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[Rig Vedic]

Joe, after your desperate and dishonest attempts to pin Samjhauta on the RSS, you need to explain why you should be taken any more seriously than Zaid Hamid.

That seems to be very typical of what you write.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Whoa there! Don't get personal on me Mr Shearer.

There was nothing personal about any observation I made, and I can defend it adequately, thankYouVeryMuch. Let's look at the record.

It seems you didn't get what I was trying to say. I am a minority okay! But don't feel like one, because I'm fully integrated, and I hate it when my government has to bend over backwards to accommodate certain communities who refuse to integrate.

Yes I'm pissed off at this. You got a problem with that ? (no I'm not going to start a 'riot' if you do have a problem)

Go ahead, brand my statement as "anti-'minority'", "communal" , "divisive, "anti-secular"

This is a distortion.

You may notice that my comments on your mail were divided into two portions. I had nothing 'personal' to say about the words that you cite above, except to point out that your rant against the Congress and the Mullahcracy was misplaced. The point of view being expressed by me and by others is not BJP vs. the Congress, it is the Rule of Law vs. those who keep violating it.

I had, on the other hand, much to say about the smart remarks about Subramaniam having said something, but having meant something else.

I was pointing to Subramanian's point:
Every country in the world works by the feeling of the majority except India.

What he really wanted to say:
Only India works by the feeling of the 'minority'​

This was wholly uncalled for, unless you have a vakalatnama from Mr. Subramaniam. You are not his 'mouthpiece' to explain what he really meant to say. If, on the other hand, you have selected that position of responsibility, you have to bear equal responsibility with him regarding his views, and what holding those views then entails. It entails, in this case, being considered to share his views, expressed in such detail that there is no ambiguity possible, that there is not much to be said for the rule of law, the rule of law is what the law is thought to be by the party currently in power, that violence against minorities is justified - I could go on, but I've just finished a meal.

It was not even this that led to what you construe as a 'personal' remark. It was the content of your own remarks, not Subramaniam's.

If it is your view, or you identify with the view that in India, the country's systems are skewed to work with the feelings of the minority, then it is fair to say that it is you who is responsible, along with others who think like you, that political parties can work for sections of the citizenry, rather than all the citizenry. It is then fair to say you are responsible for political parties using minority beliefs to curry favour with them, because it is you who acknowledges that this state exists.

I hope that this will not lead to the specious defence that you are merely saying this to be critical, because once having started to support Subramaniam, unless you explicitly say so, we are entitled to assume support for all of his views. He does not say that he will stop feeling 'pissed off' if minorities stop getting special treatment, he has a lot to say about the rule of law, about the rule of law being adaptable to the wishes of the party in power, rather than being uniform and immutable, and about the propriety of violent attacks on minorities. When you choose, of your own free will, to become his 'mouthpiece', you thereby shoulder the burden of these fascist views as well (fascist in the specific technical sense, not as a pejorative use).

Regarding your being a Jain and being a minority totally integrated to the majority: the Jains have not had any specific demands, as far as I know. The personal code applied to them is patchily described, but the marriage code applied is the Hindu Marriage Act. They, like all others, are permitted to marry under the Special Marriages Act. Everybody, including Muslims, and agnostics like me, are allowed to marry under the Special Marriages Act, and marrying in that way does not even preclude additional religious ceremonies (I should know, having suffered the indignity of being made to undergo three separate marriage ceremonies within a span of three days).

So what disabilities do Jains have that they have cheerfully set aside, and decided to forget in order to march along with the majority? Besides Jains, Buddhists and Sikhs are also covered by the Hindu Marriage Act, so what's the problem? Is it that you'd like your own personal act, or code, and resent the Muslims having their own code?

Regarding the Uniform Civil Code, that is a good thing; why is it not introduced, on a voluntary, irreversible basis? The BJP had a long stretch of ruling the country; why did they not work on this, although they were so vociferous about it while in opposition? The Congress may have acted like craven cowards; the Left may never had power; what stopped the BJP?

 

[KS]

Joe, after your desperate and dishonest attempts to pin Samjhauta on the RSS, you need to explain why you should be taken any more seriously than Zaid Hamid.

That seems to be very typical of what you write.

Add to that his ill-conceived attempt to blame the wrong doings of Pramod Muthalik on RSS whereas in reality he was expelled from the Sangh which did not approve of his acitivities.

