Kargil martyr Saurabh Kalia's torture: Violations by Pakistan unacceptable

[arp2041]

क्षमा, दया, तप, त्याग, मनोबल
सबका लिया सहारा
पर नर व्याघ सुयोधन तुमसे
कहो कहाँ कब हारा?

Kshama, daya, tap, tyaag, manobal
Sabka liya sahara
Par nar vyagh Suyodhan tumse
Kaho kahan kab haara?

Mercy, resolve, tact, tolerance
You've tried everything and some
But o my king of men
When did Suyodhan succumb?

क्षमाशील हो ॠपु-सक्षम
तुम हुये विनीत जितना ही
दुष्ट कौरवों ने तुमको
कायर समझा उतना ही

Kshamasheel ho rrpu-saksham
Tum huye vineet jitna hi
Dusht Kauravon ne tumko
Kaayar samjha utna hi

The more forgiving you were
In your humane compassion
The more these rouge Kauravas
Pegged you as cowardly ashen

अत्याचार सहन करने का
कुफल यही होता है
पौरुष का आतंक मनुज
कोमल होकर खोता है

Atyachar sahan karne ka
Kufal yahi hota hai
Paurush ka aatank manuj
Komal hokar khota hai

This is the consequence
Of tolerating atrocities
The awe of machismo is lost
When one's gentle n kindly

क्षमा शोभती उस भुजंग को
जिसके पास गरल है
उसका क्या जो दंतहीन
विषरहित विनीत सरल है

Kshama shobhti us bhujang ko
Jiske paas garal hai
Uska kya jo dantheen
Vishrahit vineet saral hai

Forgiveness is becoming of
The serpent that's got venom
None cares for the toothless,
Poisonless, kind, gentle one

तीन दिवस तक पंथ मांगते
रघुपति सिंधु किनारे
बैठे पढते रहे छन्द
अनुनय के प्यारे प्यारे

Teen divas tak panth mangte
Raghupati sindhu kinare
Baithey padhtey rahey chhand
Anunay ke pyaare pyaare

For three days Lord Raam kept
Asking the ocean for a passage
Sitting there he petitioned
Using the sweetest words to engage

उत्तर में जब एक नाद भी
उठा नही सागर से
उठी अधीर धधक पौरुष की
आग राम के शर से

Uttar mein jab ek naad bhi
Utha nahi saagar se
Uthi adheer dhadhak paurush ki
Aag raam ke shar se

When in response there was
Not a whisper from the sea
A raging fire of endeavor
Rose from Raam's body

सिंधु देह धर त्राहि-त्राहि
करता आ गिरा शरण में
चरण पूज दासता गृहण की
बंधा मूढ़ बन्धन में

Sindhu deh dhar trahi-trahi
Karta aa gira sharan mein
Charan pooj daasta grrhan ki
Bandha moodh bandhan mein

The ocean took human-form
'N supplicated to Raam
Touched his feet, was subservient
A slave he had become

सच पूछो तो शर में ही
बसती है दीप्ति विनय की
संधिवचन सम्पूज्य उसीका
जिसमे शक्ति विजय की

Sach poochho to shar mein hi
Basti hai deepti vinay ki
Sandhivachan sampoojya usika
Jisme shakti vijay ki

Truth be told, it's in the quiver
That lies the gleam of modesty
Only his peace-talk is reputable
Who is capable of victory

सहनशीलता, क्षमा, दया को
तभी पूजता जग है
बल का दर्प चमकता उसके
पीछे जब जगमग है

Sahansheelta, kshama, daya ko
Tabhi poojta jag hai
Bal ka darp chamakta uskey
Peechhey jab jagmag hai

Tolerance, forgiveness and clemency
Are respected by the world
Only when the glow of strength
From behind them is unfurled

chalo bhaiyo thread khatm..........ab yahan pe Aunty ka pravachan chalega

 

[KRAIT]

Dharm badal gaya par andar ka Hindu nahin gaya.....

 

[janon]

They must have certainly moved planet, for else they should remember the taste of own medicine.

Pak prisoners tell horrific tales of torture, humiliation | The Nation

Has nothing to do with my reply. You made a mistake in posting that off topic news item about "martyr" and paramilitary. Just admit that and move on.

 

[Alphacharlie]

Yup like you got concrete proof they were Pak army soldiers-

YOU F.U.C.K.I.N.G LIAR - have some respect!!

 

[ajtr]

[9:13-14] Would you not fight people who violated their treaties, tried to banish the messenger, and they are the ones who started the war in the first place? Are you afraid of them? GOD is the One you are supposed to fear, if you are believers. You shall fight them, for GOD will punish them at your hands, humiliate them, grant you victory over them, and cool the chests of the believers.

 

[KRAIT]

Jai Aunty ki....We need religious section on PDF too. After all many things are allowed on PDF.

