JF-17B Updates, News & Discussion

[air marshal]

 

[Trailer23]

I think PAF should acquire some 50-60 M-346 for LIFT/AJT. I guess PAF is also interested in acquiring some 50 L-15s as well. M-346 & L-15 will be a good addition to CSS for LIFT/AJT.

Lets say the PAF acquires these 50-60 M-346...

Do you have any idea what's the fly away price tag?
USD $25 Million!!!

Yeah, its a whole lot better than the M-345, but do you honestly think the PAF would buy those even if it were a serious contender to replace the K-8's.

On the flip side the Hongdu L-15 is valued around a mere $ USD 10-15 Million [depending on the add-ons].

I don't see PAF giving up on the K-8's anytime in the near future, which also happen to be made by Hongdu.

 

[Incog_nito]

But why we second LIfT/AJT?

LIFT/AJT are used before OCU (Operational Conversion Unit) i.e F-16B & JF-17B.

Let's hope PAF will make a purchase of M-346.

Lets say the PAF acquires these 50-60 M-346...

Do you have any idea what's the fly away price tag?
USD $25 Million!!!

Yeah, its a whole lot better than the M-345, but do you honestly think the PAF would buy those even if it were a serious contender to replace the K-8's.

On the flip side the Hongdu L-15 is valued around a mere $ USD 10-15 Million [depending on the add-ons].

I don't see PAF giving up on the K-8's anytime in the near future, which also happen to be made by Hongdu.

The role of M-345 (is an IJT) is totally different from M-346 (is an AJT/LIFT).

M-345 can complement K-8 and cannot replace it. M-346 can add LIFT/AJT capabilities in PAF CSS and L-15 can also be a good combination to train pilots better.

 

[khanasifm]

 

[khanasifm]

As paf will have more than 200 or 10 plus sqn so there will be more than one ocu meaning at least 4-6 in each ocu and reminding one to two dual seater going to each sqn

assuming 8-12 split between two ocu that leaves 18-14 dual seater to be distributed among at least 10-12 sqdns

perhaps additional dual seater may be ordered later

 

[Windjammer]

Dual rack on the right aircraft

No those are dual bomb racks.

 

[airbus101]

which magazine is this kindly share the name please

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[khanasifm]

which magazine is this kindly share the name please

Second to None website has few issues available for download

 

[ziaulislam]

As paf will have more than 200 or 10 plus sqn so there will be more than one ocu meaning at least 4-6 in each ocu and reminding one to two dual seater going to each sqn

assuming 8-12 split between two ocu that leaves 18-14 dual seater to be distributed among at least 10-12 sqdns

perhaps additional dual seater may be ordered later

14 in ocu
Rest each squardon will have 1-2
So assuming we end up with 9 squardons we may end up with around 18+14 dual seaters ~32

 

[khanasifm]

If you go one for one sqn replacement of mirages and f7 than there is a Need of ~ 10sqdn, there are 6/7 mirage sqn and 3 pg sqn that need to be replaced

block 3current order will take pg out that leaves 6/7 mirage sqn

so total jf sqn may touch 15-17 unless a few sqn of other type is introduced

 

[Trailer23]

Thunder Bravo joins Black Panthers.

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Appears to be a screen grab from an upcoming Special on some TV Channel. The guy in the hideous purple shirt (front) kinda gave it away.

What, did he lose a bet ?

 

[khanasifm]

No those are dual bomb racks.

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if load carrying capacity of each hp has increased then why not triple ejectors racks ?

 

[Windjammer]

if load carrying capacity of each hp has increased then why not triple ejectors racks ?

I guess same reason as on F-16, the inner pylon can effect the drop tank.

 

[Nomad40]

LIFT/AJT are used before OCU (Operational Conversion Unit) i.e F-16B & JF-17B.

Let's hope PAF will make a purchase of M-346.


The role of M-345 (is an IJT) is totally different from M-346 (is an AJT/LIFT).

M-345 can complement K-8 and cannot replace it. M-346 can add LIFT/AJT capabilities in PAF CSS and L-15 can also be a good combination to train pilots better.

No not supported, PAF must find a solution with existing fleet! and there is a crazy Idea to do it IMO.

 

[GumNaam]

No those are dual bomb racks.

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it the Thunder is able to carry 20 bombs in each dual rack, any reason why it can't carry 2 SD-10s the same way given that the SD-10 is much lighter than the bomb?