 

[KS]

That argument can be twisted to say that Haj subsidy is being paid for by Muslim taxpayers & therefore should be none of your concern. Your problem is the same as that of the BJP's - no consistency of position. If you take a position, then you must abide with it, not constantly changing the goalposts because you favour one side.

No I am not changing any goal posts buddy. And you comparison is anything but apt and in your own words - You are just twisting my logic purposefully to suit you. Let me explain why.

The donations given by the Government are wholly financed by the various collections accruing in the temples through the donations given by the devotees and also from the land revenue from the hundreds of acres of lands owned by the temples.

In all these cases the devotees are Hindu and Hindu only.

But in the case of Waqf properties the Government does not collect the money from them. So how can you equate both.??

I am paying indirectly for the Haj subsidy while again its me who pays for the temples also. I dont have any problems in paying for the temple but for Haj, I dont want to.

That was also the reason behind my complete disillusionment with the BJP; 1)their stand on the Malegaon blasts, If you are hard on terrorism, then it should be with no exceptions. 2)Making excuses for one lot not only wipes out credibility, it also gives the other side a chance to throw that very same argument in your face & cite double standards.

1) I will repeat what I said to Joe - Unlike the Jihadi organisations that claim responsibility for whatever activity that takes place, no Hindu organisation took resposibility for Malegaon.They are still accused and not proved of their crime. So shall we hold our horses ?

2) The second point is a cyclic logic. You can say the same about Hindu rightwing orgs while I can parrot it for jihadi orgs. And FYI this is the exact same logic the Hindu Rightwing orgs give for any of their transgressions and rightly so considering the soft corner the political parties have for minorities. This double standard has gone to such ridiculous levels that PDP (Kerala) whose activists and leader were convicted of serial bomb blasts in my city is termed secular while RSS is blamed as communal. We today have an Asimuddin Owaisi of a blatantly communal party ,MIM give lectures on secularism.

So who will stop first ? And dont blame me for Double standards ,we all are guilty of it.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Joe, after your desperate and dishonest attempts to pin Samjhauta on the RSS, you need to explain why you should be taken any more seriously than Zaid Hamid.

That seems to be very typical of what you write.

The Government of India's teams still have ample evidence about the involvement of these lunatic fringe elements in the Samjhauta Express blast, and in fact, the net has been extended to a senior swami in the inner echelons of power of the Sangh Parivar as late as the last fortnight or so. There is significant credibility for the version that has been built up.

I do not need to explain anything, as it is entirely up to you and to others reading me to decide how to take my views. I will not compromise, not with Hindu bigots, nor with bigots of any other religion; not with BJP fascists, nor with any other breed of fascists; not with the CPM and the Maoists, nor with any other political section advocating violent means to achieve their political ends.

You seem to miss the point: I'm not standing for election, nor am I seeking your approval, or the approval of the Indians as a whole, the Pakistanis, the Bangladeshis or the Chinese.

Unlike Zaid Hamid, I don't depend on the TRPS of my show for my living.

 

[infidel]

The Government of India's teams still have ample evidence about the involvement of these lunatic fringe elements in the Samjhauta Express blast, and in fact, the net has been extended to a senior swami in the inner echelons of power of the Sangh Parivar as late as the last fortnight or so. There is significant credibility for the version that has been built up.

I do not need to explain anything, as it is entirely up to you and to others reading me to decide how to take my views. I will not compromise, not with Hindu bigots, nor with bigots of any other religion; not with BJP fascists, nor with any other breed of fascists; not with the CPM and the Maoists, nor with any other political section advocating violent means to achieve their political ends.

You seem to miss the point: I'm not standing for election, nor am I seeking your approval, or the approval of the Indians as a whole, the Pakistanis, the Bangladeshis or the Chinese.

Unlike Zaid Hamid, I don't depend on the TRPS of my show for my living.

WTH..
which teams are u talking about ?
CBI , ATS , Teestas, Barkhas...???
these teams ???

what proof these teams of ure congress has managed to get so far ???
other then concocted politicially motivated stories to blame one particular community.

 

[KS]

WTH..
which teams are u talking about ?
CBI , ATS , Teestas, Barkhas...???
these teams ???

what proof these teams of ure congress has managed to get so far ???
other then concocted politicially motivated stories to blame one particular community.

Buddy please dont get personal. Atleast he is not guilty of supporting the congress

 

[Rig Vedic]

The Government of India's teams still have ample evidence about the involvement of these lunatic fringe elements in the Samjhauta Express blast, and in fact, the net has been extended to a senior swami in the inner echelons of power of the Sangh Parivar as late as the last fortnight or so. There is significant credibility for the version that has been built up.

