics and blaming ISI/Pakistan for it.

As i always say -- purely Kashmiri local phenomenon. You reap what you sow.

It is not as simple as that..it is not that much difficult to incite a crowd to throw stones and the secuirty forces cannot do anything other than shoot back(tear gas shells).And the people killed were cause of tear gas shells and not live bullets.

And this death causes another cycle...good job.

But soory for saying..if it seems to go beyong control we can very well sow the land with castor oil (figuratively) so that nothing grows there.

And please dont insult my knowledge wth all the "pure Kashmiri phenomenon" hoopla.We both know better.


simple only to those who think laathi charges and suppression are ways to promote/ensure peace in the valley

see I ll not pretend like u that the only reason we r ther is our genuine concern for Kashmiri ppl..it is one of the reasons only.

The notable others being Kashmir's strategic importance,our territorial integrity,our pride,the blood of the martyrs already spilled and of course the deep religious values (for Hindus) we attach with Kashmir.

We made a mistake in negotiating with terrorists once in Kandahar..We will not do it again.

recent events unfolding will have me and a lot others think otherwise :)

Well all I can say is think hard,think again...;)

i'm not in denial mode.
Several million of our countrymen have suffered from terrorism, biblical-level floods, and outside efforts to meddle inside -- but with that said, world knows very well Pakistan stands shoulder to shoulder with the people and the land of Kashmir.

And our moral support to Kashmiri bretheren will never cease.

U forgot the words "Of our own creation to bleed India thru a 1000 cuts" and we r not responsible for that.

As for ur support to Kashmiri brethern...u r most welcome to do it. U do it because u think it advances ur country's interests.

But please dont cry RAW when we do wat we think is good for our interests.
 
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Slowly, we're winning hearts and minds in Kashmir


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That picture is NOT of Kashmir. Its of Lebanon (not even Palestinian), a Hezbollah mourning procession. There is a Lebanese flag in the background. Geez, when will people ever learn! Using such images to stoke further unrest is despicable and downright cheap. But then what else can one expect from people with ulterior motives!

As for rest of the article, WHATEVER! You people keep your hopes high.

Good find Gubbi..even I was wondering where the Arabic came from...

Anyways S_O_C_O_M ur standards are faltering nowadays...please go back to usual standards...:lol:
 
PROTESTERS SHOT FROM CLOSE RANGE
Docs At SMHS Reveal Gory Condition Of Victims
SAMAAN LATEEF


Srinagar, Aug 3: In what can be termed as ‘outrageous’ attack on the protesting youth in the Valley, all the 32 patients admitted in SMHS here have been hit by bullets at point-blank range and above abdomen.
Doctors in the hospital are seeing a pattern behind the police action on protesters. Doctors say forces are firing from close range to target the vital organs of protesters. “All the injured admitted here have received bullets on eye, head, lungs, heart and abdomen,” medicos said. All these patients have grievous injuries rendering them handicapped.
A teenager, Javaid Ahmad of Pattan received a bullet in his right eye from close range during clashes between protesters and police and paramilitary CRPF in his home town.
Doctors at SMHS stated that Javaid’s eye was damaged and he won’t be able to see for the rest of the life, if at all he survives. Javaid is not the only person who has to beg for death if he survives. Several other cases are there in the hospitals, who have been hit above abdomen by bullets from close range by police and CRPF.
A senior doctor in SMHS pleading anonymity termed the situation as outrageous. He said looking at the injured admitted here clearly depicts that the forces in the Valley are to kill the protesters not to quell them. Aabid Hussain Mir of Bandipora is another case, who has been hit from “very close range.” Doctors termed the chances of his retaining the eye sight nil.
The 15 year old, Suhail Ahmad Dar of HMT is another victim of “target firing.” He received a bullet today in his abdomen, when forces fired on Eidgah Chalo procession in Parimpora.
Eyewitness told Greater Kashmir that police personnel hit Suhail from just 5 meters range. “Suhail fell down and got drenched in blood. Subsequently, we rushed him to SMHS.” After receiving the injured Suhail, doctors said he was pulse-less and in shock. Suhail was battling for life in the Operation Theatre, when this reporter visited the hospital. Doctors say he has been hit from just 5 meters range and lost one major vessel and got multiple gut proliferations. Expressing their helplessness, doctors outside Operation Theatre termed Suhail’s chances of survival bleak. “We may lose one more child,” they said.
A 15 year old girl, Nishu Jan of Shalimar was hit by bullet on head from close range. After seeing her deteriorating condition doctors referred her to SKIMS, Soura.
Muhammad Subhan Zargar is another injured, who received bullet in his chest from few meters away, doctors said. SMHS has received atleast 50 injured persons in past three days. At present 32 patients are admitted in SMHS, in which 18 are in wards and 12 in causality. All these patients have been hit above abdomen and from close range by police and paramilitary forces. Pertinently, hospital authorities refer injured patients, who get injuries below abdomen to Bone and Joints Hospital, Barzulla.

