Kashmir | News & Discussions.

[BATMAN]

^^It is a matter of shame which you are not condeming...

To answer your comment....... problem of Kashmiris is not limited to its integration with india.

It is about mass killings of their ancesstors..... missing children...women and men!

Ever wonder why indian media is not allowed to print such news?

 

[ice_man]

JAVA MAN his name is Ali ZAFAR not JAFAR!

ignore it its an indian problem!

they can't saay ROOZ say ROOJ
they can't say PHIR they say FHIR

now they can't say ZAFAR and say Jafar!!

as for this news let it go media doesn't find this news as spiced up as taliban wearing masks and shouting threats to USA! every channel and media wants TRP ratings to go up!

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

ignore it its an indian problem!

they can't saay ROOZ say ROOJ
they can't say PHIR they say FHIR

now they can't say ZAFAR and say Jafar!!

as for this news let it go media doesn't find this news as spiced up as taliban wearing masks and shouting threats to USA! every channel and media wants TRP ratings to go up!

Well they can quit using URDU and start using there own HINDI.

 

[FreekiN]

When are these Indians going to come to their senses and realize whether they like it or not, Kashmir isn't going to be in the hands of India for very long and they can't keep killing innocent people forever under the tag of calling them terrorist?

So that life loss can be prevented on both sides.

 

[sunny001]

And so was East Pakistan.

Attrocities are matter of concern wether Indian, Pakistani, Chinese or Israeli.

There aren't 10 million refugees banging your door. Your are not spending a million dollars a day just to feed and shelter them. That's the difference between kashmir and east Pakistan.

Also we did not kill 3 million people just to satisfy our egoistic thinking that west pakistanis are some how superior to bengali speaking east pakistanis.

 

[somebozo]

wen r these Kashmiris going to come to their senses and realise wether they like or not Kashmir is going nowhere and will remain with India.?

So that life loss can be prevented on both sides.

The same was true about parts of Punjab and Sindh until 1947. The Kashmiris will have their independence one day for sure..Inshallah.

If Indians have soo much sympathy, they should and can stop the life loss ASAP. Its all in their hands.

 

[sunny001]

When are these Indians going to come to their senses and realize whether they like it or not, Kashmir isn't going to be in the hands of India for very long and they can't keep killing innocent people forever under the tag of calling them terrorist?

So that life loss can be prevented on both sides.

I doubt India is going to give away Kashmir just that easily. Any government that takes such a decision could say good bye to power for at least 2 decades. That's how much sentiment put into this by indian janta.

It would have been easier if there weren't terrorist attacks in India from Pakistan. Because of these attacks, Public are so enraged, they are willing to look away from human rights violations that are happening in Kashmir.

I don't think any country, even US, could coerce India into settling Kashmir. It'll take its own time in deciding the matter.

In 10 years, Indian economy would be so big that Kashmiris would rather stay with India than become independent and lead destitute lives. They are not fighting to join Pakistan. They are fighting for independence. I don't think either Pakistan or India would allow that to happen. Status quo would prevail for uncertain period of time until Kashmiris realise they are going no where with this.

But, mean while, I strongly recommend army to move out of towns to border areas for time being. They can't afford the bad publicity they are getting these days.

 

[Hulk]

When are these Indians going to come to their senses and realize whether they like it or not, Kashmir isn't going to be in the hands of India for very long and they can't keep killing innocent people forever under the tag of calling them terrorist?

So that life loss can be prevented on both sides.

About bold part, we are never going to realize that, it is Pakistan who has to realize that it is not 1971 and they cannot do to India what India did to them period.

The reason why we think that Kashmir's problem is created rather then internal can be understood if you try to answer the following questions honestly.

1) Why till 1989 there was no problem in Kashmir, when they never wanted to be with India? This is very important question, till 1989 there was no talk of mass grave, I went to Kashmir 15 times before that, not a single world against India. We are not fools to fall in traps. Local are instigated using hired stone pelter's and politicians.
2) Why in 1999 when the so called Kashmiri waiting for freedom, came out in support fro Pakistani's? As they do today? People waiting for freedom for 50 years, that day should have been very big for them right?
3) Why the problem is mostly starting only from either Sopor or Srinagar?
4) If all Kashmiri wants to stay with Pakistan who is current chief minister of J&K and what is his views?
5) What are MP's from J&K are doing in Indian Parliament?
6) What was Sekh Abdulla's stand on Kashmir?