What teams and what evidence? Let us look at the so called evidence. Why should anyone believe that that isn't a load of nonsense put out by the Congress government to defame Indic movements, especially when there is so much specific data pointing in a completely different direction.

 

[justanobserver]

This was wholly uncalled for, unless you have a vakalatnama from Mr. Subramaniam. You are not his 'mouthpiece' to explain what he really meant to say. If, on the other hand, you have selected that position of responsibility, you have to bear equal responsibility with him regarding his views, and what holding those views then entails. It entails, in this case, being considered to share his views, expressed in such detail that there is no ambiguity possible, that there is not much to be said for the rule of law, the rule of law is what the law is thought to be by the party currently in power, that violence against minorities is justified - I could go on, but I've just finished a meal.

It was not even this that led to what you construe as a 'personal' remark. It was the content of your own remarks, not Subramaniam's.

If it is your view, or you identify with the view that in India, the country's systems are skewed to work with the feelings of the minority, then it is fair to say that it is you who is responsible, along with others who think like you, that political parties can work for sections of the citizenry, rather than all the citizenry. It is then fair to say you are responsible for political parties using minority beliefs to curry favour with them, because it is you who acknowledges that this state exists.

I hope that this will not lead to the specious defence that you are merely saying this to be critical, because once having started to support Subramaniam, unless you explicitly say so, we are entitled to assume support for all of his views. He does not say that he will stop feeling 'pissed off' if minorities stop getting special treatment, he has a lot to say about the rule of law, about the rule of law being adaptable to the wishes of the party in power, rather than being uniform and immutable, and about the propriety of violent attacks on minorities. When you choose, of your own free will, to become his 'mouthpiece', you thereby shoulder the burden of these fascist views as well (fascist in the specific technical sense, not as a pejorative use).
So what disabilities do Jains have that they have cheerfully set aside, and decided to forget in order to march along with the majority? Besides Jains, Buddhists and Sikhs are also covered by the Hindu Marriage Act, so what's the problem??

I said what I felt about Subramaniam's particular post, spare me the psychoanalysis, notice I haven't been thanking him nor quoting him for his other views

Is it that you'd like your own personal act, or code

NO

resent the Muslims having their own code

YES

Ideally I wouldn't want Hindu, Muslim or Christian marriage acts, but a Uniform Civil Code.

However I don't resent the "Hindu Marriage Act" because it is essentially a set of secular laws (I know about Hindu Laws in the Manu Smriti ok ? They're not included in this act)

The problem with the Muslim marriage act it that it allows polygamy by virtue of religious scriptures, which I resent (not the actual scriptures but interference of religion). Are we Saudi Arabia ? Polygamy ?! Of course there is the Triple Talaq BS!

The Christian Marriage act is fine , but it does not allow same sex marriage (which is already against the law here). So when it (same sex marriage) becomes legal yes, they'd be a problem

 

[infidel]

What evidence? Let us look at the so called evidence. Why should anyone believe that that isn't a load of nonsense put out by the Congress government to defame Indic movements, especially when there is so much credible data pointing in a completely different direction.

there is no evidence whatsoever against them.
Pragya has been in jail for months, and not a single charge has been proven against her yet, everytime congress seems to be losing public sympathy, all of a sudden ATS brings out one more allegation out of thier sleeves maligning another senior leader of RSS, and some intellect bigots or i should say useful idiots, lap these trickeries of congressis.

 

[Rig Vedic]

Add to that his ill-conceived attempt to blame the wrong doings of Pramod Muthalik on RSS whereas in reality he was expelled from the Sangh which did not approve of his acitivities.

Not just expelled .. he was even working against the BJP in the elections, contrary to what Joe imagines. See SRS chief Promod Mutalik likely to contest LS election | Chennai Vision News

 

[justanobserver]

Here is my post again if you missed it

I said what I felt about Subramaniam's particular post, spare me the psychoanalysis, notice I haven't been thanking him nor quoting him for his other views



Quote:

Is it that you'd like your own personal act, or code

NO

Quote:

resent the Muslims having their own code

YES

Ideally I wouldn't want Hindu, Muslim or Christian marriage acts, but a Uniform Civil Code.