PROTESTERS SHOT FROM CLOSE RANGE Lastupdate:- Wed, 4 Aug 2010 18:30:00 GMT GreaterKashmir.com
 
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‘Kashmir Has Right To Decide Its Fate’
‘India Blocking UN Resolutions’
KUWAIT CITY, Aug 16: Kashmir has the right to decide on whether to join India or Pakistan or become an independent state, said the Thewabit Al-Ummah Group at a press conference Monday in solidarity with the people of Kashmir.

The group’s secretary general, MP Mohammed Hayef, along with MPs Waleed Al-Tabtabaei and Jamaan Al-Harbash, attended the conference.

Calling on the United Nations (UN) to address the problem in Kashmir, Hayef pointed out this has been going on over the last 60 years. “We have been hearing reports on human rights abuses and various forms of atrocities, including the Indian armored cars allegedly firing at unarmed children, who had nothing but stones to defend themselves. The UN has not done or said anything amid such atrocious acts,” he lamented.

Expressing his disappointment over India’s failure to implement the UN resolutions that have become mere ink on paper, Hayef pointed out many people in the occupied territory have been missing, imprisoned, killed and raped, yet they have been branded as terrorists just because they chose to fight for their independence. He appealed to the human rights organizations to get their acts together to resolve the humanitarian issue in Kashmir. He also lashed out at the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) for its inability to push for the implementation of the resolutions to end the suffering of the people in Kashmir.

Meanwhile, Al-Harbash opined the current situation in Kashmir requires unity among Muslims to avoid the recurrence of the problem in Palestine. He confirmed his solidarity with the people in Kashmir, stressing the need to raise the voice of victory in this area, in the same manner that relief goods are being sent to Pakistan. He called on the entire world to support Kashmir as it has done with East Timor until the latter attained its independence.

Al-Tabtabaei, on the other hand, believes the Kashmir issue resurfaced recently due to the prevalence of religious and political persecutions in this part of the world, adding that Britain left Kashmir when it withdrew from India.

Accusing India of occupying a Muslim land, Al-Tabtabaei asserted the UN has issued a resolution on the right of Kashmir to decide its fate but India has been impeding efforts in this regard.
?Kashmir has right to decide its fate?
 
Interesting ... Seems like pressure is building up against India.. may be now can India understand that every thing happening in Kashmir is not due ISI or Pakistan.. :cheers:
It's because one can not supress people by force.
 
Interesting ... Seems like pressure is building up against India.. may be now can India understand that every thing happening in Kashmir is not due ISI or Pakistan.. :cheers:
It's because one can not supress people by force.

Dude serioulsy do u think atleast for a moment that a dummy group's statement that too from kuwait is gonna put pressure on India..? :lol:

Im sure even ur leaders dont take the Kuwaitis too seriously...India ..:woot:
 
Great stuff, and so unexpected. I wish the leaders of the world would come forward and condemn India as well
 
Wow..lots of pressure, now that Kuwaiti MPs have spoken. A nation that only recently allowed its women to vote, is worried about the human rights in Kashmir. Give me a break...
 
WTF we didn't care when the organization for oil producing countries in middle east issued statements many times.

We didn't bow down to US pressure even when they were not favourable to us.

Who says that we will listen to these weirdos.
 
Dude serioulsy do u think atleast for a moment that a dummy group's statement that too from kuwait is gonna put pressure on India..?

Im sure even ur leaders dont take the Kuwaitis too seriously...India ..

He is raising voice towards UN not directly asking India to do anything, and if nothing else it has more weight than Indian PM's saying Kashmir is integral part of India.

Its not about that Kuwait has done something huge, it is that another Muslim country has raised voice over the issue again.

It will have no direct effect but can make other nations to wake up to this issue!!
 
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