 

[mjnaushad]

Saurabh Kalia was tortured And Khalid Mehmood died a natural death........ so true

 

[arp2041]

[9:13-14] Would you not fight people who violated their treaties, tried to banish the messenger, and they are the ones who started the war in the first place? Are you afraid of them? GOD is the One you are supposed to fear, if you are believers. You shall fight them, for GOD will punish them at your hands, humiliate them, grant you victory over them, and cool the chests of the believers.

 

[JonAsad]

Nope, NO, not accepting this. "sh!t happens"??!! This is no kind of excuse. Do you think this would make a valid defence in a court of law- "Judge, I know I brutally killed all those children but, you know, sh!t happens!". It was the PA that chose to mix in with the Mujahideens as such the actions of them are the actions of the PA by extension. We have no way of validating you
claims as Pakistan never acknowledged the exact make-up of the invading forces and refused to take the bodies of the slain.



Two wrongs don't make a right. The Indian military will act with professionalism, what everyone else does is not in their control. Why should India sink to their level?

Well i did say sh!t happens in war- although you with history of brutal torture of pakistani prisoners in peace time have no effin right to talk about mistreatment of prisoners of war- you reap what you sow- consider Sipahi Maqbol before opening up on human rights or geneva sh!t-

Like i said before- a soldiers died for his country during war- A father should have known better what to except of his soldiers son's fate in case of a War- it should be an honor for the father that his son died for the country- Stop insulting his son and your supposed hero by dragging him unnecessarily-

 

[Abingdonboy]

In war sh!t happens- i bet those so called soldiers were mujahideens-

[9:13-14] Would you not fight people who violated their treaties, tried to banish the messenger, and they are the ones who started the war in the first place? Are you afraid of them? GOD is the One you are supposed to fear, if you are believers. You shall fight them, for GOD will punish them at your hands, humiliate them, grant you victory over them, and cool the chests of the believers.

And people wonder how young Pakistanis/Muslims get brainwashed. Take quotes out of context to suit your own needs, this is pathetic and insulting to your entire religion. You can use individual Bible/Koran quotes to justify just about any action from rape to genocide. One must read each book/quote in context.

 

[mjnaushad]

Its funny how a country which kills cricket fans talks about violations

 

[Abingdonboy]

In war sh!t happens- i bet those so called soldiers were mujahideens-

[9:13-14] Would you not fight people who violated their treaties, tried to banish the messenger, and they are the ones who started the war in the first place? Are you afraid of them? GOD is the One you are supposed to fear, if you are believers. You shall fight them, for GOD will punish them at your hands, humiliate them, grant you victory over them, and cool the chests of the believers.

And people wonder how young Pakistanis/Muslims get brainwashed. Take quotes out of context to suit your own needs, this is pathetic and insulting to your entire religion. You can use individual Bible/Koran quotes to justify just about any action from rape to genocide. One must read each book/quote in context.

 

[Abingdonboy]

In war sh!t happens- i bet those so called soldiers were mujahideens-

Well i did say sh!t happens in war- although you with history of brutal torture of pakistani prisoners in peace time have no effin right to talk about mistreatment of prisoners of war- you reap what you sow- consider Sipahi Maqbol before opening up on human rights or geneva sh!t-

Like i said before- a soldiers died for his country during war- A father should have known better what to except of his soldiers son's fate in case of a War- it should be an honor for the father that his son died for the country- Stop insulting his son and your supposed hero by dragging him unnecessarily-

Your serious? The father should be proud his son had the most horrible treatment inflicted on him before he was killed?? You are truly beyond reproach if you honestly believe this.

 

[KRAIT]

Well i did say sh!t happens in war- although you with history of brutal torture of pakistani prisoners in peace time have no effin right to talk about mistreatment of prisoners of war- you reap what you sow- consider Sipahi Maqbol before opening up on human rights or geneva sh!t-
Like i said before- a soldiers died for his country during war- A father should have known better what to except of his soldiers son's fate in case of a War- it should be an honor for the father that his son died for the country- Stop insulting his son and your supposed hero by dragging him unnecessarily-

So if someone mistreated Pakistani soldier than you take revenge by mistreating , torturing Indian soldiers ? The father is proud of his son and he understand every bit of war but his objection is mistreatment of POW. Don't tell what his father should have known.

He is a father and he wants justice for his son who was tortured to death. What's wrong with it ? Isn't it right of any family to get justice for their brace deceased soldiers ?

How can you justify one cruel act by another ? Should we allow these type of acts done by our own soldiers ?

Jews get slaughtered in WW2 and now if they are aggressive in their survival then why do you object it ? Hope you tell every one on this thread who speak against Israel.

Its war and sh!t happens.

Its funny how a country which kills cricket fans talks about violations

Its funny how killer of a judge is showered by flowers by lawyers even when judge stood up against wrong case of blasphemy. We are expecting right thing from wrong people. End of the story.

 

[Windjammer]

Has nothing to do with my reply. You made a mistake in posting that off topic news item about "martyr" and paramilitary. Just admit that and move on.

My reply is very much in context with the topic at hand. !!