However I don't resent the "Hindu Marriage Act" because it is essentially a set of secular laws (I know about Hindu Laws in the Manu Smriti ok ? They're not included in this act)

The problem with the Muslim marriage act it that it allows polygamy by virtue of religious scriptures, which I resent (not the actual scriptures but interference of religion). Are we Saudi Arabia ? Polygamy ?! Of course there is the Triple Talaq BS!

The Christian Marriage act is fine , but it does not allow same sex marriage (which is already against the law here). So when it (same sex marriage) becomes legal yes, they'd be a problem

 

[Rig Vedic]

What is an Indic? Your code for Hindu?

And you expect an unbiased report from Chandan Mitra, called to talk on TV talk shows to represent the BJP? and the Sangh Parivar in general?

Indic is Indic. Look it up in a dictionary.

You were claiming that is impossible for 85% of the population to be attacked by minorities. When told about a typical, actual, pogrom you respond with ad-hominem insinuations.

Anyway, there are dozens of press reports cited at 2010 Deganga riots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Really?

Christian faction of the Maoists? Are we innovating politically here? Is there any religious divide within the Maoists, except in the overheated minds of the BJP and its supporters?

Nowhere, in all its activities, have the Maoists supported evangelists. The Maoists have their own very clearly defined agenda and political programme; like it or leave it, they are clear about what they represent and what they want, and whom they oppose.

There can be no doubt, I hope, gauging by their activities, not only in Orissa, but also in Chhatisgarh, that they are irreconcilably hostile to the BJP and its fascist politics. There is no point in discovering mythical religious segments and orientation within their ranks in order to ward off the clear consequences of Lakshmananda's violent proselytisation. If he had not opposed the conversions among the Pans or Pannas, if he had not taken the route of allying himself with the human-sacrificing, and, ironically, beef-eating Konds or Kandhas, the communal upheaval would not have occurred.

The Sangh Parivar, in this case, I believe, the VHP, took advantage of the keen resentment of the Kandhas to Pannas seeking to be treated with respect and human dignity to couch this anthropological problem in religious terms, and to use the activity of conversions to create the bloodshed and disorder which traditionally they have used to fetch votes.

Just like the National Socialists.

It is not surprising to see Joe trying to justify the slaughter of an elderly monastic, along with other Ashram residents. Laxmanananda had been targeted by violent converts on many previous occasions. And yes, there was indeed a split in the Maoist ranks on communal lines, with the Christian converts supporting the murder. Here is a report written by an expert on Maoist terrorism:

Orissa: Fissures in Red
Fakir Mohan Pradhan
Institute for Conflict Management
South Asia Intelligence Review (SAIR), Weekly Assessments & Briefings, 7.31

Two dramatic developments in Orissa towards the end of 2008 and overflowing into the early months of 2009 have been the source of confusion regarding the Communist Party of India – Maoist’s (CPI-Maoist) future in this State on the India’s eastern coast. The first was the ‘split’ within the outfit along religious lines, leading to the birth of a new outfit; the second was the expulsion of Sabyasachi Panda, ‘general secretary’ of the Orissa unit of the CPI-Maoist. Although there has been some speculation regarding these developments, since both the ‘split’ and the ‘expulsion’ came to light through posters and a ‘press release’, it is more than certain that there is something deeply amiss within the group, and that this could create a serious challenge for its future activities in Orissa.

Intrinsically linked with both these developments was the killing of Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati, an activist of the Right Wing Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP), on August 23, 2008, an incident that sparked widespread communal violence in the Kandhamal District. An earlier attack on the Swami in December 2007 had also sparked clashes in the area. The Swami’s anti-conversion activities, targeting the Christian population mostly belonging to the Pana caste, brought him closer to the Kui tribals in the region, who constitute almost 51 per cent population of the District; this had, however, brought him into direct confrontation with the Pana Christians, who account for just 18 per cent of the population, of which some 70 per cent has converted to Christianity. Both the Pana Christians and Kuis fought pitched battle in August and September 2008, leading to the deaths of at least 38 persons in the area and the displacement of thousands from their villages. Due to their sheer numerical disadvantage, the Pana Christians were the primary victims in the conflict.

Initially, there was utter confusion regarding the identity of the killers of the Swami. But Sabyasachi Panda claimed responsibility for the incident in October 2008, even writing an article in a local magazine "Manishara Bartabaha Swabhimana" justifying the killing and accusing Lakshmananda of creating sectarian divisions among the poor of the Kandhamal District. Panda wrote "After the December 2007 communal violence in Kandhamal, we threatened to kill him if he and his supporters did not refrain from harassing tribals and Dalit Christians to change their religion."

