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Kashmir civilian deaths: Locals say ‘indiscriminate’ firing by forces led to high casualties

And does those who throw innocents from choppers live qualify to be Cowards ??? If not, I will take your comment as a compliment. :lol::lol::lol:

Let's continue this conversation face to face, let's see if you got balls.
 
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Killing civilians will only increase the resistance movement in the valley .
 
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Stone pelters not some random emotional civilians. These are professionally trained to act as a cover and protect the armed militants.
Explain me, how come "Professionally trained" stone pelters stand against "Professionally trained" police force with lethal force, helmets and protective gear, supported by water cannons, gas and police vehicles, police copters, tasers and the whole nine yard!

Either your police forces are incompetent or there is something else going on here. Police most of the times deal with professional criminals like drug dealers and gang members. Are you telling me that these stone pelters are better equipped and trained and funded than drug lords of Mexico?
 
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Death to terrorist Indian Army . How many innocent Kashmiri will you kill ?
Kashmir banay ga Pakistan.

Well whoever comes in way of army during operations they are inviting risk themselves, irrespective of their religion or nationality. And that's the sad truth. And India and Indian army is not an exception. :(

Why don't you better ask about the justice for the 14 innocent souls who got killed during 2014 Model town shooting in Pakistan to begin with. I bet they do diserve the right to justice like any other Kashmiri. :azn::azn::azn:
 
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Explain me, how come "Professionally trained" stone pelters stand against "Professionally trained" police force with lethal force, helmets and protective gear, supported by water cannons, gas and police vehicles, police copters, tasers and the whole nine yard!

Either your police forces are incompetent or there is something else going on here.

The police and their families live and have to live in Kashmir. Many are afraid of taking tough actions not because they are not trained or lack equipment but because of the risk to their families and themselves.

On the other hand central forces like CISF and Army do not have similar issues.

Deputy superintendent of police Mohammed Ayub Pandith was lynched to make an example and send a message to other police officers.

Kashmir: Senior police officer lynched by mob near Jamia Masjid in Srinagar
The body of deputy superintendent of police Mohammed Ayub Pandith, who was working in the security wing of Jammu and Kashmir police, was recovered on Friday morning from outside the mosque.

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A senior police officer was lynched by a mob outside Srinagar’s main mosque on Islam’s holiest night, officials said on Friday, a rare such killing of security personnel in three decades of militant violence in Kashmir.

Officials identified the officer as Mohammed Ayub Pandith, 57, a deputy superintendent working in the security wing of state police.

Jammu and Kashmir’s police chief SP Vaid said the officer was on duty late Thursday near the Jamia Masjid where thousands of people had gathered for night-long congregational prayers at the mosque led by separatist Hurriyat leader Mirwaiz Umar Farooq.

Reports said the officer, who was in civilian clothes, was taking photos on his cellphone when he was confronted by a a few people. The officer panicked, drew out his pistol and fired, injuring three civilians that led to the lynching, the reports added.

Another report said he was coming out of the mosque after his prayers when he was attacked.

“Initial investigation revealed that there was an altercation and the officer fired to get away from the mob. He was, however, overpowered and killed...,” Vaid told HT. The officer’s service revolver is missing.

Police said they have arrested two people over the killing and identified another.


— J&K Police (@JmuKmrPolice) June 23, 2017
The DSP’s lynching came weeks after a Kashmiri army officer was killed by militants. Security experts believe the two incidents could lead to a push back by Kashmiris against insurgents and weaken public support to militants across the valley.

Police often face civilian anger during street protests when stone-pelting civilians target security forces. In recent months, many policemen have been killed and their homes ransacked by suspected militants in a warning to local police officials to stop participating in counterinsurgency operations.

Six policemen including an officer were killed in an militant ambush earlier this month.

More than 1,500 police personnel have been killed in the valley since insurgency broke out in 1989.

Family members of Pandith reacted with anger and disbelief.

“Is this the azadi we are fighting for that we have started lynching people? What shall we do with such azadi?” one his sisters-in-law said, referring to an Urdu word meaning freedom and frequently used by militants and separatists.

The slain officer is survived by his wife and two teenage children; his daughter is studying MBBS in Bangladesh.

The lynching occurred during the celebrations of Laylat al Qadr, or night of power, which commemorates the night the Quran is believed to have been revealed to the Prophet Muhammad.

Week after cops’ killing, over 20 SHOs get bulletproof vehicles in Kashmir
In 1998, more than 20 Kashmiri Pandits were killed by militants on the same occasion.

It had evoked widespread condemnation like Thursday’s incident.

Chief minister Mehbooba Mufti described the lynching as “shameful” but warned people not to test the patience of police.

“Jammu and Kashmir police are showing restraint because they are dealing with their own people. But the day their restraint is breached, it will become difficult…I appeal to the people, there is still time…if the police starts giving a befitting reply…,” the chief minister said.

Congress president Rahul Gandhi, in a tweet, termed the lynching as “horrific” and said it marked a new low in the state.

Kashmir’s chief cleric Mirwaiz Umar Farooq denied allegations that he was present at the mosque when the incident happened.

“We cannot allow state brutality to which we are subject to each day...snatch our humanity and values. What will be difference between them and us then?” said Mirwaiz, who is often accused of giving provocative speeches during Friday sermons.

The incident comes in the backdrop of mounting tensions in the valley that has seen violent clashes between police and civilians following several incidents of alleged human rights violations, including tying a Kashmiri man to an army jeep.

First Published: Jun 23, 2017 08:35 IST


https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...in-nowhatta/story-zFIisCu2SnqGMSqt4ktWwO.html
 
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IS THIS REAL?

ARMED FORCES KILLING CIVILIANS?

IN INDIA OF ALL PLACES???

This can't be happening! If it is then SHAME ON ARMED FORCES AND THE NATION WHO ORDERS SUCH!

14 dead. 2014 Model Town Firing, does that ring a bell?? :lol::lol::lol:
 
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14 dead. 2014 Model Town Firing, does that ring a bell?? :lol::lol::lol:
Are you boasting that 14 people were shot in 2014 in India? Sorry, I don't follow you? I don't know what this Model Town is.
 
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Private message me

We will just talk when we meet obviously. No need to be afraid.

Well you are the one desperate, so I guess you can also do that. Why do you want me to PM you??? LOL :o:



You from London?
Not exactly I'm from Belfast, but in Bangalore for last couple of years. Why ?? :-)

Are you boasting that 14 people were shot in 2014 in India? Sorry, I don't follow you? I don't know what this Model Town is.

Well Google or Bing are your friends. :-)
 
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The police and their families live and have to live in Kashmir. Many are afraid of taking tough actions not because they are not trained or lack equipment but because of the risk to their families and themselves.

On the other hand central forces like CISF and Army do not have similar issues.
Isn't that true world over? Police do not take fatal action unless needed because they are civilians. Its true world over. What I am not still able to understand is how come law enforcement has become so crippled that they are not even able to enforce law. I know the Kashmir conflict but its between India and Pakistan. What I find rather weird to understand is how come civilians are being attacked by their own army and no one is raising a single brow.

Well Google or Bing are your friends. :-)
Okay it is something that happened in Pakistan but how is it relevant to what is happening in India. Or are you implying if a shootout happens in Pakistan then Army should attack civilians in India. Sorry you lost me there.
 
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Well you are the one desperate, so I guess you can also do that. Why do you want me to PM you??? LOL :o:




Not exactly I'm from Belfast, but in Bangalore for last couple of years. Why ?? :-)



Well Google or Bing are your friends. :-)

Just as I thought, another internet coward. I'll see your kind on the battlefield soon enough.
 
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