There are a whole bunch of Kashmir's which are pro India and whole bunch who are pro independence, some people may have high ambition of becoming a prime minister (e.g. Geelani). And there are some who might want to be part of Pakistan too. The division is fractured and not in favor of anyone and this can change if there is a long period of calm, as happened in Punjab India. In for USA there was lot internal war before they got united. We are ready to wait and time is running out for others, this is last resort that is going on now. People will be very soon frustrated.

Jai Hind.

 

[sunny001]

Why than locals are deprived of their local news?

Because its a internal matter of India. If anyone should ask that question, it should be indians not you.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Because its a internal matter of India. If anyone should ask that question, it should be indians not you.

Thts wat indians think a common delussion... its DISPUTED ASK UN,OIC,EU or anyother.

Just violating human rights n killing people wont solve any issue.
But ur welcome to continue living in ur wet dreams

 

[ice_man]

I doubt India is going to give away Kashmir just that easily. Any government that takes such a decision could say good bye to power for at least 2 decades. That's how much sentiment put into this by indian janta.

It would have been easier if there weren't terrorist attacks in India from Pakistan. Because of these attacks, Public are so enraged, they are willing to look away from human rights violations that are happening in Kashmir.

I don't think any country, even US, could coarse India into settling Kashmir. It'll take its own time in deciding the matter.

In 10 years, Indian economy would be so big that Kashmiris would rather stay with India than become independent and lead destitute lives. They are not fighting to join Pakistan. They are fighting for independence. I don't think either Pakistan or India would allow that to happen.

this is exactly what the ISRAELIS thought they for 5 decades kept making sure their external threats are destroyed to a level that egypt and jordan became friends! the syrians became only a loud sounding war cry!

and then the resistance of the PALESTANIANS rose suicide bombings in israel! today israel has tried for more than a decade to crush the resistance of the local Palestinians and got no where! now its your turn to follow the israeli foot steps! your economy will be bleed watch and see! india can never get to a super power status but keep dreaming a "HAPPY EVER AFTER" bollywood style

 

[sunny001]

The same was true about parts of Punjab and Sindh until 1947. The Kashmiris will have their independence one day for sure..Inshallah.

If Indians have soo much sympathy, they should and can stop the life loss ASAP. Its all in their hands.

How? Give it independence or rather give to Pakistan. Not going to happen. In 10 years there won't be kashmir issue anymore. India would be too big a economy for pakistan to wage a war against it.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

How? Give it independence or rather give to Pakistan. Not going to happen. In 10 years there won't be kashmir issue anymore. India would be too big a economy for pakistan to wage a war against it.

Ur already a bigger economy and 4 times large country with like 85% more population and the issue is still there?Going strong and will Inshallah be solved in near future....
U have 2 options:
A)Give kashmiris their right to chose.
B)Kill all of them.

 

[BATMAN]

Because its a internal matter of India. If anyone should ask that question, it should be indians not you.

This is Pakistan defence forum.... only Pakistanis should be socializing here NOT you!

 

[sunny001]

this is exactly what the ISRAELIS thought they for 5 decades kept making sure their external threats are destroyed to a level that egypt and jordan became friends! the syrians became only a loud sounding war cry!

and then the resistance of the PALESTANIANS rose suicide bombings in israel! today israel has tried for more than a decade to crush the resistance of the local Palestinians and got no where! now its your turn to follow the israeli foot steps! your economy will be bleed watch and see! india can never get to a super power status but keep dreaming a "HAPPY EVER AFTER" bollywood style

But Palestanians that are in Gaza are not isralies. Kashmiris in India are Indians. They've all the provisions that Indian state provides to its citizens. India doesn't have to get a super power status, in 10 years even if economy doubles, while it is expected to quadraple, it would be impossible for pakistan to wage a war. It would go backrupt in a week. Even now, I don't think any country can persuade India into settling kashmir. India is not Israel but for such small country it is handling its business extremely well. India is a vast country, it could continue with its business, even if a certain section of its society is struggling.

Also, it is not as if Kashmiris are entering into an alien culture. There are more muslims in India than in Pakistan. So that shouldn't be a problem.