This declaration in ethnically polarized Kandhamal was seen as an open stance in favour of the Christians and appeared to have sparked off an immediate division within the CPI-Maoist’s Orissa unit, which comprises significant tribal cadres. A new outfit calling itself ‘M2’ released posters on December 20, indicating that the group represented a breakaway faction of the CPI-Maoist, consisting of its Hindu cadres. The M2 renamed itself ‘Idealize of Democrat Guerrilla Army–Maoist’ (sic) (IDGA-Maoist). However, the shorter ‘M2’ has stuck, and M2 posters denouncing the People’s Liberation Guerrilla Army (PLGA) of the CPI-Maoist and Sabyasachi Panda for the VHP leader’s death have claimed that, while the Swami was opposed to proselytisation and killing of cows, he was not opposed to the Maoists. It accused the CPI-Maoist under Panda’s leadership of unnecessarily straying from its original objective of ‘class struggle’, towards a communal conflict in exchange for money from the Christian missionaries. An M2 sympathizer thus stated in a media interview: "Maoists don’t have any religion. Their religion is to safeguard the vulnerable people and fight exploitation and oppression. But those under Panda are acting like a mafia." On January 3, the day M2 was formally constituted, the outfit called for a bandh (general shutdown) in the Kandhamal, Gajapati and Ganjam Districts.

The bandh call evoked a spontaneous response across the Kandhamal District, and had partial impact in the two adjoining Districts – Gajapati and Ganjam. M2 has, since, enlisted the support of the Kui Samaj Samanwyay Samiti (KSSS), a body of Kui tribals in Kandhamal District. "We do not know who the leader of M2 is. But we support the outfit on the basis of the content of its posters. They have announced plans to fight for the interest of tribals who are exploited by others,'' KSSS leader Lambodar Kanhar said. The Maoists have traditionally enjoyed significant support among the Kui tribals and the Kui tribal organization, Kui Labanga Sangha (Kui Youth Association) has been proscribed since 2005-06 for serving as a front organization of the Maoists.

Close on the heels of the M2’s rather successful general shutdown call, the CPI-Maoist’s Central Committee announced the expulsion of Sabyasachi Panda. In a faxed message on January 16, 2009, to two Oriya language newspapers – Sambad and Dharitri – the outfit accused Panda of "anti-party activities" and threatened him with dire consequences for his "anti-people activities". It also held him squarely responsible for the communal violence in the Kandhamal District. The CPI-Maoist claimed that, though fighting against "Hindu fascist forces" has been its policy, ‘power hungry’ Panda never sought permission or clearance from the Central Committee before executing such a crucial decision as that of eliminating Swami Lakshmananda. Because of Sabyasachi Panda’s ‘ego’, "poor people suffered" and the "outfit got blamed in public", the fax message read. The Maoists went further to accuse Panda of embezzlement of ‘donations’ collected in the name of the CPI-Maoist and passing on the funds to help his close relatives. As a result, some of Panda’s relatives have come to amass huge fortunes, the party alleged. The Fax further warned Sabyasachi to refund the money collected in the name of the outfit or else be ready to face the same consequence that other ‘traitors’ have faced. The Central Committee claimed to have received information about Panda’s plans to join the ruling Biju Janata Dal (BJD) party and contest elections. It also claimed that Sabyasachi, who is only a member of the State Organizational Committee of the Maoists, had made false claims of being the Secretary of the Committee as well as a member of the Central Committee. Bhaskar currently heads the Orissa unit of the outfit, intelligence sources indicated. Posters informing the public of Panda’s misdeeds were also found pasted in the headquarters town of Rayagada District, adjoining Kandhamal and Gajapati Districts.

Sabyasachi Panda had joined the Naxalite movement in 1991 and is credited with rejuvenating its activities in Orissa by 1996. He had formed the Kui Labanga Sangha to spread Maoist activities among the Kui tribals. Panda had gained notoriety for masterminding the Nayagarh armory raid in February 15, 2008. His involvement in the June 29, 2008, attack on the elite anti-Maoist Greyhounds personnel in the Chitrakonda reservoir was also strongly suspected. More than 20 cases of murder, extortion and dacoity are currently registered against Panda. The son of the late Ramesh Panda, a former three-time Member of the Legislative Assembly (MLA) of the Communist Party of India-Marxist (CPI-M), who had later joined the BJD and was acting as the Nayagarh District President of the Party till his death in 2003, Sabyasachi Panda is also alleged to have links with several influential persons in the State’s power centres. Sabyasachi Panda’s mother-in-law is also a member of the BJD.

While Panda had been a source of significant strength for the CPI-Maoist in the past, his autocratic and corrupt ways of functioning are said to have led to at least three of his close associates – Abraham Gamang, Buddha Gamang and Hitringa Majhi – parting ways with the group. The trio now runs the Loka Sangrama Mancha (People’s Revolution Front), a non-violent group working for the removal of backwardness and poverty.

Intelligence sources informed SAIR that Sabyasachi’s expulsion also had to do with his refusal to be transferred out of Orissa, a policy that the CPI-Maoist follows to prevent cadres and leaders from developing vested interests in one area of operation. Towards the middle of 2008, Sabyasachi had been asked to move to the Telengana region of Andhra Pradesh by the CPI-Maoist Central Committee, a move that he chose to resist. Sources also indicated that it was Panda who provided the Police with the tip-off that led to the arrest of two officials of the Gandhi Institute of Engineering and Technology at Gunupur in Rayagada District on December 29, 2008, and the recovery of INR 1.2 million from them. The two officials were going to make a ‘donation’ to the Maoists. There are also references to an internal power struggle within the CPI-Maoist. Sabyasachi’s recent moves are said to have been propelled by Orissa’s non-representation in the 14-member CPI-Maoist Central Committee, which is dominated by nine leaders from Andhra Pradesh.

There is significant evidence that suggests that the Maoists have undergone a split in Orissa, and that Panda’s ‘expulsion’ is an attempt by the outfit to camouflage the consequent weakness that has temporarily set in, in its Orissa State unit. It remains to be seen whether the rebels’ vulnerabilities will persist, or whether the State’s enforcement agencies possess the capacities to take advantage of this transient infirmity to inflict further damage on the Maoists.

Are we supposed to accept these Nanavati Commissions as the truth?

Joe, please read. We are not talking about Nanavati. We are talking about Orissa, about the official inquiry into the Orissa violence, conducted by Justice S.C. Mahapatra, under a state government hostile to the BJP. Here is the report again - Conversion, reconversion led to Kandhamal riots: Commission - The Times of India

 

[KS]

It is not surprising to see Joe trying to justify the slaughter of Indics. The elderly monk had been targeted by violent converts on many previous occasions. Here is a report written by an expert on Maoist terrorism:

Actually this is getting funny --- Joe defending the Evangelists who are world renowed proselytisers and self-declared 'soul-harvesters' and attacks the VHP calling them violent proselytisers.

'Pot calling the kettle black'.

Perhaps the neutral stance changes when it comes to one's own faith.

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

'Kashmir genocide like Bosnia'​

Published: December 09, 2010

WASHINGTON (Agencies) – WikiLeaks revealed that a cable sent from a US Mission in India termed former Indian Army Chief General Deepak Kapoor an incompetent combat leader and rather a geek. His war doctrine, suggesting eliminating China and Pakistan in a simultaneous war front was termed ‘much far from reality’.

Another cable indicates that Gen Kapoor was dubbed as a General who was least bothered about security challenges to the country but was more concerned about making personal assets and strengthening his own cult in the army. The cable also suggested that a tug of war between Kapoor and the current Indian Army Chief had divided the Indian army into two groups. Yet another cable suggested that the current Army Chief of Indian General VK Singh was having an aggressive approach and believes that ‘offence is the best defence’. General Singh has also been described as ‘Pakistan, China centric’, with an added aggression towards China.

The cable mentioned General Singh as an egotist, self-obsessed, petulant and idiosyncratic General, a braggadocio and a show-off, who has been disliked (and barely tolerated) by all his subordinates. An earlier cable described Indian Army in gross human rights violations in Indian Held part of Jammu and Kashmir while some Lt-Gen HS Panag, the then GOC-in-Chief of the Northern Command of the Indian Army was equated with General Milosevic of Bosnia with regard to butchering Muslims through war crimes.

The cable urged Washington to secretly divert UN attention towards the genocide of innocent civilians in Held Kashmir on the hands of Indian Army and also suggested that US should avoid holding any joint drill with Indian army until it stops inhuman activities in Kashmir. The cable termed one Lt-Col AK Mathur as “Devil’s Advocate” at Srinagar.

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